[C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002

[Jon Vez]

Barb,

This is exactly the perspective we used to convince ourselves that the
in-mast furler would be okay. Although we are on the 'younger side', we
bought this boat anticipating it would be our last--so hopefully it will
keep us sailing until we can't function any longer :)
Interestingly, we were at the dealer yesterday looking at the boat and a
prospective buyer stopped by to look at the boat (again). His wife said,
'Pete is 79 and I told him if we don't get a boat with In-Mast furling, our
sailing career is over!'. They are currently owners of a Sabre that they
love (their 2nd or 3rd), but they said they thought the value proposition of
the newer style Catalina's makes sense for them...
If the dealer doesn't screw it up (an entirely different thread), looks like
Catalina has another convert....

Regards,

Jon Vez

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Uhlman
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 7:31 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002

We have Selden in-mast with vertical battens. Shortly before getting it, Bob
was talking to an older man, but probably younger than Bob, with a C350, and
Bob asked him how he liked his "in-mast.  The man replied by asking Bob if
he wanted to be sailing at 95.  Bob, of course, replied yes.  The man then
said to get in-mast.  Geriatric sailing, I call it!!  Love, it.
 
Barb Uhlman
Whisper, #1158

--- On Sun, 5/22/11, Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Date: Sunday, May 22, 2011, 4:05 PM


This is of interest as I am about to own an in-mast furler. Just curious if
these are all Charlston spars or are some of these Seldens? I'm sure it
doesn't really matter as conceptually the same issues would apply. I was
very leery of owning a boat with an in-mast furler, but it would have been
problematic ($$) to change it out. Do any of you have vertical battens?

Regards,

Jon Vez

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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dick Walker
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:51 PM
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Cc: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002

We have had the Charleston.  Spar main  furler  For 11 years and find it to
be a great assist for the 2 of us sailing however there are some procedures
that must be followed  
. 
1 if possible head into the wind
2. Do not have the main halyard too tight or too loose
3 make sure you have a tight wrap


Cheers

Dick Walker
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA
619.435.8986

On May 22, 2011, at 12:08, Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
wrote:

> FIXED IT!!!  Thanks to all for the suggestions.  The wet weather today may
be the lubricant that was my saviour.  Lessons learned:  A:  The sail wasn't
hoisted enough in that the luff bead was loose.  B:  NEVER furl without some
tension (ensuring a 'tight' furl) applied.  C:  Boom should be raised off
parallel slightly when furling (I knew this) to ensure proper furling, as
the sail isn't a perfect triangle.  Whatever our next boat is, it'll have a
'flaking' main.  I've no problem with 'externally' furling sails (like our
jib), but when they furl into a mast or boom, problems can arise (operator
or other cause) which can be difficult to correct.
> 
> Bob
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> On May 22, 2011, at 1:41 PM, wflowe3 at aim.com wrote:
> 
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>> This has probably happened to everyone who has in-mast furling. I have
had luck pulling the sail out as far as possible without breaking anything,
then re-rolling it into the mast with tension on the outhaul then  rapidly
pulling the outhaul. It may take many cycles but I have always had this work
and not damage anything. Just keep working it in and out.
>> 
>> Bill
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Sat, May 21, 2011 6:19 pm
>> Subject: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
>> 
>> 
>> All:
>> 
>> We put our sails on today.  The wind kicked up as we were securing the
>> main outhaul in preparation to furling the main, so we decided to furl
>> it with my wife on the furling line and me just holding the clew and
>> 'walking' it in, then attaching the outhaul later.  Unfortunately,
>> this apparently furled it rather loosely, so that on trying to unfurl,
>> some of the sailcloth folds on itself and binds in the gate in the
>> mast to the furler, stopping things.  I don't think it's wrapped on
>> itself beneath the outer folds.  Tried to winch it out, no good.
>> Didn't want to force it, fearing breaking the car for the outhaul on
>> the boom, or something worse.  Going to try tomorrow by attaching a
>> line to the clew and then directly to one of the jib winches, along
>> with liberal application of Sailkote along the gate.  If that fails,
>> I'll have to invoke the yard rigger.  Anyone else ever suffer this
>> folly or other such jamming?
>> 
>> Bob Seastream
>> Intuition # 906
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