[C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002

[Robert Seastream]

Going forward (next boat), IF only roller furling main was available,  
I'd opt for in boom.  That way if it jams (and you're in a blow), you  
can still drop the main and secure it externally to the boom.  If in  
mast jams, the best you can do is shove the foot of the sail towards  
the mast and secure it as best you can.  Previously I said I'd like to  
have an 'old school' flaking main.  However, if I want to keep sailing  
later in life (when I'm less physically able), in boom might be the  
solution on our next boat.

Bob

On May 23, 2011, at 9:54 AM, wflowe3 at aim.com wrote:

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> I have the Selden system with vertical battens. It works great, much  
> better than the US Spar dual line system on my last boat  
> (Beneteau).  I've  been using in-mast for the past 9 years and I  
> wouldn't get a boat without it. I'm obviously not the only one who  
> feels that way because in-mast is now standard on all new 355s and  
> 375s.  Last Saturday after a very gusty shifty day on the lake, dock  
> mates were sitting around enjoying well deserved cocktails and  
> relaxing. Very suddenly, the clouds turned black, the temperature  
> dropped and, for we in tornado alley who know what's coming, went to  
> work getting sail ties secured and sail covers on before the rain  
> and wind really hit.  Those of us with in-mast enjoyed watching them  
> scurry around and voiced support as we continued with our relaxing  
> and cocktails.
>
> Yet another advantage of in-mast furling.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Vez <jonvez at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Sun, May 22, 2011 4:05 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
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>
> This is of interest as I am about to own an in-mast furler. Just  
> curious if
> these are all Charlston spars or are some of these Seldens? I'm sure  
> it
> doesn't really matter as conceptually the same issues would apply. I  
> was
> very leery of owning a boat with an in-mast furler, but it would  
> have been
> problematic ($$) to change it out. Do any of you have vertical  
> battens?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Vez
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dick  
> Walker
> Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2011 4:51 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Cc: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
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> We have had the Charleston.  Spar main  furler  For 11 years and  
> find it to
> be a great assist for the 2 of us sailing however there are some  
> procedures
> that must be followed
> .
> 1 if possible head into the wind
> 2. Do not have the main halyard too tight or too loose
> 3 make sure you have a tight wrap
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Dick Walker
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA
> 619.435.8986
>
> On May 22, 2011, at 12:08, Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net 
> >
> wrote:
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>> FIXED IT!!!  Thanks to all for the suggestions.  The wet weather  
>> today may
> be the lubricant that was my saviour.  Lessons learned:  A:  The  
> sail wasn't
> hoisted enough in that the luff bead was loose.  B:  NEVER furl  
> without some
> tension (ensuring a 'tight' furl) applied.  C:  Boom should be  
> raised off
> parallel slightly when furling (I knew this) to ensure proper  
> furling, as
> the sail isn't a perfect triangle.  Whatever our next boat is, it'll  
> have a
> 'flaking' main.  I've no problem with 'externally' furling sails  
> (like our
> jib), but when they furl into a mast or boom, problems can arise  
> (operator
> or other cause) which can be difficult to correct.
>>
>> Bob
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>>
>> On May 22, 2011, at 1:41 PM, wflowe3 at aim.com wrote:
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>>>
>>> This has probably happened to everyone who has in-mast furling. I  
>>> have
> had luck pulling the sail out as far as possible without breaking  
> anything,
> then re-rolling it into the mast with tension on the outhaul then   
> rapidly
> pulling the outhaul. It may take many cycles but I have always had  
> this work
> and not damage anything. Just keep working it in and out.
>>>
>>> Bill
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, May 21, 2011 6:19 pm
>>> Subject: [C320-list] New topic...jammed main roller furler on 2002
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>>>
>>> All:
>>>
>>> We put our sails on today.  The wind kicked up as we were securing  
>>> the
>>> main outhaul in preparation to furling the main, so we decided to  
>>> furl
>>> it with my wife on the furling line and me just holding the clew and
>>> 'walking' it in, then attaching the outhaul later.  Unfortunately,
>>> this apparently furled it rather loosely, so that on trying to  
>>> unfurl,
>>> some of the sailcloth folds on itself and binds in the gate in the
>>> mast to the furler, stopping things.  I don't think it's wrapped on
>>> itself beneath the outer folds.  Tried to winch it out, no good.
>>> Didn't want to force it, fearing breaking the car for the outhaul on
>>> the boom, or something worse.  Going to try tomorrow by attaching a
>>> line to the clew and then directly to one of the jib winches, along
>>> with liberal application of Sailkote along the gate.  If that fails,
>>> I'll have to invoke the yard rigger.  Anyone else ever suffer this
>>> folly or other such jamming?
>>>
>>> Bob Seastream
>>> Intuition # 906
>>>
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