[C320-list] easy way to winterize the raw water and conform toABYC code?

JJ Morrison sail-ability at sympatico.ca
Fri Oct 21 08:05:24 PDT 2011


i don't like putting plumbers antifreeze into the engine as it does not have any inhibitors in it. I put propylene glycol in the engine when the boat is on the hard and catch the overflow in a bucket and dispose of it correctly. I'm also investigating draining the raw water system and leaving the heat exchanger dry during the winter. Anyone do this?CheersJohnM1999#574 
 > From: cdescher at cedtulsa.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:37:14 -0500
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] easy way to winterize the raw water and conform	toABYC code?
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> I set the jugs on the cover over the water tank and run the hose from the
> jug to the T valve.  I start the engine, so raw water is going from the lake
> through the engine.  Then I switch the T valve from raw water to the jug,
> and it doesn't lose prime.  If I switch quickly to the second jug it still
> doesn't lose prime.  After I start the second jug, I go back to the cockpit,
> look over the back, see pink stuff coming out and shut off the engine.  For
> me, it's an easy one man job.  When I bought the boat, this was already
> installed.  Now I'm a little concerned about what Jeff mentioned on the
> brass fitting.  I try to remember to close my raw water through hull when I
> leave the boat, so maybe I shouldn't worry too much.
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> Chris,
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> Does the water pump pick up prime from the jugs in the cabin or do you have
> to elevate the jugs (to the cockpit say) and fill the hose to get the
> antifreeze started through the pump?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Descher <cdescher at cedtulsa.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thu, Oct 20, 2011 3:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] easy way to winterize the raw water and conform
> toABYC code?
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> I think that I've got something like what you're describing.  It's a brass T
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> valve installed between the through hull and the engine.  In one position,
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> it lets raw water pass through.  In the other position I can feed
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> antifreeze.  When I want to winterize,  I take a couple of gallon jugs of
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> antifreeze to the aft cabin.  Then I put one end of a 6' section of vinyl
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> tube on the empty hose barb of the T valve and the other end of the hose
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> goes in the antifreeze jug.  I start the engine, turn the T valve to the
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> antifreeze position, and by the time I've run two gallons of antifreeze
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> through, it's done.  I can assemble, winterize, and disassemble in well
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> under five minutes.  This allows me to easily use the boat throughout the
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> winter with minimal hassle.  I don't know about ABYC code, but it works.
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> Chris Descher
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> #500
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> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Alan
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> Goodman
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> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 3:26 PM
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> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
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> Subject: [C320-list] easy way to winterwise the raw water and conform
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> toABYC code?
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> I recently was looking through the Forespar catalog
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> (http://www.forespar.com/pdf/M20-marelon-plumbing-product-chart.pdf) for
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> head vent parts, and while doing so a thought occurred to me.  I have been
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> seeking a permanent way to provide easy addition of antifreeze to flush the
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> raw water side of the engine.  I looked at adding a Prestone radiator flush
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> kit into the water supply hose after the raw water intake seacock, but I was
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> concerned about (i) inability to properly double clamp the hose as per ABYC
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> standards for below water line fittings, (ii) whether it was wise to trust a
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> screw on type cap to seal the flush kit (leaks or failure would be very bad
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> !!), (iii) would I pass a marine survey when I sell the boat in the future
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> or (iv) would I jepordize my insurance coverage in the event the
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> 'non-marine' part failed and flooded the boat.  A standard Forespar 'Y
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> valve' (such as part number 902001 MF 853 found at
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> http://www.forespar.com/pdf/M20-marelon-plumbing-product-chart.pdf) would
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> provide a two source supply to the raw water system and meet all ABYC
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> requirements.  One leg provides fresh water from the thru-hull and the other
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> leg of the Y valve allows the antifreeze supply line to be directly plumbed
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> into the raw water system.  Which supply stream (either raw water or
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> anti-freeze) proceeds through the strainer and into the engine block is
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> controlled by appropriate positioning of the Y valve handle.  Thoughts?
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> Alan Hull 67 Holland MI
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