[C320-list] AC Install Advice
Ben Cares
bcares at caresphotoarts.com
Mon Jul 30 09:50:20 PDT 2012
Rick,
I'm going for starboard aft locker (I think). Ordering unit today. Will try
dry fitting first. I too will post some photos when I'm done. Ought to be
an experience. We've had our 320 for 5 years also. Only little issues so
far.
Ben #35
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Bryan Morton <bryanmorton at gmail.com>wrote:
> Rick, Ben, Tony, Paul
>
> Thanks for the responses on the AC installation. I think I am going to go
> with the installation in the port locker in front of the helm. I start
> cutting holes on Saturday!
>
> Rick, would you have any photos of you installation? Once I am done I
> will try to post something.
>
> Also Ben and Tony it looks like between the three of us we have hulls #30,
> #32 and #35. We have had our 320 for five years now and I can report no
> major issues during that time.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Bryan #32
>
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> > 1. Re: AC Install Advice (Rick Sulewski)
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> > 3. Re: AC Install Advice (Paul Rickman)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:18:45 -0400
> > From: "Rick Sulewski" <rsulewski at bex.net>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
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> > The port locker ( in front of the helm) is the simplest and most direct
> > plan
> > for installing the AC/Heat unit. The electrical panel is on the portside
> > and
> > running water intake (under the aft berth) and discharge line (portside
> > hull
> > about 12 inches above the waterline) are easy to access. The loss of
> > storage
> > space is a trade-off and the lowest level storage items were often items
> we
> > could have left in the dock box or garage. We crafted a shelf above the
> AC
> > unit and that facilitated continued use of the port locker for storage.
> The
> > unit was installed just aft of the bread box but aligned so the air inlet
> > was at our aft berth feet area and the AC discharge was above the bread
> > box.
> > The velocity of the air flow is very strong when the fan is on higher
> > settings and our unit has a variable speed discharge program that slows
> > down
> > the velocity as the temperature nears the target setting.
> >
> > The issue with the unit being installed above the fuel tank in the
> > starboard
> > aft corner locker is the AC unit will be aligned to your pillow area and
> > the
> > noise has been reported to be louder there than when located in the port
> > storage locker. Also, the ducting design presents more work.
> >
> > Rick
> > My-Ria #277
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
> Morton
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 2:12 PM
> > To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> > Subject: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
> >
> > I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have advice
> on
> > the best way to install AC on the 320. We are going to install a 16000
> BTU
> > unit next week. I have read several posts saying that the best place to
> > install the unit is in the "aft port locker" but I am unclear if this
> means
> > in the Lazarette (in front of the wheel) or the space under the aft port
> > seat (behind the wheel) where the Adler Barbour fridge compressor is
> > installed. It would seem to me that an installation in the Lazarette
> would
> > make for a shorter and more direct routing of a cooling duct to a salon
> > vent
> > near the bread box but the plumbing would be more difficult. Space in
> the
> > Lazarette would also be sacrificed. Installation under the aft port seat
> > would be easier from an air return and plumbing point of view but would
> > mean
> > a longer and less direct cooling duct run to the salon. This in theory
> > would mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging into the
> > salon. Maybe I am over thinking this. I also read that the factory
> > installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard locker (like
> in
> > the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the C320 Association web
> > site). This seems more difficult than the other two options. If anyone
> > has
> > some photos of their installation they would be greatly appreciated as I
> am
> > struggling to visualize how this going to go.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:43:29 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: amshd2 at aol.com
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
> > Message-ID: <8CF3A473B06CEFB-8AC-22774 at webmail-m047.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > My AC unit (16000 BTU) is mounted in the V Berth and it fits fine. The
> > 16000 btu unit does fine here on the Chesapeake in the summer. I have
> 3
> > vents 1 in the V berth 4x8 rectangle, 1 4in round on port side under the
> > table and 1 4 in round in the aft cabin. Problem I have is that the
> large
> > 4x8 puts out a lot of air and you freeze in the v berth at night and it
> > takes a long time to cool aft cabin.
> >
> > If I did it over again I would keep main unit in V Berth but reconfigure
> > vents. I did not put the unit in the port locker because my
> > boat already had the famous 320 port list and I did not want to make it
> > worse.
> >
> > Our boats are really close close in age I have hull #30 .
> >
> > Tony
> > #30
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 2:35 pm
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
> >
> >
> > Bryan:
> > 'm considering all the options you mention plus one other . . . under the
> > Berth aft of the water tank (have to sacrifice those two little drawers
> > hich we never use anyway). Runs are still long but not as long as
> > tarboard locker location. And you can hit head and aft cabin once you get
> > hrough main salon. Just a thought.
> > en
> > 35
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Bryan Morton <bryanmorton at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have
> advice
> > on
> > the best way to install AC on the 320. We are going to install a 16000
> > BTU
> > unit next week. I have read several posts saying that the best place to
> > install the unit is in the ?aft port locker? but I am unclear if this
> > means
> > in the Lazarette (in front of the wheel) or the space under the aft port
> > seat (behind the wheel) where the Adler Barbour fridge compressor is
> > installed. It would seem to me that an installation in the Lazarette
> > would
> > make for a shorter and more direct routing of a cooling duct to a salon
> > vent near the bread box but the plumbing would be more difficult. Space
> > in
> > the Lazarette would also be sacrificed. Installation under the aft port
> > seat would be easier from an air return and plumbing point of view but
> > would mean a longer and less direct cooling duct run to the salon. This
> > in
> > theory would mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging
> into
> > the salon. Maybe I am over thinking this. I also read that the factory
> > installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard locker (like
> in
> > the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the C320 Association web
> > site). This seems more difficult than the other two options. If anyone
> > has some photos of their installation they would be greatly appreciated
> as
> > I am struggling to visualize how this going to go.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
> >
> >
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> > 02 Clinton Court
> > eadville, PA 16335
> > 814.333.2990
> > 14.720.5260 Cell
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
> > To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
> > Message-ID:
> > <1343418808.86361.YahooMailNeo at web84515.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > Ok, I'll chime in.
> > ?
> > My 16000 BTU is installed in the aft Starboard locker with one 8 K
> > condenser in the v-birth
> > Port locker and one 8 K condenser in the aft cabin Starboard locker along
> > with the compressor.
> > Four inch outputs in the aft, head and v-birth and one 8 inch in the
> > saloon. Return air is with
> > the condensers and they are about 10 inch.? These were already installed
> > when I bought the
> > boat used in 2004. Cools/heats right nicely.
> > ?
> > Paul
> > Affinity 657
> > Bay Bridge Marina
> > Chesapeake Bay, Maryland
> > ?
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "amshd2 at aol.com" <amshd2 at aol.com>
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
> >
> >
> > Ben
> >
> > My AC unit (16000 BTU)? is mounted in the V Berth and it fits fine. The
> > 16000 btu unit does fine here on the Chesapeake in the summer.? ? I have
> 3
> > vents 1 in the V berth? 4x8 rectangle, 1 4in round on port side under the
> > table and 1 4 in round in the aft cabin.? Problem I have is that the
> large
> > 4x8 puts out a lot of air and you freeze in the v berth at night and it
> > takes a long time to cool aft cabin.?
> >
> > If I did it over again I would keep main unit in V Berth but reconfigure
> > vents. I did not put the unit in the port locker because my
> > boat already had the famous 320 port list and I did not want to make it
> > worse.
> >
> > Our boats are really close close in age I have hull #30 .
> >
> > ? Tony
> > #30
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 2:35 pm
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
> >
> >
> > Bryan:
> > 'm considering all the options you mention plus one other . . . under the
> > Berth aft of the water tank (have to sacrifice those two little drawers
> > hich we never use anyway). Runs are still long but not as long as
> > tarboard locker location. And you can hit head and aft cabin once you get
> > hrough main salon. Just a thought.
> > en
> > 35
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Bryan Morton <bryanmorton at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have
> advice
> > on
> > the best way to install AC on the 320.? We are going to install a 16000
> BTU
> > unit next week. I have read several posts saying that the best place to
> > install the unit is in the ?aft port locker? but I am unclear if this
> means
> > in the Lazarette (in front of the wheel) or the space under the aft port
> > seat (behind the wheel) where the Adler Barbour fridge compressor is
> > installed.? It would seem to me that an installation in the Lazarette
> would
> > make for a shorter and more direct routing of a cooling duct to a salon
> > vent near the bread box but the plumbing would be more difficult.? Space
> in
> > the Lazarette would also be sacrificed.? Installation under the aft port
> > seat would be easier from an air return and plumbing point of view but
> > would mean a longer and less direct cooling duct run to the salon.? This
> in
> > theory would mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging
> into
> > the salon.? Maybe I am over thinking this.? I also read that the factory
> > installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard locker (like
> in
> > the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the C320 Association web
> > site).? This seems more difficult than the other two options.? If anyone
> > has some photos of their installation they would be greatly appreciated
> as
> > I am struggling to visualize how this going to go.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> > Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
> >
> >
> > --
> > hotoGraphic Arts
> > 02 Clinton Court
> > eadville, PA? 16335
> > 814.333.2990
> > 14.720.5260 Cell
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:17:02 -0700
> > From: Cary Dennis Lowe <cdlowe1769 at sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Micron 66 Bottom Paint
> > Message-ID: <8F81D70B-195C-415C-9907-C75B4AE58EC9 at sbcglobal.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Yes but they are cheep!
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dennis - you left out one small detail. Did you have to by the drinks
> > > after? Pat, 801
> >
> >
> > End of C320-list Digest, Vol 1484, Issue 1
> > ******************************************
> >
>
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