[C320-list] AC Install Advice
Bryan Morton
bryanmorton at gmail.com
Mon Jul 30 09:42:17 PDT 2012
Rick, Ben, Tony, Paul
Thanks for the responses on the AC installation. I think I am going to go
with the installation in the port locker in front of the helm. I start
cutting holes on Saturday!
Rick, would you have any photos of you installation? Once I am done I
will try to post something.
Also Ben and Tony it looks like between the three of us we have hulls #30,
#32 and #35. We have had our 320 for five years now and I can report no
major issues during that time.
Thanks again
Bryan #32
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> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:18:45 -0400
> From: "Rick Sulewski" <rsulewski at bex.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
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> The port locker ( in front of the helm) is the simplest and most direct
> plan
> for installing the AC/Heat unit. The electrical panel is on the portside
> and
> running water intake (under the aft berth) and discharge line (portside
> hull
> about 12 inches above the waterline) are easy to access. The loss of
> storage
> space is a trade-off and the lowest level storage items were often items we
> could have left in the dock box or garage. We crafted a shelf above the AC
> unit and that facilitated continued use of the port locker for storage. The
> unit was installed just aft of the bread box but aligned so the air inlet
> was at our aft berth feet area and the AC discharge was above the bread
> box.
> The velocity of the air flow is very strong when the fan is on higher
> settings and our unit has a variable speed discharge program that slows
> down
> the velocity as the temperature nears the target setting.
>
> The issue with the unit being installed above the fuel tank in the
> starboard
> aft corner locker is the AC unit will be aligned to your pillow area and
> the
> noise has been reported to be louder there than when located in the port
> storage locker. Also, the ducting design presents more work.
>
> Rick
> My-Ria #277
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Morton
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 2:12 PM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
>
> I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have advice on
> the best way to install AC on the 320. We are going to install a 16000 BTU
> unit next week. I have read several posts saying that the best place to
> install the unit is in the "aft port locker" but I am unclear if this means
> in the Lazarette (in front of the wheel) or the space under the aft port
> seat (behind the wheel) where the Adler Barbour fridge compressor is
> installed. It would seem to me that an installation in the Lazarette would
> make for a shorter and more direct routing of a cooling duct to a salon
> vent
> near the bread box but the plumbing would be more difficult. Space in the
> Lazarette would also be sacrificed. Installation under the aft port seat
> would be easier from an air return and plumbing point of view but would
> mean
> a longer and less direct cooling duct run to the salon. This in theory
> would mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging into the
> salon. Maybe I am over thinking this. I also read that the factory
> installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard locker (like in
> the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the C320 Association web
> site). This seems more difficult than the other two options. If anyone
> has
> some photos of their installation they would be greatly appreciated as I am
> struggling to visualize how this going to go.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bryan
>
> Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:43:29 -0400 (EDT)
> From: amshd2 at aol.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
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>
> Ben
>
> My AC unit (16000 BTU) is mounted in the V Berth and it fits fine. The
> 16000 btu unit does fine here on the Chesapeake in the summer. I have 3
> vents 1 in the V berth 4x8 rectangle, 1 4in round on port side under the
> table and 1 4 in round in the aft cabin. Problem I have is that the large
> 4x8 puts out a lot of air and you freeze in the v berth at night and it
> takes a long time to cool aft cabin.
>
> If I did it over again I would keep main unit in V Berth but reconfigure
> vents. I did not put the unit in the port locker because my
> boat already had the famous 320 port list and I did not want to make it
> worse.
>
> Our boats are really close close in age I have hull #30 .
>
> Tony
> #30
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 2:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
>
>
> Bryan:
> 'm considering all the options you mention plus one other . . . under the
> Berth aft of the water tank (have to sacrifice those two little drawers
> hich we never use anyway). Runs are still long but not as long as
> tarboard locker location. And you can hit head and aft cabin once you get
> hrough main salon. Just a thought.
> en
> 35
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Bryan Morton <bryanmorton at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have advice
> on
> the best way to install AC on the 320. We are going to install a 16000
> BTU
> unit next week. I have read several posts saying that the best place to
> install the unit is in the ?aft port locker? but I am unclear if this
> means
> in the Lazarette (in front of the wheel) or the space under the aft port
> seat (behind the wheel) where the Adler Barbour fridge compressor is
> installed. It would seem to me that an installation in the Lazarette
> would
> make for a shorter and more direct routing of a cooling duct to a salon
> vent near the bread box but the plumbing would be more difficult. Space
> in
> the Lazarette would also be sacrificed. Installation under the aft port
> seat would be easier from an air return and plumbing point of view but
> would mean a longer and less direct cooling duct run to the salon. This
> in
> theory would mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging into
> the salon. Maybe I am over thinking this. I also read that the factory
> installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard locker (like in
> the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the C320 Association web
> site). This seems more difficult than the other two options. If anyone
> has some photos of their installation they would be greatly appreciated as
> I am struggling to visualize how this going to go.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bryan
>
> Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
>
>
> --
> hotoGraphic Arts
> 02 Clinton Court
> eadville, PA 16335
> 814.333.2990
> 14.720.5260 Cell
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Paul Rickman <ilove2sail at verizon.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
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> Ok, I'll chime in.
> ?
> My 16000 BTU is installed in the aft Starboard locker with one 8 K
> condenser in the v-birth
> Port locker and one 8 K condenser in the aft cabin Starboard locker along
> with the compressor.
> Four inch outputs in the aft, head and v-birth and one 8 inch in the
> saloon. Return air is with
> the condensers and they are about 10 inch.? These were already installed
> when I bought the
> boat used in 2004. Cools/heats right nicely.
> ?
> Paul
> Affinity 657
> Bay Bridge Marina
> Chesapeake Bay, Maryland
> ?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "amshd2 at aol.com" <amshd2 at aol.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
>
>
> Ben
>
> My AC unit (16000 BTU)? is mounted in the V Berth and it fits fine. The
> 16000 btu unit does fine here on the Chesapeake in the summer.? ? I have 3
> vents 1 in the V berth? 4x8 rectangle, 1 4in round on port side under the
> table and 1 4 in round in the aft cabin.? Problem I have is that the large
> 4x8 puts out a lot of air and you freeze in the v berth at night and it
> takes a long time to cool aft cabin.?
>
> If I did it over again I would keep main unit in V Berth but reconfigure
> vents. I did not put the unit in the port locker because my
> boat already had the famous 320 port list and I did not want to make it
> worse.
>
> Our boats are really close close in age I have hull #30 .
>
> ? Tony
> #30
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 2:35 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] AC Install Advice
>
>
> Bryan:
> 'm considering all the options you mention plus one other . . . under the
> Berth aft of the water tank (have to sacrifice those two little drawers
> hich we never use anyway). Runs are still long but not as long as
> tarboard locker location. And you can hit head and aft cabin once you get
> hrough main salon. Just a thought.
> en
> 35
> On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Bryan Morton <bryanmorton at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I know this topic has been brought up before but does anyone have advice
> on
> the best way to install AC on the 320.? We are going to install a 16000 BTU
> unit next week. I have read several posts saying that the best place to
> install the unit is in the ?aft port locker? but I am unclear if this means
> in the Lazarette (in front of the wheel) or the space under the aft port
> seat (behind the wheel) where the Adler Barbour fridge compressor is
> installed.? It would seem to me that an installation in the Lazarette would
> make for a shorter and more direct routing of a cooling duct to a salon
> vent near the bread box but the plumbing would be more difficult.? Space in
> the Lazarette would also be sacrificed.? Installation under the aft port
> seat would be easier from an air return and plumbing point of view but
> would mean a longer and less direct cooling duct run to the salon.? This in
> theory would mean a reduction in air velocity at the vent discharging into
> the salon.? Maybe I am over thinking this.? I also read that the factory
> installation is above the Diesel tank in the aft starboard locker (like in
> the upgrade ac article posted by Jeff Hare on the C320 Association web
> site).? This seems more difficult than the other two options.? If anyone
> has some photos of their installation they would be greatly appreciated as
> I am struggling to visualize how this going to go.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bryan
>
> Slainte Mhath (Hull 32)
>
>
> --
> hotoGraphic Arts
> 02 Clinton Court
> eadville, PA? 16335
> 814.333.2990
> 14.720.5260 Cell
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 18:17:02 -0700
> From: Cary Dennis Lowe <cdlowe1769 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Micron 66 Bottom Paint
> Message-ID: <8F81D70B-195C-415C-9907-C75B4AE58EC9 at sbcglobal.net>
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> Yes but they are cheep!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 27, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Pat Ireland <cherie320 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dennis - you left out one small detail. Did you have to by the drinks
> > after? Pat, 801
>
>
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