[C320-list] refinishing companionway stairs

[Warren Updike]

Tony, perhaps you misunderstood me.  I haven't done it; but, if I were using
polyurethane I would think a non-skid additive would be necessary.  However,
with Waterlox tung oil I've not found it necessary to add anything.  I've
never used Ultimate Sole; but, I've seen it at boat shows.  I think the
Waterlox finish is very comparable to Ultimate Sole.

As I wrote this I started to have questions of my own, so I called a local
Watercraft store where they sell this stuff.  Here is what they told me:
Waterlox is a modified tung oil finish and will penetrate the wood grain and
leave a hard, dry surface.  Unlike a varnish or polyurethane that is a top
coating that floes out into a super-smooth, glass like finish, Waterlox is
more like an oil finish.  The original Waterlox sealer/finish is not
suitable for exterior use.  However, they make a marine grade product that
has UV and mildew inhibitors for exterior use.  They also make a marine
grade sealer on top of which to apply the marine finish for a hard glossy
exterior finish.

I've been happy with original Waterlox on the cabin sole; but, will think
about using the marine grade on the steps as they are subject to more
weather and abuse.

Warren & Pattie Updike
1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"


-----Original Message-----
From: amshd2 at aol.com [mailto:amshd2 at aol.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:29 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] refinishing companionway stairs


I used Ultimate Sole about 5 years ago and it worked great, great anti skip
properties.  The company did go out of business but I also heard that
another company had bought the rights but have not seen anything on the
market.  If it comes back out I would highly recommend it.


I have an early model hull #30 so I have had to refinish different areas
over the last few years.  Some of the damage was beyond a light sanding.  I
found rather than heavy sanding which can buy you more work than you can
image I use a stripper and take the item down to bare wood.  I use Dad's
Stripper this stuff works great great the best stripper I have ever used. 

By going down to bare wood I was able to achieve a even finish.  This is
more work but for me it was worth it. 

I need to refinish my steps and will strip each.  Since Ultimate sole is out
of business I too am looking at the best approach.  Upon Warrens suggestion
I went to home depot and got a anti skid additive.  They did not have the
one by sackrete but had one by valspar going to test this out and see how it
works.

Tony 
 Hull # 30    







-----Original Message-----
From: jim brown <jbrown5093 at yahoo.com>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:50 am
Subject: Re: [C320-list] refinishing companionway stairs


Don't know if others have had this problem but when I sanded my steps for
efinishing I went through the original finish (or very thin layer of veneer
I'm ot sure which) in a couple of places with pretty light sanding. When I
arnished them the looked like they had measles-all blotchy and darker in
laces. I had to remove all the old finish at that point and re varnish them.

ade an easy project into a real project. They, in the end, look great but
just e careful with the initial sanding. 

im Brown

________________________________
From: Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman at cox.net>
o: C320-List at Catalina320.com
ent: Wednesday, February 6, 2013 7:58 AM
ubject: Re: [C320-list] refinishing companionway stairs

hat is correct.  One of my guys talked to a company out of NJ I think that
had ought the rights to manufacture.  Not sure why it has not resurfaced, it
erformed well and got great reviews.
ruce
Bruce Heyman
949) 289-8400
pat reynolds <lorasalum at yahoo.com> wrote:
>Ibelieve Ultimate Sole has been out of business for some time




________________________________
 From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] refinishing companionway stairs
 
I can understand that with a polyurethane an anti-skid would be needed.  I
used a tung oil product from Waterlox (www.waterlox.com) on our cabin sole
and it has not only held up very well, but is relatively slip-free when
damp.  I've been thinking about doing the ladder and will probably use
Waterlox on that too.  

I've also heard good things about Ultimate Sole for interior spaces; but,
haven't heard much lately.  Also, can't recall seeing them at the last
Annapolis Boat Show.

Warren & Pattie Updike
1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ott [mailto:wmo48 at yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 11:42 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] refinishing companionway stairs

I added Quikrete Anti-Skid floor texture additive to my clear polyurethane.
The additive turns clear when you mix it into the poly.  Stopped slippage on
the companion-way stairs instantly, you feel it but don't see it.  Put it on
4 
seasons back and it still holding up well.   I got the additive a Lowes for 
about $5.
Mike Ott
'Amanda Lu'
#508




________________________________
From: Bronwen Young <baeyoung at telus.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Fri, February 1, 2013 11:19:05 AM
Subject: [C320-list] refinishing companionway stairs

Does anyone know what product to use on the companion way stairs?  They are
in good shape and only need a rough sand and then a finishing of some kind.
I have a can of the Catalina interior stain.  That works very well for
everything inside the boat.  I am not sure if its rugged enough for the
stairs. 


Bronwen and Eric.  1995 / #198