[C320-list] Heart-Miller Island Cut

Bruce swampcreek42 at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 3 17:58:08 PDT 2013


I thought we had a mix of information ...either that or I was going crazy. Anyway the good ship Nauti Time will be off HMI next Friday. We'll be with a bunch of Macgregors we used to sail with. Of course we'll be anchored off shore and not beached like we used to do...Bruce.

Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com> wrote:

>I was talking about the North channel into Kent Narrows when I made that 
>comment, not Hart-Miller cut. Looking at the latest (May 2013) edition 
>of the relevant chart you can see that the "temporary" buoy (G "3") on 
>the north channel is shown OUTSIDE the former dredged channel and fixed 
>markers. The old G "3" is the new R "4" and its former partner (the old 
>R "4" across the old channel) is now listed as W "A." The controlling 
>depth is listed as 3 feet in the channel as of May 2012. I sure hope 
>they dredge it soon as it is a very long sail around Kent Island to 
>reach St. Michaels or the Wye River from points north otherwise.
>
>See http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/12272.shtml for the online 
>chart with details of Kent Narrows. You need to zoom in to the top part 
>of the inset in the lower right corner to see the buoy in question.
>
>BTW, the latest chart (dated Oct 2012) of the Hart-Miller Cut reports 
>7.5 feet as of 2010.  See 
>http://www.charts.noaa.gov/OnLineViewer/12278.shtml.
>
>
>
>On 7/3/2013 4:22 PM, Warren Updike wrote:
>> Last year??  I'm not aware that there was a temp buoy there.  Yes, the cut does get thin outside the channel.  It's my belief that a 5 ft. keel shouldn't have a problem staying in the channel.
>> I tend to favor the red going through.
>> In a strong wind, check your track by sighting a line between buoys. It's easy to be blown to the side and still think you are in the channel.
>>
>> Warren & Pattie Updike
>> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Thompson [mailto:surprise at thompson87.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:26 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Heart-Miller Island Cut
>>
>> So you had plenty of water in the main channel? When I went through last year you had to take a detour outside the fixed markers on the north side to go around a temporary buoy and although I didn't bump I thought I couldn't have more than 6 inches under the keel. Reports were that in the main channel there was less than 4 ft at that point. Have they dredged recently?
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/2013 1:20 PM, Jerry Taylor wrote:
>>> Hi Scott,
>>>
>>> I went through Kent Narrows a couple of weeks ago and had plenty of
>>> water on the North side.  The tide had been flooding for about an hour
>>> and had to put the pedal to the medal to get under the bridge!  Piper
>>> draws 4'4".  Hope this helps.  Knapps Narrows was not fun on a dead
>>> low tide, but made it without grounding and minimal tide under the
>>> bridge.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>> Piper - 1128
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Scott Thompson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:50 AM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Heart-Miller Island Cut
>>>
>>> Bruce, if you get the answer some other way, please let the rest of us
>>> Chesapeake sailors know. I've wondered about that cut for some time
>>> and have never tried it, except on my parent's boat in the 1980's. But
>>> Hart-Miller was much smaller then before they started dumping dredge
>>> spoils there, and my parent's boat only drew 3.5 feet with the board
>>> up and had no instruments to measure the actual depth. My chart
>>> suggests it can't be done today, but perhaps that is wrong.
>>>
>>> On a related note, have any Chesapeake sailors taken their boat
>>> through Kent Narrows this year? I've wondered if it is still possible
>>> given all of the shoaling in the north channel recently. Running
>>> aground with the wing keel and a lot of powerboat traffic is no fun.
>>>
>>> Scott Thompson
>>> Surprise, #653
>>>
>>> On 7/1/2013 6:41 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> To any of you sailors familiar with the area...Can a 320 navigate
>>>> through the cut? We anchored at HMI Saturday night but we went around
>>>> the North side and came down. With hull #719 and a wing keel I
>>>> believe our draft is 4'10" I've even though there hundreds of times
>>>> on other boats but I know how that channel can fill in, I don't want
>>>> to find out the hard way.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Hunter
>>>> Nauti Time #719
>>>
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