[C320-list] Posting to the list

[Don Johnson]

Jeff,
 
I have posted a thing or 2 in the past, but not for some time.  I seem to have trouble each time remembering how or where to create & submit! The other day, I asked a question via "contact the owner" within the list, but that apparently is not the right method since I have not seen it appear on the list.  I've probably asked this of you before, but where do we go to add a question or inquiry to the list?  Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Regards,
 
Don Johnson
Hull #53

--- On Wed, 4/3/13, Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:


From: Jeff Hare <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Posting to the list
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2013, 2:12 PM


Here are a few things to note about the list.   

First, I'm really sorry it's an email list.  Eventually this will improve
and be more modern, but as we keep saying, with externally run forums like
Google/Yahoo etc., we don't own the discussion history and it gets culled at
their discretion.  We're don't want to lose our content history.  We can run
our own web-based forum, but we run the risk of our domain name being marked
as a Spam site if we then choose to allow email notifications for following
threads and it's much harder to protect against hacks and virus injection.

Bruce, in the Upper Right corner of the website (on every page) is a Search
bar.  Type shaft alignment and hit enter.    :)   (Some content may require
that you're logged into the site in order to read the content.)  I don't
recommend browsing around as a means of finding specific content until we
simplify the content organization.

For now, I collect requests for hull roster changes and when I get a handful
of them, I go in and make the changes.  We'll work to get this tied better
to the Association membership info.

When sending email to the list, "ReplyAll" is generally a bad idea.  We
configured our list to reject email that is cross-posted (multiple addresses
in the "To:" or "CC:" fields.) in order to help block spam and address book
bulk posting attacks.   Occasionally a some slip by but it's pretty rare.

Also, all email gets converted to "Plain Text", with attachments stripped
off.  This helps eliminate other classes of possible harmful stuff delivered
to your inbox that would get archived and left around for future people to
accidentally click on in the future.  So, if your email is all styled up
with Bold/Italic, bullets, pictures and stuff, plan on that getting rejected
or stripped bare.

The reason Reply works and New email may not is because of how your email
client composes new email messages.  When you "Reply" it uses the settings
of the message you're replying to.  New email gets created however your
email program is set to compose email.  Sometimes that means that it ONLY
provides the "HTML" format-rich version of the email and not the "plain
text" version in the email package sent out.  If we can't find the plain
text part of the message, it'll get dropped as a message without content.

The reason that Changing the subject affects digest threading is because
when you reply to an email message, the unique message thread id doesn't get
changed.  Most email discussion threading uses these message ids to
determine that two messages belong to the same discussion.  Geek-speak.

The bottom line is...  it is complex and there are lots of details.  We're
doing our best right now to keep things simple but now that we *finally*
have a real Web Team on board instead of just myself (Dave, Sean, Karl and
others help out Tons too), we're hoping we can start making a dent in these
annoyances.  It'll take some time for everyone to become familiar with what
we have to work with however.

Cheers!
-Jeff

PS:  All the things voiced are real concerns and hearing them really helps
us know where to put our focus first.  So don't be afraid to drop
suggestions in the Contact Us form on the website.  They all get stored in a
database that we can review and prioritize.



-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Hunter
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:40 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Posting to the list

I Reply To All and erase the previous messages then change the Subject.
 
I have trouble with the site as well so don't feel alone. I must be doing
something wrong on the site since I'm not too successful at finding
subjects...such as shaft alignment. Then I ask on the email list and get
directed to the site. Why can't this be run like a normal forum? I love the
idea of a site for 320 owners. I guess I need more practice at this because
so far I haven't been too successful at making this site work for me. I'd
use it more if I got more from it.
 
I have also sent a few notices the last few weeks on our name change in the
Hull Number Roster with no effect.
 
Bruce Hunter
Nauti Time #719

From: Colin Evans <twosailors at bigpond.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Posting to the list

Not sure why it doesn`t work.
But if you change the subject for an existing topic then those that only get
the "digest" daily will suddenly have a change of discussion under the
original topic. So maybe it`s not a wise thing to do. 

*************************
Regards
Colin Evans
Watermark
2000 C320 # 774
Lake Macquarie, Australia


-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
DennyBrowne at Verizon.net
Sent: Wednesday, 3 April 2013 9:18 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Posting to the list

I've tried a couple of times recently to post an original question, but the
list seems to simply reject me without comment. Neither the C320-list
acknowledgement nor the post ever show up in my Inbox (although they do show
up in my Sent Mail), unless I reply to someone else's post and change the
subject line. Am I overlooking something?

Thanks,


DENNY BROWNE
A Cappella #935
Redondo Beach, CA
Denny at DennyBrowne.com