[C320-list] Kiwi Prop

Annika Brancato annikabrancato at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 5 20:02:13 PDT 2013


We just purchased a KIWI prop in Apriland the price was $1,500 US including shipping.  We did get charged Goods and Services Tax in Canada, which was about $120...
 


 
 Annika
 
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:23:21 -0700
> From: obuoy4848 at sbcglobal.net
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> 
> I thought a Kiwi prop would only work SOUTH of the equator --Hee, Hee
> 
> --- On Wed, 6/5/13, Colin Evans <twosailors at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Colin Evans <twosailors at bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013, 4:34 PM
> 
> Chuck, Brian.
> Thanks for the info.  Interesting that you have different specifications.  I
> was quoted 16" diameter and 20 degree pitch.  The same as Chuck.  Both close
> model numbers to ours.
> By the serial number on the prop the supplier determined that the prop was
> supplied for a Yanmar 3GM30 ( which we have) and a 2.62 gearbox reduction (
> we have 2.21)  So the prop didn`t come off a C350 as they have Universal
> 35hp.
> The local supplier said that cutting down the blades is a simple operation,
> but it`s all charged for
> With the costs involved it could be false economy to get a second hand one.
> A new one is $1975 + delivery, and costs are getting close to $1000 for the
> scond hand one, depending on what the vendor agrees on .
> 
> 
> ************************************
> Regards
> Colin Evans
> __/)
> ~~~~~
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> katchu at chartermi.net
> Sent: Thursday, 6 June 2013 4:57 AM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Colin:
> 
> 
> I put on a Kiwi prop this Spring.  It is 16 x 20 degrees, and I think that I
> need to make a pitch adjustment as my max rpm dropped to about 3000 rpm.
> Otherwise, it provides much better reverse thrust, and a noticeable
> reduction in drag while sailing.  I also have the 2:21 reduction gear, so
> your local recommendation was correct.
> 
> 
> I don't think that you will be able to just shave off the blades, but it is
> very easy to replace blades, and I don't think that they are very expensive.
> If the C350 had a 1" shaft, then the hub is probably identical        .
> 
> 
> Chuck Mueller
> 
> Northwind #676
> 
> Holland, MI  
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 22:55:39 +0000
> From: JJ Morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: Catalina List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> Message-ID: <BAY172-W394DCFA6639302920FF008E99E0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I don't know of any propeller manufacturer which gives pitch in degrees.
> They are always in inches so a 16.5X11RH prop is 16.5 inches in diameter;has
> an 11 inch pitch (which means that for each rotation the propellor will
> travel 11inches through the water, disregarding slip) and has a right hand
> rotation.CheersJohnM1999#574
> 
> > From: twosailors at bigpond.com
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 07:47:54 +1000
> > Subject: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> > 
> > I`ve been offered a second hand Kiwi Prop, supposedly off a Catalina 350,
> > but the suppliers say it was for a Yanmar GM30, 16.5" diameter, RH
> > direction, 2.62 gearbox reduction and 1' shaft..  The C350 has a 35hp
> > Universal engine.
> > Those of you who have the Kiwi Prop.  What diameter and pitch is it.
> We`ve
> > looked at various info on the C320 site but couldn`t find the size.
> > I know they don`t give the pitch in inches, but degrees.
> > The local supplier suggest a 16 inch diameter by 20 degrees for the 2.21
> > reduction gearbox. It would mean cutting 1/4 inch off the blades.
> > Apparently no problem.
> > The good thing with the Kiwi is the weight.  I won`t have to change from
> > bronze to a stainless shaft.
> >  
> > *************************
> > Regards
> > Colin Evans
> > Watermark 
> > 2000 C320 # 774 
> > Lake Macquarie, Australia
>             
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:10:11 +1000
> From: "Colin Evans" <twosailors at bigpond.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> Message-ID: <BA0D750D753542B2BA642BC563CCFF90 at OfficePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> 
> Yes John I agree BUT the Kiwis, in their infinite wisdom, set these things
> to degrees. See the second page of :-
> 
>  http://www.kiwiprops.co.nz/cms/images/stories/kiwiprops/pdf/k3om-2.pdf
> 
> They say that 21 degrees is approx 11 to 12 inches pitch
> 
> If I buy the second hand one then it will be sent to the Australian dealer
> for re-furbishment.
> 
> 
> *************************
> Regards
> Colin Evans
> Watermark 
> 2000 C320 # 774 
> Lake Macquarie, Australia
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of JJ Morrison
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 8:56 AM
> To: Catalina List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> 
> I don't know of any propeller manufacturer which gives pitch in degrees.
> They are always in inches so a 16.5X11RH prop is 16.5 inches in diameter;has
> an 11 inch pitch (which means that for each rotation the propellor will
> travel 11inches through the water, disregarding slip) and has a right hand
> rotation.CheersJohnM1999#574
> 
> > From: twosailors at bigpond.com
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 07:47:54 +1000
> > Subject: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> > 
> > I`ve been offered a second hand Kiwi Prop, supposedly off a Catalina 350,
> > but the suppliers say it was for a Yanmar GM30, 16.5" diameter, RH
> > direction, 2.62 gearbox reduction and 1' shaft..  The C350 has a 35hp
> > Universal engine.
> > Those of you who have the Kiwi Prop.  What diameter and pitch is it.
> We`ve
> > looked at various info on the C320 site but couldn`t find the size.
> > I know they don`t give the pitch in inches, but degrees.
> > The local supplier suggest a 16 inch diameter by 20 degrees for the 2.21
> > reduction gearbox. It would mean cutting 1/4 inch off the blades.
> > Apparently no problem.
> > The good thing with the Kiwi is the weight.  I won`t have to change from
> > bronze to a stainless shaft.
> >  
> > *************************
> > Regards
> > Colin Evans
> > Watermark 
> > 2000 C320 # 774 
> > Lake Macquarie, Australia
>             
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:48:12 -0400
> From: Jason Alexander <alexander.jason at gmail.com>
> To: c320-list <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> Message-ID:
>  <CANAkHg_EB0bsPhP0hL3hZuQ77eT5Qd6NAW_evBmoQv3hTf4t8w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have been bitten by the bug to buy a bigger boat.   So I've put Hull 782
> up for sale.  I'm working on pictures.
> 
> Boat Information
> 
> Boat Name
> MoneyPenny
> 
> Specs
> Designer: Catalina Yachts Design
> Keel: Wing
> Hull Shape: Monohull
> 
> Dimensions
> LOA: 32 ft 6 in
> Beam: 11 ft 9 in
> LWL: 28 ft 0 in
> Minimum Draft: 4 ft 10 in
> Displacement: 11300 lbs
> Ballast: 4000 lbs
> Headroom: 6 ft 3 in
> Dry Weight: 11300 lbs
> 
> Engines
> Engine 1:
> Engine Brand: Yanmar
> Year Built: 2001
> Engine Model: 3GM30
> Engine Type: Inboard
> Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
> Engine Hours: ~410
> 
> Tanks
> Fresh Water Tanks: Plastic (90 Gallons)
> Fuel Tanks: Aluminum (19 Gallons)
> Holding Tanks: Plastic (19 Gallons)
> 
> 
> Manufacturer Provided Description
> The Catalina 320 is an exciting design that successfully combines the best
> modern features and construction with Catalina's hallmark comfort and
> value. Based on a high-performance and high-volume computer-optimized hull
> design, the 320 is light on the helm and tracks well under sail or power.
> Motion and heeling are gentle and predictable. The 320 performs well in a
> variety of conditions, with either the available wing or fin keels. Racing
> skippers will enjoy the turn of speed and cruisers will appreciate the
> additional distance covered in a day's passage. Carrying the deck beam well
> aft created space for an exceptionally large cockpit. The wide coamings and
> ergonomically correct seats and backs are important features, considering
> the cockpit is where we all spend the most time when aboard. The weather
> decks are wide with molded-in non-skid and bulwarks, giving easy, sure
> access to the foredeck and standard below deck electric anchor windlass.
> Other important quality features of the deck include the stout aluminum
> framed opening deck hatches and ball bearing mainsheet traveler system. The
> rigging and spar systems are engineered for performance and durability. The
> fore and aft lowers with intermediate and upper shrouds make the rig very
> secure and easy to keep in tune. A rigid adjustable boom vang is standard.
> The unique interior is beautifully finished in a rich combination of teak,
> ash and maple hardwoods, complementing the beige textured fiberglass
> overhead and full hull liner. Attention to details like the custom molded
> galley counters with integral backsplashes, three separate lighting
> circuits in the main cabin, removable panels in the forward bulkhead, and a
> cedar paneled hanging locker set the 320 apart from the ordinary. The
> one-piece, integral molded fiberglass subsole grid system is rigid, strong
> and requires no maintenance.
> 
> 
> Sails
> IJPE : 521.58 sq ft
> I : 43.58 ft
> J : 12.33 ft
> P : 38.00 ft
> E : 13.25 ft
> Working Sail Area : 521.00 sq ft
> 
> Both the main is original and in good condition.  The and 135% genoa was
> new in 2011.  The genoa is roller furling with Sunbrella UV protection on
> leech and foot while the main has full battens and flakes on the boom with
> a dutchman flaking system.
> 
> 
> Keel Details
> Keel Type: Wing?Ballast: 4400 lb?Displacement: 13700 lbs?Max Draft: 4.25 ft
> 
> Galley
> ? Double Stainless Sink
> ? Refrigerator w/ Adler Barber Refrigeration
> ? Icebox
> ? 2 burner propane stove w/ oven
> 
> 
> Electronics
> ? ST 60 Speed
> ? ST 60 Depth
> ? ST 60 Wind
> ? ST 4000 Wheelpilot
> ? C90W Chart Plotter
> ? Garmin Handheld GPS
> ? Standard Horizon with Cockpit Remote Mic
> 
> 
> Canvas
> ? New Bimini 2013
> ? New Dodger 2013
> ? New Main Sail Cover 2013
> ? Winch Covers
> 
> 
> Additional Equipment
> ? Teak Cockpit Table
> ? Cockpit Cushions and
> ? Bottom Painted Spring 2012
> ? Danforth anchor on bow roller with chain and rope rode
> 
> Asking 73,00
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 10:57:11 +1000
> From: "Colin Evans" <twosailors at bigpond.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> Message-ID: <BF5D464CB9074442B56A32F444BCF14F at OfficePC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> You are preaching to the converted advertising a Catalina 320 on this site.
> 
> We are only 8 boats behind you and ours was lunched in July 2000 in
> Australia.
> *************************
> Regards
> Colin Evans
> Watermark 
> 2000 C320 # 774 
> Lake Macquarie, Australia
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jason
> Alexander
> Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 10:48 AM
> To: c320-list
> Subject: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have been bitten by the bug to buy a bigger boat.   So I've put Hull 782
> up for sale.  I'm working on pictures.
> 
> Boat Information
> 
> Boat Name
> MoneyPenny
> 
> Specs
> Designer: Catalina Yachts Design
> Keel: Wing
> Hull Shape: Monohull
> 
> Dimensions
> LOA: 32 ft 6 in
> Beam: 11 ft 9 in
> LWL: 28 ft 0 in
> Minimum Draft: 4 ft 10 in
> Displacement: 11300 lbs
> Ballast: 4000 lbs
> Headroom: 6 ft 3 in
> Dry Weight: 11300 lbs
> 
> Engines
> Engine 1:
> Engine Brand: Yanmar
> Year Built: 2001
> Engine Model: 3GM30
> Engine Type: Inboard
> Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
> Engine Hours: ~410
> 
> Tanks
> Fresh Water Tanks: Plastic (90 Gallons)
> Fuel Tanks: Aluminum (19 Gallons)
> Holding Tanks: Plastic (19 Gallons)
> 
> 
> Manufacturer Provided Description
> The Catalina 320 is an exciting design that successfully combines the best
> modern features and construction with Catalina's hallmark comfort and
> value. Based on a high-performance and high-volume computer-optimized hull
> design, the 320 is light on the helm and tracks well under sail or power.
> Motion and heeling are gentle and predictable. The 320 performs well in a
> variety of conditions, with either the available wing or fin keels. Racing
> skippers will enjoy the turn of speed and cruisers will appreciate the
> additional distance covered in a day's passage. Carrying the deck beam well
> aft created space for an exceptionally large cockpit. The wide coamings and
> ergonomically correct seats and backs are important features, considering
> the cockpit is where we all spend the most time when aboard. The weather
> decks are wide with molded-in non-skid and bulwarks, giving easy, sure
> access to the foredeck and standard below deck electric anchor windlass.
> Other important quality features of the deck include the stout aluminum
> framed opening deck hatches and ball bearing mainsheet traveler system. The
> rigging and spar systems are engineered for performance and durability. The
> fore and aft lowers with intermediate and upper shrouds make the rig very
> secure and easy to keep in tune. A rigid adjustable boom vang is standard.
> The unique interior is beautifully finished in a rich combination of teak,
> ash and maple hardwoods, complementing the beige textured fiberglass
> overhead and full hull liner. Attention to details like the custom molded
> galley counters with integral backsplashes, three separate lighting
> circuits in the main cabin, removable panels in the forward bulkhead, and a
> cedar paneled hanging locker set the 320 apart from the ordinary. The
> one-piece, integral molded fiberglass subsole grid system is rigid, strong
> and requires no maintenance.
> 
> 
> Sails
> IJPE : 521.58 sq ft
> I : 43.58 ft
> J : 12.33 ft
> P : 38.00 ft
> E : 13.25 ft
> Working Sail Area : 521.00 sq ft
> 
> Both the main is original and in good condition.  The and 135% genoa was
> new in 2011.  The genoa is roller furling with Sunbrella UV protection on
> leech and foot while the main has full battens and flakes on the boom with
> a dutchman flaking system.
> 
> 
> Keel Details
> Keel Type: Wing?Ballast: 4400 lb?Displacement: 13700 lbs?Max Draft: 4.25 ft
> 
> Galley
> . Double Stainless Sink
> . Refrigerator w/ Adler Barber Refrigeration
> . Icebox
> . 2 burner propane stove w/ oven
> 
> 
> Electronics
> . ST 60 Speed
> . ST 60 Depth
> . ST 60 Wind
> . ST 4000 Wheelpilot
> . C90W Chart Plotter
> . Garmin Handheld GPS
> . Standard Horizon with Cockpit Remote Mic
> 
> 
> Canvas
> . New Bimini 2013
> . New Dodger 2013
> . New Main Sail Cover 2013
> . Winch Covers
> 
> 
> Additional Equipment
> . Teak Cockpit Table
> . Cockpit Cushions and
> . Bottom Painted Spring 2012
> . Danforth anchor on bow roller with chain and rope rode
> 
> Asking 73,00
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 21:18:31 -0400
> From: Jason Alexander <alexander.jason at gmail.com>
> To: c320-list <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> Message-ID:
>  <CANAkHg81Cjz7ByU+Nu0tszdQTGj3ZrtB2kpX_1AzWJyT1gnOLQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Sure I know.  I'm posting in other places but who better to let know a 320
> is for sale than the group that loves them.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Colin Evans <twosailors at bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
> > You are preaching to the converted advertising a Catalina 320 on this
> site.
> >
> > We are only 8 boats behind you and ours was lunched in July 2000 in
> > Australia.
> > *************************
> > Regards
> > Colin Evans
> > Watermark
> > 2000 C320 # 774
> > Lake Macquarie, Australia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jason
> > Alexander
> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 10:48 AM
> > To: c320-list
> > Subject: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have been bitten by the bug to buy a bigger boat.   So I've put Hull 782
> > up for sale.  I'm working on pictures.
> >
> > Boat Information
> >
> > Boat Name
> > MoneyPenny
> >
> > Specs
> > Designer: Catalina Yachts Design
> > Keel: Wing
> > Hull Shape: Monohull
> >
> > Dimensions
> > LOA: 32 ft 6 in
> > Beam: 11 ft 9 in
> > LWL: 28 ft 0 in
> > Minimum Draft: 4 ft 10 in
> > Displacement: 11300 lbs
> > Ballast: 4000 lbs
> > Headroom: 6 ft 3 in
> > Dry Weight: 11300 lbs
> >
> > Engines
> > Engine 1:
> > Engine Brand: Yanmar
> > Year Built: 2001
> > Engine Model: 3GM30
> > Engine Type: Inboard
> > Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
> > Engine Hours: ~410
> >
> > Tanks
> > Fresh Water Tanks: Plastic (90 Gallons)
> > Fuel Tanks: Aluminum (19 Gallons)
> > Holding Tanks: Plastic (19 Gallons)
> >
> >
> > Manufacturer Provided Description
> > The Catalina 320 is an exciting design that successfully combines the best
> > modern features and construction with Catalina's hallmark comfort and
> > value. Based on a high-performance and high-volume computer-optimized hull
> > design, the 320 is light on the helm and tracks well under sail or power.
> > Motion and heeling are gentle and predictable. The 320 performs well in a
> > variety of conditions, with either the available wing or fin keels. Racing
> > skippers will enjoy the turn of speed and cruisers will appreciate the
> > additional distance covered in a day's passage. Carrying the deck beam
> well
> > aft created space for an exceptionally large cockpit. The wide coamings
> and
> > ergonomically correct seats and backs are important features, considering
> > the cockpit is where we all spend the most time when aboard. The weather
> > decks are wide with molded-in non-skid and bulwarks, giving easy, sure
> > access to the foredeck and standard below deck electric anchor windlass.
> > Other important quality features of the deck include the stout aluminum
> > framed opening deck hatches and ball bearing mainsheet traveler system.
> The
> > rigging and spar systems are engineered for performance and durability.
> The
> > fore and aft lowers with intermediate and upper shrouds make the rig very
> > secure and easy to keep in tune. A rigid adjustable boom vang is standard.
> > The unique interior is beautifully finished in a rich combination of teak,
> > ash and maple hardwoods, complementing the beige textured fiberglass
> > overhead and full hull liner. Attention to details like the custom molded
> > galley counters with integral backsplashes, three separate lighting
> > circuits in the main cabin, removable panels in the forward bulkhead, and
> a
> > cedar paneled hanging locker set the 320 apart from the ordinary. The
> > one-piece, integral molded fiberglass subsole grid system is rigid, strong
> > and requires no maintenance.
> >
> >
> > Sails
> > IJPE : 521.58 sq ft
> > I : 43.58 ft
> > J : 12.33 ft
> > P : 38.00 ft
> > E : 13.25 ft
> > Working Sail Area : 521.00 sq ft
> >
> > Both the main is original and in good condition.  The and 135% genoa was
> > new in 2011.  The genoa is roller furling with Sunbrella UV protection on
> > leech and foot while the main has full battens and flakes on the boom with
> > a dutchman flaking system.
> >
> >
> > Keel Details
> > Keel Type: Wing?Ballast: 4400 lb?Displacement: 13700 lbs?Max Draft: 4.25
> ft
> >
> > Galley
> > . Double Stainless Sink
> > . Refrigerator w/ Adler Barber Refrigeration
> > . Icebox
> > . 2 burner propane stove w/ oven
> >
> >
> > Electronics
> > . ST 60 Speed
> > . ST 60 Depth
> > . ST 60 Wind
> > . ST 4000 Wheelpilot
> > . C90W Chart Plotter
> > . Garmin Handheld GPS
> > . Standard Horizon with Cockpit Remote Mic
> >
> >
> > Canvas
> > . New Bimini 2013
> > . New Dodger 2013
> > . New Main Sail Cover 2013
> > . Winch Covers
> >
> >
> > Additional Equipment
> > . Teak Cockpit Table
> > . Cockpit Cushions and
> > . Bottom Painted Spring 2012
> > . Danforth anchor on bow roller with chain and rope rode
> >
> > Asking 73,00
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 22:05:32 -0400
> From: "Allan S Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> Message-ID: <005b01ce6191$29308180$7b918480$@verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> I will gladly give you $73.00 for it!  I feel pretty good that I could at
> least $74.00 for it!  And where is it?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jason
> Alexander
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:48 PM
> To: c320-list
> Subject: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I have been bitten by the bug to buy a bigger boat.   So I've put Hull 782
> up for sale.  I'm working on pictures.
> 
> Boat Information
> 
> Boat Name
> MoneyPenny
> 
> Specs
> Designer: Catalina Yachts Design
> Keel: Wing
> Hull Shape: Monohull
> 
> Dimensions
> LOA: 32 ft 6 in
> Beam: 11 ft 9 in
> LWL: 28 ft 0 in
> Minimum Draft: 4 ft 10 in
> Displacement: 11300 lbs
> Ballast: 4000 lbs
> Headroom: 6 ft 3 in
> Dry Weight: 11300 lbs
> 
> Engines
> Engine 1:
> Engine Brand: Yanmar
> Year Built: 2001
> Engine Model: 3GM30
> Engine Type: Inboard
> Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
> Engine Hours: ~410
> 
> Tanks
> Fresh Water Tanks: Plastic (90 Gallons)
> Fuel Tanks: Aluminum (19 Gallons)
> Holding Tanks: Plastic (19 Gallons)
> 
> 
> Manufacturer Provided Description
> The Catalina 320 is an exciting design that successfully combines the best
> modern features and construction with Catalina's hallmark comfort and value.
> Based on a high-performance and high-volume computer-optimized hull design,
> the 320 is light on the helm and tracks well under sail or power.
> Motion and heeling are gentle and predictable. The 320 performs well in a
> variety of conditions, with either the available wing or fin keels. Racing
> skippers will enjoy the turn of speed and cruisers will appreciate the
> additional distance covered in a day's passage. Carrying the deck beam well
> aft created space for an exceptionally large cockpit. The wide coamings and
> ergonomically correct seats and backs are important features, considering
> the cockpit is where we all spend the most time when aboard. The weather
> decks are wide with molded-in non-skid and bulwarks, giving easy, sure
> access to the foredeck and standard below deck electric anchor windlass.
> Other important quality features of the deck include the stout aluminum
> framed opening deck hatches and ball bearing mainsheet traveler system. The
> rigging and spar systems are engineered for performance and durability. The
> fore and aft lowers with intermediate and upper shrouds make the rig very
> secure and easy to keep in tune. A rigid adjustable boom vang is standard.
> The unique interior is beautifully finished in a rich combination of teak,
> ash and maple hardwoods, complementing the beige textured fiberglass
> overhead and full hull liner. Attention to details like the custom molded
> galley counters with integral backsplashes, three separate lighting circuits
> in the main cabin, removable panels in the forward bulkhead, and a cedar
> paneled hanging locker set the 320 apart from the ordinary. The one-piece,
> integral molded fiberglass subsole grid system is rigid, strong and requires
> no maintenance.
> 
> 
> Sails
> IJPE : 521.58 sq ft
> I : 43.58 ft
> J : 12.33 ft
> P : 38.00 ft
> E : 13.25 ft
> Working Sail Area : 521.00 sq ft
> 
> Both the main is original and in good condition.  The and 135% genoa was new
> in 2011.  The genoa is roller furling with Sunbrella UV protection on leech
> and foot while the main has full battens and flakes on the boom with a
> dutchman flaking system.
> 
> 
> Keel Details
> Keel Type: Wing?Ballast: 4400 lb?Displacement: 13700 lbs?Max Draft: 4.25 ft
> 
> Galley
> . Double Stainless Sink
> . Refrigerator w/ Adler Barber Refrigeration . Icebox . 2 burner propane
> stove w/ oven
> 
> 
> Electronics
> . ST 60 Speed
> . ST 60 Depth
> . ST 60 Wind
> . ST 4000 Wheelpilot
> . C90W Chart Plotter
> . Garmin Handheld GPS
> . Standard Horizon with Cockpit Remote Mic
> 
> 
> Canvas
> . New Bimini 2013
> . New Dodger 2013
> . New Main Sail Cover 2013
> . Winch Covers
> 
> 
> Additional Equipment
> . Teak Cockpit Table
> . Cockpit Cushions and
> . Bottom Painted Spring 2012
> . Danforth anchor on bow roller with chain and rope rode
> 
> Asking 73,00
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:36:46 +0000
> From: JJ Morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: Catalina List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> Message-ID: <BAY172-W442A4649579B5097A8B08DE99F0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Makes getting out of bed every day worthwhile! ThanksJohnM
> 
> > From: twosailors at bigpond.com
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:10:11 +1000
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> > 
> > 
> > Yes John I agree BUT the Kiwis, in their infinite wisdom, set these things
> > to degrees. See the second page of :-
> > 
> >  http://www.kiwiprops.co.nz/cms/images/stories/kiwiprops/pdf/k3om-2.pdf
> > 
> > They say that 21 degrees is approx 11 to 12 inches pitch
> > 
> > If I buy the second hand one then it will be sent to the Australian dealer
> > for re-furbishment.
> > 
> > 
> > *************************
> > Regards
> > Colin Evans
> > Watermark 
> > 2000 C320 # 774 
> > Lake Macquarie, Australia
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of JJ Morrison
> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 8:56 AM
> > To: Catalina List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> > 
> > I don't know of any propeller manufacturer which gives pitch in degrees.
> > They are always in inches so a 16.5X11RH prop is 16.5 inches in
> diameter;has
> > an 11 inch pitch (which means that for each rotation the propellor will
> > travel 11inches through the water, disregarding slip) and has a right hand
> > rotation.CheersJohnM1999#574
> > 
> > > From: twosailors at bigpond.com
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 07:47:54 +1000
> > > Subject: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> > > 
> > > I`ve been offered a second hand Kiwi Prop, supposedly off a Catalina
> 350,
> > > but the suppliers say it was for a Yanmar GM30, 16.5" diameter, RH
> > > direction, 2.62 gearbox reduction and 1' shaft..  The C350 has a 35hp
> > > Universal engine.
> > > Those of you who have the Kiwi Prop.  What diameter and pitch is it.
> > We`ve
> > > looked at various info on the C320 site but couldn`t find the size.
> > > I know they don`t give the pitch in inches, but degrees.
> > > The local supplier suggest a 16 inch diameter by 20 degrees for the 2.21
> > > reduction gearbox. It would mean cutting 1/4 inch off the blades.
> > > Apparently no problem.
> > > The good thing with the Kiwi is the weight.  I won`t have to change from
> > > bronze to a stainless shaft.
> > >  
> > > *************************
> > > Regards
> > > Colin Evans
> > > Watermark 
> > > 2000 C320 # 774 
> > > Lake Macquarie, Australia
> >             
> > 
>             
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 21:42:37 +1000
> From: "=?utf-8?B?dHdvc2FpbG9yc0BiaWdwb25kLmNvbQ==?="
>  <twosailors at bigpond.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> Message-ID:
>  <20130605114239.ZVMW1968.nskntmtas02p.mx.bigpond.com at nskntcmgw08p>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> 
> Great John, but we are about to go to bed
> G'donya
> Work that one out
> 
> Colin Evans
> Sent from my 
> reasonably smart phone
> 
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "JJ Morrison" <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: "Catalina List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> Date: Wed, Jun 5, 2013 9:36 pm
> 
> 
> Makes getting out of bed every day worthwhile! ThanksJohnM
> 
> > From: twosailors at bigpond.com
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:10:11 +1000
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> > 
> > 
> > Yes John I agree BUT the Kiwis, in their infinite wisdom, set these things
> > to degrees. See the second page of :-
> > 
> >  http://www.kiwiprops.co.nz/cms/images/stories/kiwiprops/pdf/k3om-2.pdf
> > 
> > They say that 21 degrees is approx 11 to 12 inches pitch
> > 
> > If I buy the second hand one then it will be sent to the Australian dealer
> > for re-furbishment.
> > 
> > 
> > *************************
> > Regards
> > Colin Evans
> > Watermark 
> > 2000 C320 # 774 
> > Lake Macquarie, Australia
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of JJ Morrison
> > Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 8:56 AM
> > To: Catalina List
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> > 
> > I don't know of any propeller manufacturer which gives pitch in degrees.
> > They are always in inches so a 16.5X11RH prop is 16.5 inches in
> diameter;has
> > an 11 inch pitch (which means that for each rotation the propellor will
> > travel 11inches through the water, disregarding slip) and has a right hand
> > rotation.CheersJohnM1999#574
> > 
> > > From: twosailors at bigpond.com
> > > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 07:47:54 +1000
> > > Subject: [C320-list] Kiwi Prop
> > > 
> > > I`ve been offered a second hand Kiwi Prop, supposedly off a Catalina
> 350,
> > > but the suppliers say it was for a Yanmar GM30, 16.5" diameter, RH
> > > direction, 2.62 gearbox reduction and 1' shaft..  The C350 has a 35hp
> > > Universal engine.
> > > Those of you who have the Kiwi Prop.  What diameter and pitch is it.
> > We`ve
> > > looked at various info on the C320 site but couldn`t find the size.
> > > I know they don`t give the pitch in inches, but degrees.
> > > The local supplier suggest a 16 inch diameter by 20 degrees for the 2.21
> > > reduction gearbox. It would mean cutting 1/4 inch off the blades.
> > > Apparently no problem.
> > > The good thing with the Kiwi is the weight.  I won`t have to change from
> > > bronze to a stainless shaft.
> > >  
> > > *************************
> > > Regards
> > > Colin Evans
> > > Watermark 
> > > 2000 C320 # 774 
> > > Lake Macquarie, Australia
> >             
> > 
>             =
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:50:12 -0400
> From: Jason Alexander <alexander.jason at gmail.com>
> To: c320-list <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> Message-ID:
>  <CANAkHg_F6X381Chk9_u2YRXGgozD7OT0NaERnUOMjpTPsN-=kA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> I see I lost a zero cutting and pasting.    It's in Deltaville Virginia.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Allan S Field
> <allan.field at verizon.net>wrote:
> 
> > I will gladly give you $73.00 for it!  I feel pretty good that I could at
> > least $74.00 for it!  And where is it?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> > [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jason
> > Alexander
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:48 PM
> > To: c320-list
> > Subject: [C320-list] 2001 Catalina 320 Hull 782 for Sale
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have been bitten by the bug to buy a bigger boat.   So I've put Hull 782
> > up for sale.  I'm working on pictures.
> >
> > Boat Information
> >
> > Boat Name
> > MoneyPenny
> >
> > Specs
> > Designer: Catalina Yachts Design
> > Keel: Wing
> > Hull Shape: Monohull
> >
> > Dimensions
> > LOA: 32 ft 6 in
> > Beam: 11 ft 9 in
> > LWL: 28 ft 0 in
> > Minimum Draft: 4 ft 10 in
> > Displacement: 11300 lbs
> > Ballast: 4000 lbs
> > Headroom: 6 ft 3 in
> > Dry Weight: 11300 lbs
> >
> > Engines
> > Engine 1:
> > Engine Brand: Yanmar
> > Year Built: 2001
> > Engine Model: 3GM30
> > Engine Type: Inboard
> > Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel
> > Engine Hours: ~410
> >
> > Tanks
> > Fresh Water Tanks: Plastic (90 Gallons)
> > Fuel Tanks: Aluminum (19 Gallons)
> > Holding Tanks: Plastic (19 Gallons)
> >
> >
> > Manufacturer Provided Description
> > The Catalina 320 is an exciting design that successfully combines the best
> > modern features and construction with Catalina's hallmark comfort and
> > value.
> > Based on a high-performance and high-volume computer-optimized hull
> design,
> > the 320 is light on the helm and tracks well under sail or power.
> > Motion and heeling are gentle and predictable. The 320 performs well in a
> > variety of conditions, with either the available wing or fin keels. Racing
> > skippers will enjoy the turn of speed and cruisers will appreciate the
> > additional distance covered in a day's passage. Carrying the deck beam
> well
> > aft created space for an exceptionally large cockpit. The wide coamings
> and
> > ergonomically correct seats and backs are important features, considering
> > the cockpit is where we all spend the most time when aboard. The weather
> > decks are wide with molded-in non-skid and bulwarks, giving easy, sure
> > access to the foredeck and standard below deck electric anchor windlass.
> > Other important quality features of the deck include the stout aluminum
> > framed opening deck hatches and ball bearing mainsheet traveler system.
> The
> > rigging and spar systems are engineered for performance and durability.
> The
> > fore and aft lowers with intermediate and upper shrouds make the rig very
> > secure and easy to keep in tune. A rigid adjustable boom vang is standard.
> > The unique interior is beautifully finished in a rich combination of teak,
> > ash and maple hardwoods, complementing the beige textured fiberglass
> > overhead and full hull liner. Attention to details like the custom molded
> > galley counters with integral backsplashes, three separate lighting
> > circuits
> > in the main cabin, removable panels in the forward bulkhead, and a cedar
> > paneled hanging locker set the 320 apart from the ordinary. The one-piece,
> > integral molded fiberglass subsole grid system is rigid, strong and
> > requires
> > no maintenance.
> >
> >
> > Sails
> > IJPE : 521.58 sq ft
> > I : 43.58 ft
> > J : 12.33 ft
> > P : 38.00 ft
> > E : 13.25 ft
> > Working Sail Area : 521.00 sq ft
> >
> > Both the main is original and in good condition.  The and 135% genoa was
> > new
> > in 2011.  The genoa is roller furling with Sunbrella UV protection on
> leech
> > and foot while the main has full battens and flakes on the boom with a
> > dutchman flaking system.
> >
> >
> > Keel Details
> > Keel Type: Wing?Ballast: 4400 lb?Displacement: 13700 lbs?Max Draft: 4.25
> ft
> >
> > Galley
> > . Double Stainless Sink
> > . Refrigerator w/ Adler Barber Refrigeration . Icebox . 2 burner propane
> > stove w/ oven
> >
> >
> > Electronics
> > . ST 60 Speed
> > . ST 60 Depth
> > . ST 60 Wind
> > . ST 4000 Wheelpilot
> > . C90W Chart Plotter
> > . Garmin Handheld GPS
> > . Standard Horizon with Cockpit Remote Mic
> >
> >
> > Canvas
> > . New Bimini 2013
> > . New Dodger 2013
> > . New Main Sail Cover 2013
> > . Winch Covers
> >
> >
> > Additional Equipment
> > . Teak Cockpit Table
> > . Cockpit Cushions and
> > . Bottom Painted Spring 2012
> > . Danforth anchor on bow roller with chain and rope rode
> >
> > Asking 73,00
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:44:07 -0400
> From: Kirk Mueller <kirkm753 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> Message-ID:
>  <CA+kO+9YQhiNkTZtL-FdSwZgzkoTUvJOU4NfFgVd=M2AHWBH2XQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Has anyone recently installed A/C in their boat.  If so, what type and
> size? Where did they put the unit, the supply ducts and the return?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kirk Mueller
> Second Chance #361
> Rock Hall, MD
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:09:25 -0400
> From: Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> Message-ID:
>  <CAOO5o+2_xRXyEnMoMwnsHadjBhWj4oYrf1g_P1d2q_LQEeprjA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Installed a Flagship Marine unit from Stuart, FL in the aft starboard
> locker. Ran 2 ducts on top of shelf in aft cabin, then built a false front
> with a new shelf on top. Still leaves room for shirts, towels, etc. to be
> stored on the shelf.  I ran 2 ducts this way . . . one to head and one to
> salon. Then I ran a duct to aft cabin and one to galley over refrig.  With
> the return by the head of person sleeping furthest aft in aft cabin, the
> unit can be a bit noisy. Haven't solved that problem yet (just put unit in
> at the end of last season). Also need to reduce air flow in head and aft
> cabin to increase flow in salon.
> 
> Unit works great (could store a side of beef in the head right now
> though!). A nice benefit of this unit is that it uses resistance heat,
> which means I can run it on the hard in the winter season if I want to work
> on the interior of the boat. Apparently, the US Coast Guard uses the system
> on their 47' boats.
> 
> Right now I can run the AC and the microwave, lights, etc without having to
> install a separate power supply for just the AC.
> 
> Ben Cares
> Catch the Wind #37
> Erie, PA
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Kirk Mueller <kirkm753 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Has anyone recently installed A/C in their boat.  If so, what type and
> > size? Where did they put the unit, the supply ducts and the return?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kirk Mueller
> > Second Chance #361
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> *Ben Cares*
> *PHOTOGRAPHICARTS*
> 
> commercialphotography
> graphicdesign
> 
> 902 Market Street
> Meadville, PA  16335
> 
> 814.333.2990
> 814.720.5260 cell
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:26:18 -0400
> From: Kirk Mueller <kirkm753 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> Message-ID:
>  <CA+kO+9bKR6OPM4PxrvG8bDZH7K-A18nh-ig8i4g1Ha3jtzNw5w at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Hey Ben,
> 
> Where you able to put a duct up front in the v-berth?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kirk Mueller
> Second Chance #361
> Rock Hall, MD
> 
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>wrote:
> 
> > Installed a Flagship Marine unit from Stuart, FL in the aft starboard
> > locker. Ran 2 ducts on top of shelf in aft cabin, then built a false front
> > with a new shelf on top. Still leaves room for shirts, towels, etc. to be
> > stored on the shelf.  I ran 2 ducts this way . . . one to head and one to
> > salon. Then I ran a duct to aft cabin and one to galley over refrig.  With
> > the return by the head of person sleeping furthest aft in aft cabin, the
> > unit can be a bit noisy. Haven't solved that problem yet (just put unit in
> > at the end of last season). Also need to reduce air flow in head and aft
> > cabin to increase flow in salon.
> >
> > Unit works great (could store a side of beef in the head right now
> > though!). A nice benefit of this unit is that it uses resistance heat,
> > which means I can run it on the hard in the winter season if I want to
> work
> > on the interior of the boat. Apparently, the US Coast Guard uses the
> system
> > on their 47' boats.
> >
> > Right now I can run the AC and the microwave, lights, etc without having
> to
> > install a separate power supply for just the AC.
> >
> > Ben Cares
> > Catch the Wind #37
> > Erie, PA
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Kirk Mueller <kirkm753 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Has anyone recently installed A/C in their boat.  If so, what type and
> > > size? Where did they put the unit, the supply ducts and the return?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Kirk Mueller
> > > Second Chance #361
> > > Rock Hall, MD
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Ben Cares*
> > *PHOTOGRAPHICARTS*
> >
> > commercialphotography
> > graphicdesign
> >
> > 902 Market Street
> > Meadville, PA  16335
> >
> > 814.333.2990
> > 814.720.5260 cell
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:10:34 -0400
> From: Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Air Conditioning
> Message-ID:
>  <CAOO5o+3m93ZsnHyiex6LKv4ktQBKpyPe8N==8piDnm3=Vakv5Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> I could not, but our '94 with the two opening panels and the door open
> cools down okay. We also pull the blind over the hatch  in the forward
> cabin during the day. I tried to find a way to get a duct up there but
> looked like it would mean major drilling or put another false front  and
> shelf on the starboard side ( I didn't even want to think about doing
> that).
> 
> This is a work in progress! I'll be fine tuning this all summer probably.
> 
> If you want a few pictures of what it looks like, I'll be glad to send them
> along when I get up there this weekend.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Kirk Mueller <kirkm753 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hey Ben,
> >
> > Where you able to put a duct up front in the v-berth?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kirk Mueller
> > Second Chance #361
> > Rock Hall, MD
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Ben Cares <bcares at caresphotoarts.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Installed a Flagship Marine unit from Stuart, FL in the aft starboard
> > > locker. Ran 2 ducts on top of shelf in aft cabin, then built a false
> > front
> > > with a new shelf on top. Still leaves room for shirts, towels, etc. to
> be
> > > stored on the shelf.  I ran 2 ducts this way . . . one to head and one
> to
> > > salon. Then I ran a duct to aft cabin and one to galley over refrig.
> >  With
> > > the return by the head of person sleeping furthest aft in aft cabin, the
> > > unit can be a bit noisy. Haven't solved that problem yet (just put unit
> > in
> > > at the end of last season). Also need to reduce air flow in head and aft
> > > cabin to increase flow in salon.
> > >
> > > Unit works great (could store a side of beef in the head right now
> > > though!). A nice benefit of this unit is that it uses resistance heat,
> > > which means I can run it on the hard in the winter season if I want to
> > work
> > > on the interior of the boat. Apparently, the US Coast Guard uses the
> > system
> > > on their 47' boats.
> > >
> > > Right now I can run the AC and the microwave, lights, etc without having
> > to
> > > install a separate power supply for just the AC.
> > >
> > > Ben Cares
> > > Catch the Wind #37
> > > Erie, PA
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Kirk Mueller <kirkm753 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone recently installed A/C in their boat.  If so, what type and
> > > > size? Where did they put the unit, the supply ducts and the return?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Kirk Mueller
> > > > Second Chance #361
> > > > Rock Hall, MD
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Ben Cares*
> > > *PHOTOGRAPHICARTS*
> > >
> > > commercialphotography
> > > graphicdesign
> > >
> > > 902 Market Street
> > > Meadville, PA  16335
> > >
> > > 814.333.2990
> > > 814.720.5260 cell
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> *Ben Cares*
> *PHOTOGRAPHICARTS*
> 
> commercialphotography
> graphicdesign
> 
> 902 Market Street
> Meadville, PA  16335
> 
> 814.333.2990
> 814.720.5260 cell
> 
> 
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