[C320-list] Boat lift

[Jerry Taylor]

Don't want to discourage you from installing a lift, but here is my 
experience with them.  Had a 30', 7,000# boat on a 12,000# lift which failed 
three times.  The first was when the swage on the cable broke on the forward 
beam while the boat was going up the first time (contractor error).  The 
second time was when the forward gear plate broke going up a couple of 
months later.  The  third time was when the boat blew over on the outboard 
pilings during a hard blow and eventually broke the pilings off and tore up 
the lift.  The lead keel pounded the 6 inch I-beams and they looks like a 
pretzel!  The boat floated off amazingly with some minor damage, but the 
insurance company totaled it.  The folding prop blades were completely gone, 
just the hub left!  Big boats on lifts are impressive, but with everything 
broke up in the water and your boat is totaled...not so impressive.  There 
are thousands of lifts around the country and there are hundreds of horror 
stories.  I do believe that lifts in Florida have a much better design than 
the one I had and typical of the Chesapeake, but I would only use a lift for 
no more than a 18' runabout.  I'm not sure that I would keep a boat on a 
lift during a hurricane and tide surge...I know folks do, but I wouldn't. 
Besides the cost of the 16k pound lift and custom cradle there are other 
expenses.  You will probably have to get permits, drive outboard or add more 
pilings, run 220v electric.  There is also periodic maintenance with 
greasing, replacing sheaves, belts, pulleys, motors and the ss cables every 
3-4 years at $1,000 a pop!  Divers look pretty cheap to me.  Good luck and 
keep us posted on your decision.

Jerry Taylor
Piper - 1128


-----Original Message----- 
From: Diane Fowler
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:16 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Cc: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Boat lift

Yes, I am 100% sure that I have hard paint. My diver says that the growth 
rate here is just too fast to keep up with, and that having her on the lift 
will be better for racing.  I am getting an estimate on Monday for a 16,000 
pound boatlift with custom cradle.  I will let you know how that goes

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On May 11, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Bruce Heyman <bruceheyman at cox.net> wrote:

> In addition to Allen's points I believe there are many hard and ablative 
> paints that lose their effectiveness if they are exposed to the air for 
> any appreciable time.
>
> I know racers, serious racers, who keep their boats out of the water but 
> it is so that they have no bottom paint, only the very smooth and fast 
> surface from the mold.
>
> We do have a few power boats on submersible floats in Dana Point Harbor 
> but they have no bottom paint.
>
> I wonder if in Florida it is a good way to deal with storm surge?  Given 
> the weight of a 320 assume it would have to be a stout and expensive lift.
>
> Bruce
>
> Bruce Heyman
> (949) 289-8400
>
> Allan S Field <allan.field at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> Diane - I think we need more info but generally speaking, a sailboat 
>> should
>> not have to be on a lift.  The C320's don't blister (except for a small 
>> run
>> back in the late 90's).  But there is a big difference between "hard" 
>> paint
>> and "ablative" paint.  I would suggest 2 things.  The first is to confirm
>> whether or not you have a hard or ablative paint on the bottom.  The 
>> second
>> is to go out to the Interlux website.  There are excellent guides out 
>> there
>> for how to handle bottom painting.  But Sea Shadow, and most boats in CA,
>> stay in the water year round, coming out only for periodic painting (Sea
>> Shadow gets 3 coats of ablative and 5 on the leading edges every 2 years)
>> and then right back in.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Allan S. Field
>> Sea Shadow - #808
>> Columbia, MD
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Diane 
>> Fowler
>> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 9:41 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Cc: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>> Subject: [C320-list] Boat lift
>>
>> We live in Southwest Florida, and yesterday my Diver was over to clean 
>> the
>> bottom. I have e paint from Massachusetts in a hard surface white.   The
>> diver recommends that I put two more coats of the same paint on and keep 
>> the
>> boat on a Lift .  Has anyone Installed a lift? Do you have photos of the
>> custom cradle? Thank you S/v Windy City number 948 Cape Coral Florida
>>
>>


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