[C320-list] Dry Aqualift Muffler
WINDER & KIRONDE
wcwinder at comcast.net
Mon Nov 11 09:08:26 PST 2013
I have recently taken my aqualift muffler out as it was leaking water.
I believe the previous owner did not drain it before the New England
winter so it developed some cracks and when I cranked the engine to
2500 RPMs the exhaust pressure was forcing water out and into the
bilge.
The operation of the muffler box is fairly simple. Sea or raw water
is introduced to the exhaust at the rear end of the manifold just
before the muffler, so there is a large amount of "dirty" exhaust
mixed with sea water entering the muffler box under quite a bit of
pressure. Although the outlet comes off the top of the muffler box
that exit pipe extends down close to the bottom of the box, so the
exhaust pressure very quickly forces the water out of the box up
through the pipe along with the gases. Unless you are excessively
cranking the engine without starting there should only be a small
amount of water in the box.
Has anyone here used a different muffler box such as Vetus? Is there
one that fits? My C320 is a 1994 with a Perkins M30, 29hp engine.
Bill Winder
C320 #0097
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Dry aqua muffler (JJ Morrison)
2. Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system (Don Johnson)
3. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system
(Irving Grunes)
4. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system
(Allan S Field)
5. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system (John
Meyers)
6. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system (Chris
Burti)
7. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system (Roland
Ross)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 20:01:28 +0000
From: JJ Morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
To: Catalina List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
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I removed the water lift on my boat as I thought it was leaking around
the screws which attach it to the platform. It wasn't leaking but
rather was a pesky coolant hose which I later discovered. When I took
the muffler out there was very little water in it. While I had the
muffler out I serviced the drain cock and it now opens and closes
easily. I rarely get more than a half cup out of it. I too would like
to see how these fibreglas lift pots are made?CheersJohnM1999 #574
> From: wupdike at hotmail.com
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 14:18:03 -0500
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
>
> I don't know the internal design. I presume it is a baffled box of
> some sort. Others have removed it in order to fix a leak and
returned
> it to service. Some have returned it to Catalina who made a new one
as
> they are apparently custom made for the available space. As long as
> ours is working it's not high enough on the project list to deal
with.
> I've often thought if I had to take it out, I'd replace it with a
> stock unit like the Vetus Waterlock series. Check Vetus out on the
> web. Perhaps there is someone on this list with a production
muffler/waterlock?
>
> Warren & Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: GREG SUTTON [mailto:sutt47 at msn.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 6:48 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
>
> Thanks Warren, I have tried all those fixes on my boat also with no
success.
>
> I was concerned that part of the muffler is plugged so it's not
> allowing a free flow of water through out it. I am hoping that
> someone would respond with a cross section or a description of how
the
> muffler works to add in the problem's diagnosis. If I make the
effort
> to remove it, can I get it apart or is it sealed?
> Greg
>
> > From: wupdike at hotmail.com
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 17:19:44 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
> >
> > Greg, we also have a 1994, and experience the same condition. I
> > have removed the petcock from the muffler and probed inside with a
coat hanger:
> > nothing. I have opened the petcock while the engine is running:
> > still no indication of expected water or pressure. Last year, I
> > replaced the petcock. It is a standard automotive type. No change.
> > I am stumped why this would be so. Perhaps someone else on the
list knows.
> > The only issue that concerns me is that if the engine is cranked
> > excessively, you are supposed to drain the muffler. It seems this
> > can't be done on our boats. I am careful to not crank the engine
too much.
> > Warren & Pattie Updike
> > 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: GREG SUTTON [mailto:sutt47 at msn.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 9:44 PM
> > To: C320 Int. Association
> > Subject: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
> >
> > I have a 1994 C320 with the Perkins M30 engine. It's my second
year
> > with the boat and during the last two winterization I have opened
> > the aqua muffler drain however nothing has ever drained out. Even
> > during operation there hasn't been any water coming from the drain
> > even though the engine runs at the proper temp and there is always
a
> > good flow of water from the exhaust. Not being familiar with the
> > muffler
> system, is this typical?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Greg Sutton
> > Liberty
> > #128
> >
> >
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 14:09:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system
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I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the mast
in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single handling
the boat.? I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
this.? Thanks much.
?
Don Johnson
#53
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 21:44:53 -0500
From: Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com>
To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system
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When we got our new mainsail from Scott Allen (Formerly UK Sails) in
Annapolis he suggested and we bought a three line dutchman system and
that works perfectly.
He also suggested the Tides slide, which we did not buy, but it is a
wonderful system that will never hang up on the gate9There is none)
Irv Grunes
2001#851
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
mast
> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
handling
> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
this. Thanks much.
>
> Don Johnson
> #53
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 07:58:45 -0500
From: "Allan S Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system
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I did purchase the Strong system about 10 years ago. It made little
difference in hoisting the sail. I believe that the problem that
remains is that the main halyard does not have a straight line from
the base of the mast through the rope clutch and back to the winch.
There is too much friction still as the halyard enters the side of the
rope clutch versus coming through in a straight line. But if one
hoists the main from the mast, a child can do so as my grandson at 8
years old was able to do so without needing the winch. He cannot get
the main up at all from the cockpit though. I would not recommend
purchasing this system for a C320 and not because the system is at
fault but rather the halyard does not have a fair lead back to the
cockpit. That said, it you or crew are OK going up on deck to hoist
the main, go for it!
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving
Grunes
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:45 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system
When we got our new mainsail from Scott Allen (Formerly UK Sails) in
Annapolis he suggested and we bought a three line dutchman system and
that works perfectly.
He also suggested the Tides slide, which we did not buy, but it is a
wonderful system that will never hang up on the gate9There is none)
Irv Grunes
2001#851
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
mast
> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
handling
> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
this.
Thanks much.
>
> Don Johnson
> #53
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 08:24:47 -0500
From: John Meyers <jcmeyers7 at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system
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On my #406 1997 when hauling up the main gets harder, I spray some
SailKote lubricant on the lugs from each side and as far up the luff
track as I can reach. It make a wonderful difference. We typically
raise the main about 40 times a season here in the Great (for sailing)
Lakes and I use that SailKote about 3 time per season.
John Meyers
Wind Chime
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
mast
> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
handling
> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
this. Thanks much.
>
> Don Johnson
> #53
>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 06:11:04 -0800
From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
To: John Meyers <jcmeyers7 at gmail.com>, "C320-List at catalina320.com"
<C320-List at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system
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We do this also. In addition, we thoroughly wet a cotton ball with
Sailkote, stuff it in the mast slot above the headboard slide and
raise the main once a year to clean the slot.
Thanks, Chris Burti From: John Meyers
Sent: 11/8/2013 8:24 AM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system On my #406 1997 when hauling up the main gets harder, I spray
some SailKote lubricant on the lugs from each side and as far up the
luff track as I can reach. It make a wonderful difference. We
typically raise the main about 40 times a season here in the Great
(for sailing) Lakes and I use that SailKote about 3 time per season.
John Meyers
Wind Chime
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
mast
> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
handling
> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
this. Thanks much.
>
> Don Johnson
> #53
>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:12:55 -0500
From: "Roland Ross" <rross at pillerross.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system
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We purchased a "Winchrite", electric winch handle. It worked great
and took all the work out of raising the main. Santa Barbara #914.
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Allan S
Field
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:59 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system
I did purchase the Strong system about 10 years ago. It made little
difference in hoisting the sail. I believe that the problem that
remains is that the main halyard does not have a straight line from
the base of the mast through the rope clutch and back to the winch.
There is too much friction still as the halyard enters the side of the
rope clutch versus coming through in a straight line. But if one
hoists the main from the mast, a child can do so as my grandson at 8
years old was able to do so without needing the winch. He cannot get
the main up at all from the cockpit though. I would not recommend
purchasing this system for a C320 and not because the system is at
fault but rather the halyard does not have a fair lead back to the
cockpit. That said, it you or crew are OK going up on deck to hoist
the main, go for it!
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
[mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving
Grunes
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:45 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
system
When we got our new mainsail from Scott Allen (Formerly UK Sails) in
Annapolis he suggested and we bought a three line dutchman system and
that works perfectly.
He also suggested the Tides slide, which we did not buy, but it is a
wonderful system that will never hang up on the gate9There is none)
Irv Grunes
2001#851
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
mast
> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
handling
> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
this.
Thanks much.
>
> Don Johnson
> #53
>
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