[C320-list] Dry Aqualift Muffler
William Ott
wmo48 at yahoo.com
Mon Nov 11 09:18:52 PST 2013
I have hull #508 so there maybe obvious differences between our boats besides two different engines. The muffler you describe sounds like my design and if so there is nothing out there from a commercial supplier, like Vetus, to solve your problem.
Pull the muffler and re glass is what I did. No problems since.
Mike Ott
'Amanda Lu'
#508
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 11, 2013, at 12:08 PM, "WINDER & KIRONDE" <wcwinder at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I have recently taken my aqualift muffler out as it was leaking water.
> I believe the previous owner did not drain it before the New England
> winter so it developed some cracks and when I cranked the engine to
> 2500 RPMs the exhaust pressure was forcing water out and into the
> bilge.
>
> The operation of the muffler box is fairly simple. Sea or raw water
> is introduced to the exhaust at the rear end of the manifold just
> before the muffler, so there is a large amount of "dirty" exhaust
> mixed with sea water entering the muffler box under quite a bit of
> pressure. Although the outlet comes off the top of the muffler box
> that exit pipe extends down close to the bottom of the box, so the
> exhaust pressure very quickly forces the water out of the box up
> through the pipe along with the gases. Unless you are excessively
> cranking the engine without starting there should only be a small
> amount of water in the box.
>
> Has anyone here used a different muffler box such as Vetus? Is there
> one that fits? My C320 is a 1994 with a Perkins M30, 29hp engine.
>
> Bill Winder
> C320 #0097
>
>
>
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> 1. Re: Dry aqua muffler (JJ Morrison)
> 2. Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system (Don Johnson)
> 3. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system
> (Irving Grunes)
> 4. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system
> (Allan S Field)
> 5. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system (John
> Meyers)
> 6. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system (Chris
> Burti)
> 7. Re: Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system (Roland
> Ross)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 20:01:28 +0000
> From: JJ Morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: Catalina List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
> Message-ID: <BAY172-W2213EBE3A3DB11D724E28AE9F30 at phx.gbl>
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>
> I removed the water lift on my boat as I thought it was leaking around
> the screws which attach it to the platform. It wasn't leaking but
> rather was a pesky coolant hose which I later discovered. When I took
> the muffler out there was very little water in it. While I had the
> muffler out I serviced the drain cock and it now opens and closes
> easily. I rarely get more than a half cup out of it. I too would like
> to see how these fibreglas lift pots are made?CheersJohnM1999 #574
>
>> From: wupdike at hotmail.com
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 14:18:03 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
>>
>> I don't know the internal design. I presume it is a baffled box of
>> some sort. Others have removed it in order to fix a leak and
> returned
>> it to service. Some have returned it to Catalina who made a new one
> as
>> they are apparently custom made for the available space. As long as
>> ours is working it's not high enough on the project list to deal
> with.
>> I've often thought if I had to take it out, I'd replace it with a
>> stock unit like the Vetus Waterlock series. Check Vetus out on the
>> web. Perhaps there is someone on this list with a production
> muffler/waterlock?
>>
>> Warren & Pattie Updike
>> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message-----
>> From: GREG SUTTON [mailto:sutt47 at msn.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 6:48 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
>>
>> Thanks Warren, I have tried all those fixes on my boat also with no
> success.
>>
>> I was concerned that part of the muffler is plugged so it's not
>> allowing a free flow of water through out it. I am hoping that
>> someone would respond with a cross section or a description of how
> the
>> muffler works to add in the problem's diagnosis. If I make the
> effort
>> to remove it, can I get it apart or is it sealed?
>> Greg
>>
>>> From: wupdike at hotmail.com
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2013 17:19:44 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
>>>
>>> Greg, we also have a 1994, and experience the same condition. I
>>> have removed the petcock from the muffler and probed inside with a
> coat hanger:
>>> nothing. I have opened the petcock while the engine is running:
>>> still no indication of expected water or pressure. Last year, I
>>> replaced the petcock. It is a standard automotive type. No change.
>
>>> I am stumped why this would be so. Perhaps someone else on the
> list knows.
>>> The only issue that concerns me is that if the engine is cranked
>>> excessively, you are supposed to drain the muffler. It seems this
>
>>> can't be done on our boats. I am careful to not crank the engine
> too much.
>>> Warren & Pattie Updike
>>> 1994 C320 #62 "Warr De Mar"
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: GREG SUTTON [mailto:sutt47 at msn.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 9:44 PM
>>> To: C320 Int. Association
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Dry aqua muffler
>>>
>>> I have a 1994 C320 with the Perkins M30 engine. It's my second
> year
>>> with the boat and during the last two winterization I have opened
>>> the aqua muffler drain however nothing has ever drained out. Even
>
>>> during operation there hasn't been any water coming from the drain
>
>>> even though the engine runs at the proper temp and there is always
> a
>>> good flow of water from the exhaust. Not being familiar with the
>>> muffler
>> system, is this typical?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Greg Sutton
>>> Liberty
>>> #128
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 14:09:48 -0800 (PST)
> From: Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide system
> Message-ID:
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>
> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the mast
> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single handling
> the boat.? I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
> this.? Thanks much.
> ?
> Don Johnson
> #53
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 21:44:53 -0500
> From: Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system
> Message-ID:
>
> <CAE+H+CJty+Zx9LZrdLOoc2PeZy6TQcFudG-TF-QiUHB9VvE6HQ at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> When we got our new mainsail from Scott Allen (Formerly UK Sails) in
> Annapolis he suggested and we bought a three line dutchman system and
> that works perfectly.
> He also suggested the Tides slide, which we did not buy, but it is a
> wonderful system that will never hang up on the gate9There is none)
> Irv Grunes
> 2001#851
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
>
>> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
> mast
>> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
> handling
>> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
>> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
>> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
> this. Thanks much.
>>
>> Don Johnson
>> #53
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 07:58:45 -0500
> From: "Allan S Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system
> Message-ID: <002b01cedc82$42cddd10$c8699730$@verizon.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> I did purchase the Strong system about 10 years ago. It made little
> difference in hoisting the sail. I believe that the problem that
> remains is that the main halyard does not have a straight line from
> the base of the mast through the rope clutch and back to the winch.
> There is too much friction still as the halyard enters the side of the
> rope clutch versus coming through in a straight line. But if one
> hoists the main from the mast, a child can do so as my grandson at 8
> years old was able to do so without needing the winch. He cannot get
> the main up at all from the cockpit though. I would not recommend
> purchasing this system for a C320 and not because the system is at
> fault but rather the halyard does not have a fair lead back to the
> cockpit. That said, it you or crew are OK going up on deck to hoist
> the main, go for it!
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving
> Grunes
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:45 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system
>
> When we got our new mainsail from Scott Allen (Formerly UK Sails) in
> Annapolis he suggested and we bought a three line dutchman system and
> that works perfectly.
> He also suggested the Tides slide, which we did not buy, but it is a
> wonderful system that will never hang up on the gate9There is none)
> Irv Grunes
> 2001#851
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
>
>> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
> mast
>> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
> handling
>> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
>> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
>> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
> this.
> Thanks much.
>>
>> Don Johnson
>> #53
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 08:24:47 -0500
> From: John Meyers <jcmeyers7 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system
> Message-ID:
>
> <CANEXtrL1gvELuqxKMO5rPidrQw75gFhqM7H9e_WvrMTe2V+XUg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On my #406 1997 when hauling up the main gets harder, I spray some
> SailKote lubricant on the lugs from each side and as far up the luff
> track as I can reach. It make a wonderful difference. We typically
> raise the main about 40 times a season here in the Great (for sailing)
> Lakes and I use that SailKote about 3 time per season.
>
> John Meyers
> Wind Chime
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
>
>> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
> mast
>> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
> handling
>> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
>> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
>> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
> this. Thanks much.
>>
>> Don Johnson
>> #53
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 06:11:04 -0800
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: John Meyers <jcmeyers7 at gmail.com>, "C320-List at catalina320.com"
> <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system
> Message-ID: <-4704841691106772069 at unknownmsgid>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> We do this also. In addition, we thoroughly wet a cotton ball with
> Sailkote, stuff it in the mast slot above the headboard slide and
> raise the main once a year to clean the slot.
>
> Thanks, Chris Burti From: John Meyers
> Sent: 11/8/2013 8:24 AM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system On my #406 1997 when hauling up the main gets harder, I spray
> some SailKote lubricant on the lugs from each side and as far up the
> luff track as I can reach. It make a wonderful difference. We
> typically raise the main about 40 times a season here in the Great
> (for sailing) Lakes and I use that SailKote about 3 time per season.
>
> John Meyers
> Wind Chime
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
>
>> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
> mast
>> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
> handling
>> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
>> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
>> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
> this. Thanks much.
>>
>> Don Johnson
>> #53
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:12:55 -0500
> From: "Roland Ross" <rross at pillerross.com>
> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system
> Message-ID: <003e01cedc95$00617d70$01247850$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> We purchased a "Winchrite", electric winch handle. It worked great
> and took all the work out of raising the main. Santa Barbara #914.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Allan S
> Field
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:59 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system
>
> I did purchase the Strong system about 10 years ago. It made little
> difference in hoisting the sail. I believe that the problem that
> remains is that the main halyard does not have a straight line from
> the base of the mast through the rope clutch and back to the winch.
> There is too much friction still as the halyard enters the side of the
> rope clutch versus coming through in a straight line. But if one
> hoists the main from the mast, a child can do so as my grandson at 8
> years old was able to do so without needing the winch. He cannot get
> the main up at all from the cockpit though. I would not recommend
> purchasing this system for a C320 and not because the system is at
> fault but rather the halyard does not have a fair lead back to the
> cockpit. That said, it you or crew are OK going up on deck to hoist
> the main, go for it!
>
> Allan S. Field
> Sea Shadow - #808
> Columbia, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irving
> Grunes
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:45 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Quantum Sail Pack and Strong Track/slide
> system
>
> When we got our new mainsail from Scott Allen (Formerly UK Sails) in
> Annapolis he suggested and we bought a three line dutchman system and
> that works perfectly.
> He also suggested the Tides slide, which we did not buy, but it is a
> wonderful system that will never hang up on the gate9There is none)
> Irv Grunes
> 2001#851
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Don Johnson <donjohn64 at att.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking at adding a Quantum Sails "Sail Pack" (not sure of their
>
>> name for it) to the boom, and a Strong Track/slide system to the
> mast
>> in order to be better able to raise/lower the main for single
> handling
>> the boat. I have talked to a few people in the Long Beach marinas,
>> but I am wondering if any of you have added either or both to your
>> 320, and how do you like them. I would appreciate any feedback on
> this.
> Thanks much.
>>
>> Don Johnson
>> #53
>
>
>
>
>
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