[C320-list] VC17 - how many cans? - now Weep holes

[Irving Grunes]

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On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Elizabeth Schwartz <
schwartz781 at optonline.net> wrote:

> Ahoy Larry.....and thanks.....I do have the drawings from Catalina.....I
> wanted to know if there were any unforeseen problems drilling these holes
> in the floor timbers. If this fix allows most of the standing water to pass
> through, it would be a big improvement. Thanks...Joe
>
>
>  On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Larry Frank wrote:
>
>  > Hi Elizabeth,
>
>>
>> We have hull number 246!
>>
>> I don¹t think I have seen an answer to your weep hole question.  I did
>> drill the weep holes.  Catalina sent me a drawing of where they
>> recommended the holes be drilled.  If you want me to send it to you I
>> think I need a different email address because I believe the mail server
>> removes attachments.  The holes do not work perfectly.  What I mean by
>> that is to remove 100% of the water I need to insert a hose connected to a
>> wet vac and vacuum it out.
>>
>> Larry WindSwept C320 #246
>>
>> On 3/21/14, 7:43 AM, "Elizabeth Schwartz" wrote:
>>
>>  ahoy all.....I'm new to the C 320 group. Recently purchased 1995 hull
>>> #245. Can someone send me a photo of the location of the holding tank
>>> macerator discharge thru hull, that best allows for holding tank removal
>>> if necessary?  Also, has anyone drilled out weep holes in the "hollow"
>>> floor grid structure? Thanks.....Joe
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 06:46 AM, John Meyers wrote:
>>>
>>>  Here is another hint that will reduce evaporation in the roller pan.
>>>>
>>> Cover
>>>
>>>> the pan with a board while rolling onto the boat. I do it with 2 cans.
>>>>
>>>> John Meyers
>>>> Muskegon MI
>>>> Wind Chime
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:59 PM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com <
>>>> tharrison at innovations-plus.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Bill this was excellent information. I may be able to reduce my vc17
>>>>> use
>>>>> by 1 can.
>>>>>
>>>>> When you say cover to you mean the roller. Like a 13mm split form
>>>>> nap?
>>>>>
>>>>> When do you change covers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Ted hull 424
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:26 PM, Bill Culbertson
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hmmm.  I'm on Lake Erie and I've put on VC17 for 13 years (6 times).
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>
>>>>> always use 2.5 cans.  I use a roller from a pan and I don't dilute.
>>>>> I put
>>>>> on one coat every other year.  I "prep" the surface with a wet brush
>>>>> to get
>>>>> loose stuff off and let it dry.  The key is to do it quickly.  You
>>>>> pour a
>>>>> very small amount (compared to if you were house painting or
>>>>> Alblative
>>>>> bottom painting) into the pan - maybe such that the liquid extends
>>>>> about 3"
>>>>> from the deepest part of the pan up toward the shallow end or about
>>>>> 1.5 to
>>>>> 2.0 roller widths.  I use a 7" roller (I've used the recommended 4"
>>>>> but I
>>>>> get better results with 7").  Do not use a cheap cover.  Get it all
>>>>> onto
>>>>> the roller quickly and evenly - 2 or 3 swipes. If the roller can't
>>>>> hold it
>>>>> all, then pour less next time.  Then get that load onto the boat
>>>>> quickly.
>>>>> Getting that rollerful onto the boat takes me maybe 7 seconds or so.
>>>>> I
>>>>> think (from memory) that it is about 1.5 - 2.0 sq ft or so.  Then
>>>>>
>>>>>> repeat.  I stir a lot - nearly every time I pour. Don't let any of
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>> sit in the pan for any time.  What goes into the pan stays in the pan
>>>>> for
>>>>> only as long as it takes to get it onto the roller.  For the whole
>>>>> bottom I
>>>>> think I tend to use about 3 covers.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One other trick I started doing recently as my back started
>>>>>> complaining
>>>>>>
>>>>> more the last few years :).  I used to do the entire bottom front to
>>>>> back.
>>>>>  Seemed obvious.  But now-a-days I do the nose (which really has no
>>>>> flat
>>>>> bottom surface) and then only the flat bottom surface front to back.
>>>>> Like
>>>>> painting a ceiling in a crawl space I tell my friends. I use knee
>>>>> pads and
>>>>> am on my knees most of the time unless it is too high.  I have a
>>>>> small
>>>>> plastic foot stool that I sit on when I can do so and still reach.
>>>>> The
>>>>> flat bottom part is the most uncomfortable for me.  After doing the
>>>>> entire
>>>>> flat bottom part then I pull out the stool and do the keel which is
>>>>> quite
>>>>> comfortable.  Then I do the rudder mostly standing which is
>>>>> moderately
>>>>> comfortable except for the lower part which I sometimes do sitting.
>>>>> Now
>>>>> comes the easy and comfortable part.  I go back to the nose and do
>>>>> the
>>>>> sides while standing.  I join the painted flat bottom part up to the
>>>>> boot
>>>>> stripe
>>>>>
>>>>>> tape.  I'm standing upright the whole time and it is quite
>>>>>> comfortable.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Which is good because by that time my back is killing me from doing
>>>>> the
>>>>> earlier stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I used to do it all front to back, I found the area aft of the
>>>>>> keel
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hell-on-wheels. First, there is a LOT of flat bottom area back there
>>>>> and
>>>>> second, by then I'm pretty sore already with lots of boat left to
>>>>> paint.  I
>>>>> used to think I was halfway done when I'd gotten to the back of the
>>>>> keel.
>>>>>  Now I don't think so given the boat shape.  The new scheme although
>>>>> odd
>>>>> and non-intuitive has worked out really well for me and my back these
>>>>> last
>>>>> few times.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -bill culbertson
>>>>>>   Harmony #859
>>>>>>   Western Lake Erie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: "bkuether at comcast.net" To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on the temperature and how you apply.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are pouring the VC into a pan and rolling it on, I would say
>>>>>>
>>>>> three.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are squirting the VC onto a roller, I once did my 320 with 2
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>
>>>>>> was tight!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you are using a pan and its hot out?  3.5 to 4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Marek Fluder
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:35 PM
>>>>>> To: C320-list at catalina320.com
>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] VC17 - how many cans?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The highly anticipated time is coming after the long winter...
>>>>>> If you use VC17 on your bottom, how many cans it usually takes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Marek Fluder
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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