[C320-list] Boom Vang Hydraulic Spring

[Jeff Hare]

Hull 809 with Garhauer boom vang easily supports our boom with the sail on
it.  When released it springs up fairly high.  So, it's likely that the
attachment point on the boom is further aft on yours than ours.

There was a discussion way back where there was a discussion of removing the
black cap(?) and stop from the vang, sliding in a short section of pvc pipe
to change the spring tension and/or limit the amount of downward travel
allowed.  I believe Garhauer weighed in on this.  I was considering it
because I wanted to be sure that my boom couldn't be pulled down so low that
it would hit the dodger when tacking or gybing across a run or broad reach
in heavy air.

With the topping lift, we never allow ours to flap.  We always take up the
slack or release a little based on the set of the sail, so in 13 seasons,
there's only been one or two times it's ever hung up on the aft triangle.

-Jeff 

-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Andrew Santangelo
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 10:39 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Boom Vang Hydraulic Spring

Hello All,

Actually Dawn Treader is lower than #600 (mine is #333).  The spring loaded
vang on her easily supports the boom and sail, and keeps it above the dodger
without a problem.

Yes, the topping lift on our vessel was used for the Dutchman system and
keeping the boom elevated higher than the vang normally does when at the
slip or under power.  However since going to racing sails the Dutchman
system and topping lift were removed.  Now we use the main halyard to keep
the boom elevated when the main is not in use.

Andrew Santangelo

C320 "Dawn Treader"
#333
Holland, MI

J22 "Blitzkrieg"
Elephant Butte, New Mexico




On May 30, 2014, at 8:23 AM, tharrison at innovations-plus.com wrote:

> I am in agreement with Warren. I have hull 424 with the same issue. 
> 
> The boom vang does not support the boom. 
> 
> I think it should. The boat is new to me at thought it was my lack of
understanding! 
> 
> Ted
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 30, 2014, at 9:55 AM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So far, all of the Boom Vang related posts are from hulls 600 and 
>> later. I suspect these hulls all have the Selden mast/boom. We have 
>> 62 with the older
>> (non-Selden) mast/boom and our vang has never supported the boom. I'm 
>> wondering if it ever did. Can anyone with the original mast/boom tell 
>> me if I should expect the vang to support the boom? If so, has anyone 
>> had to replace the internal spring mechanism?
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Warren and Pattie Updike
>> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen Kaplan [mailto:stepkap at pacbell.net]
>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 12:14 AM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Boom Vang Hydraulic Spring
>> 
>> Definitely getting the believe that my vang has never worked properly.
>> Appreciate the input. 
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Sloat <resloat at comcast.net>
>> Sender: "C320-list" <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com>
>> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 21:17:14
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com<C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Reply-To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Boom Vang Hydraulic Spring
>> 
>> Steve-The boom vang is spring loaded on my hull 894 and yours is 
>> probably the same.  I use the topping lift for the Dutchman flaking 
>> system.  The vang easily holds up the main without the need for a 
>> topping lift so your vang must be broken or maybe there is some 
>> adjustment for loading the vang spring.  I think it is Gaurhauer and 
>> they may have some input on adjustment or repair.  When the solid vang is
working.
>> 
>>> On May 29, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Stephen Kaplan <stepkap at pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fellow sailors,
>>> After twice having the topping lift wrap around and hang-up on the 
>>> back
>> stay
>>> "V" causing damage to the boom vang saddle fasteners on the mast I 
>>> have taken to sailing w/o the topping lift.  Removes the worry of 
>>> the wrap occurring on the rather vigorous tacks common on San Francisco
Bay.
>>> However the Boom Vang hydraulic spring does not hold or lift up the 
>>> boom when furling or unfurling the main. Thus requires a crew to 
>>> hold the boom
>> to
>>> keep it from smashing into the helm pedestal/instrument cluster.  Is 
>>> this the normal situation or has the hydraulic cylinder lost its oomph?
>>> 
>>> Steve Kaplan
>>> Saline
>>> Hull 980
>>> San Francisco
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Dick Walker
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 5:30 PM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Best place to attach cockpit radio 
>>> extension mic
>>> 
>>> On pod since 2000 and just fine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Dick Walker
>>> 740 Olive Ave.
>>> Coronado ,CA 92118
>>> 619.435.8986
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 28, 2014, at 17:22, Mark Gillingham <markgill at uwalumni.com>
wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I attached an extension mic in the cockpit on port just between the 
>>>> lids for the propane well and the settee. That's not too bad for 
>>>> the the helmsman, but is in the way of crew working or sitting nearby.
>>>> Before the end of the first season a crewman kicked the connector 
>>>> and rendered it useless.
>>>> 
>>>> I've considered moving it to the instrument pod, but it is very 
>>>> difficult to get around the wheel to get to the mic. I think my 
>>>> best move is to leave it where it is and reinforce or add a shield 
>>>> do the
>>> connector.
>>>> 
>>>> What have others done?
>>>> 
>>>> Speakeasy #612
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Gillingham | gplus.to/MarkGillingham | Support a struggling 
>>>> student<http://101010scholarship.info>
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>> 
>> Bob Sloat
>> Savannah 894 (2002)
>> Waukegan Harbor, IL
>> 
>>