[C320-list] C320 boat list

Wed Oct 1 13:02:36 PDT 2014

John, I think you are absolutely correct!!   I just hadn't realized it yet.
Gary
On 10/1/2014 11:15 AM, John Meyers wrote:
> I may have the reason there is a port list..... It might be a clever
> design...... The dinner table is on the starboard side and when we are
> sitting there eating the boat is on even keel and the soup doesn't spill
> over the side of the bowl.
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Martin Rosenberg <
> martinlrosenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Last year when I priced 4D batteries, the prices were all in the
>> neighborhood
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:20 AM, <millers1 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This has been an interesting discussion.   As I noted in an earlier
>> e-mail
>>> I have no list on
>>> #680, but the PO had installed a 3rd 4D battery  (Wt appox.115#, cost
>>> approx $215) .
>>> Using Tony's comment below:  a 5# ingot of lead costs approx. $20, so 64#
>>> of lead would
>>> cost about... $260...... Hummmm, maybe the PO of my boat was doing more
>>> than just
>>> adding reserve battery capacity. ????
>>>
>>> Art
>>> S/V  Liberty
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tony Murphy <tony at midwestphysics.com>
>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 1, 2014 8:50 am
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 boat list
>>>
>>>
>>> Lead is roughly 0.4 pounds per cubic inch.  So roughly 64 pounds for 160
>>> cubic
>>> inches.
>>>
>>> Tony
>>> #886
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Elizabeth Schwartz <
>> schwartz781 at optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ahoy.......20x16x1/2=160 cubic inches.......anyone know how much that
>>> amount
>>> of lead weighs?...Joe...#245
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Gary Magnuson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just to add another comment about our 320 port list, It was apparent
>> on
>>> a
>>> 2008, three boat trip to Isle Royale. A C&C 30, and a Cape Dory 30,
>> offered
>>> confirmation, while at anchor, that yes, I list to port.. I assured them
>>> that
>>> she sailed just fine, and had no problem keeping up, or accommodating our
>>> friends, for the evening meals. When I replaced my 4d's I used a salvaged
>>> lead
>>> sheet about 20 inches, by 16 inches by 1/2 inch thick, to lay along side
>>> the
>>> battery tray on the starboard side.  It tucks up under the seat, and
>> seems
>>> to
>>> have brought her in line with the other masts along the headed dock in
>> the
>>> Apostle Islands Marina.  When viewed from the parking lot, my 320 was
>>> always out
>>> of alignment until my modification.  Now no one notices any difference,
>>> and the
>>> cocktail hour commentary has progressed to other topics.  As my wife
>> tells
>>> me,
>>> "Just Deal with it".
>>>>> Gary Magnuson
>>>>> Time A Weigh,  #205
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/30/2014 9:00 PM, Chris Burti wrote:
>>>>>> They were formerly made in California...maybe its just a little left
>>>>>> coast lean...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Chris BurtiFrom: Bob and Barb Uhlman
>>>>>> Sent: ‎9/‎30/‎2014 8:12 PM
>>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 boat list
>>>>>> We used to have a Catalina 28 and it listed to port also.  Maybe all
>>>>>> Catalina's list to port?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barb Uhlman
>>>>>> Whisper, 1158
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:14 PM, Jeff Hare  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're a polite bunch.  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Allan S Field
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:09 PM
>>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 boat list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My waterline is OK as I moved it up about 2 inches several years ago.
>>> Got
>>>>>> tired of scraping the barnacles where there was no  bottom paint; now
>>> there
>>>>>> is bottom paint!  I sacrificed most of the blue stripe at the bottom
>>> but so
>>>>>> far, no other person has ever noticed the difference unless I point
>> it
>>> out!
>>>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Elizabeth Schwartz
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Ahoy.....#245 has a noticable list to port.......the waterline to
>>> port is
>>>>>> visably lower in the water.....Joe...
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 02:52 PM, millers1 at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allan,
>>>>>>>> I did, and it just stays in a puddle.  The boat looks perfect from
>>>>>>>> astern, ahead and athwart ships., even sighting the mast, etc.....
>>> she is
>>>>>> on her her lines.
>>>>>>>> As I noted in an earlier e-mail, the PO installed a 3rd, 4D battery
>>>>>> (120#) on the starboard side.
>>>>>>>> With out that weight she may lean to Port(?).
>>>>>>>> Something must be off center, because with the: house batteries,
>>> head,
>>>>>> aft water tnk. and fuel tnk. all on the Stbd side one would expect a
>>> list to
>>>>>> Starboard (?), not Port.
>>>>>>>> It is hard to prove , because of variable conditions, but  when on
>> a
>>> Port
>>>>>> or Starboard tack, my boat is faster on Starboard.
>>>>>>>> Lets see how your off-ctr. comment stands up on the forum!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Art    #680
>>>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Allan S Field To: C320-List Sent: Tue, Sep 30, 2014 1:26 pm
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 boat list
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spill a little bit of water on the counter to the right of the
>> galley
>>>>>> faucet and see which way the water runs.  If it does not run to
>> port, I
>>>>>> doubt you have a C320!  Seriously though, my sense after 13 years
>> with
>>> the
>>>>>> boat is that the list is not a weight problem but rather the original
>>> mold
>>>>>> was off center.  Just my opinion but I am sticking with it until
>> proven
>>>>>> wrong!
>>>>>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Millers  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I have heard people mention a boat list.  Which way does the boat
>>>>>>>>> list, if it
>>>>>>>> has a list??  My hull #680 has no visible list.  The PO did
>> install a
>>>>>> third 4D battery on the Stbd. Side.
>>>>>>>>> Art
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Amiraults Family  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jeff:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would think an additional 9 gallons of diesel would be a boon
>> for
>>>>>>>>>> a few, but for those of us who mainly motor out of harbor and
>> back
>>>>>>>>>> in after a sail
>>>>>>>>>> - not so much. With the short season before putting Bear on the
>>>>>>>>>> hard, I usually use less than a half tank as it is. Thus the
>>>>>>>>>> diesel, although diluted with new in the fall, is generally
>> growing
>>>>>>>>>> older and older. It gets a stabilizer and biocide but I still
>>> wonder..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure would like to lose the list, though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Brian Amirault
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 797 Waltzing Bear, too
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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