[C320-list] C320 boat list

Wed Oct 1 19:19:58 PDT 2014

Hi Martin,   I bought mine through Interstate They were marine Deep Cycle.

On 10/1/2014 8:06 PM, Martin Rosenberg wrote:
> Hey, I just noticed a glitch in my last message. The end got dropped. What
> I meant to say was:
> Last year when I priced 4D batteries, the prices were all in the
> neighborhood of $500. Can anyone point me to the source for the $215
> batteries?
> Martin Rosenberg
> Avalon  #823
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Brian Borchers <slaintec320 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> 50 to 75 pounds of recycled lead shot took care of my problem!!   Each bag
>> is small and fits nicely in a tight area.
>>
>> http://www.rotometals.com/product-p/lead_shot_reclaim_clean.htm
>>
>> BKB
>> # 608
>> Slainte
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 12:53 PM, Dean Vermeire <dean at vermeire.us> wrote:
>>
>>> Close.  I think it is for when I am sitting at the table eating, the
>> boat stays level.  That way, people don't see the boat listing to
>> starboard, see me at the table, and say out loud, "hasn't he already had
>> enough to eat?"
>>> Dean
>>>
>>> On 10/1/2014 11:15 AM, John Meyers wrote:
>>>> I may have the reason there is a port list..... It might be a clever
>>>> design...... The dinner table is on the starboard side and when we are
>>>> sitting there eating the boat is on even keel and the soup doesn't spill
>>>> over the side of the bowl.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Martin Rosenberg <
>>>> martinlrosenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Last year when I priced 4D batteries, the prices were all in the
>>>>> neighborhood
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:20 AM, <millers1 at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This has been an interesting discussion.   As I noted in an earlier
>>>>> e-mail
>>>>>> I have no list on
>>>>>> #680, but the PO had installed a 3rd 4D battery  (Wt appox.115#, cost
>>>>>> approx $215) .
>>>>>> Using Tony's comment below:  a 5# ingot of lead costs approx. $20, so
>> 64#
>>>>>> of lead would
>>>>>> cost about... $260...... Hummmm, maybe the PO of my boat was doing
>> more
>>>>>> than just
>>>>>> adding reserve battery capacity. ????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art
>>>>>> S/V  Liberty
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Tony Murphy <tony at midwestphysics.com>
>>>>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Wed, Oct 1, 2014 8:50 am
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 boat list
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lead is roughly 0.4 pounds per cubic inch.  So roughly 64 pounds for
>> 160
>>>>>> cubic
>>>>>> inches.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony
>>>>>> #886
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2014, at 6:51 AM, Elizabeth Schwartz <
>>>>> schwartz781 at optonline.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ahoy.......20x16x1/2=160 cubic inches.......anyone know how much that
>>>>>> amount
>>>>>> of lead weighs?...Joe...#245
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:09 PM, Gary Magnuson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to add another comment about our 320 port list, It was apparent
>>>>> on
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> 2008, three boat trip to Isle Royale. A C&C 30, and a Cape Dory 30,
>>>>> offered
>>>>>> confirmation, while at anchor, that yes, I list to port.. I assured
>> them
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> she sailed just fine, and had no problem keeping up, or accommodating
>> our
>>>>>> friends, for the evening meals. When I replaced my 4d's I used a
>> salvaged
>>>>>> lead
>>>>>> sheet about 20 inches, by 16 inches by 1/2 inch thick, to lay along
>> side
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> battery tray on the starboard side.  It tucks up under the seat, and
>>>>> seems
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have brought her in line with the other masts along the headed dock in
>>>>> the
>>>>>> Apostle Islands Marina.  When viewed from the parking lot, my 320 was
>>>>>> always out
>>>>>> of alignment until my modification.  Now no one notices any
>> difference,
>>>>>> and the
>>>>>> cocktail hour commentary has progressed to other topics.  As my wife
>>>>> tells
>>>>>> me,
>>>>>> "Just Deal with it".
>>>>>>>> Gary Magnuson
>>>>>>>> Time A Weigh,  #205
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/30/2014 9:00 PM, Chris Burti wrote:
>>>>>>>>> They were formerly made in California...maybe its just a little
>> left
>>>>>>>>> coast lean...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Chris BurtiFrom: Bob and Barb Uhlman
>>>>>>>>> Sent: ‎9/‎30/‎2014 8:12 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 boat list
>>>>>>>>> We used to have a Catalina 28 and it listed to port also.  Maybe
>> all
>>>>>>>>> Catalina's list to port?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Barb Uhlman
>>>>>>>>> Whisper, 1158
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:14 PM, Jeff Hare  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We're a polite bunch.  :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com]
>> On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>>>>> Of Allan S Field
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:09 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 boat list
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My waterline is OK as I moved it up about 2 inches several years
>> ago.
>>>>>> Got
>>>>>>>>> tired of scraping the barnacles where there was no  bottom paint;
>> now
>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> is bottom paint!  I sacrificed most of the blue stripe at the
>> bottom
>>>>>> but so
>>>>>>>>> far, no other person has ever noticed the difference unless I point
>>>>> it
>>>>>> out!
>>>>>>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Elizabeth Schwartz
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Ahoy.....#245 has a noticable list to port.......the waterline to
>>>>>> port is
>>>>>>>>> visably lower in the water.....Joe...
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 02:52 PM, millers1 at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Allan,
>>>>>>>>>>> I did, and it just stays in a puddle.  The boat looks perfect
>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> astern, ahead and athwart ships., even sighting the mast,
>> etc.....
>>>>>> she is
>>>>>>>>> on her her lines.
>>>>>>>>>>> As I noted in an earlier e-mail, the PO installed a 3rd, 4D
>> battery
>>>>>>>>> (120#) on the starboard side.
>>>>>>>>>>> With out that weight she may lean to Port(?).
>>>>>>>>>>> Something must be off center, because with the: house batteries,
>>>>>> head,
>>>>>>>>> aft water tnk. and fuel tnk. all on the Stbd side one would expect
>> a
>>>>>> list to
>>>>>>>>> Starboard (?), not Port.
>>>>>>>>>>> It is hard to prove , because of variable conditions, but  when
>> on
>>>>> a
>>>>>> Port
>>>>>>>>> or Starboard tack, my boat is faster on Starboard.
>>>>>>>>>>> Lets see how your off-ctr. comment stands up on the forum!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Art    #680
>>>>>>>>>>>   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Allan S Field To: C320-List Sent: Tue, Sep 30, 2014 1:26 pm
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] C320 boat list
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Spill a little bit of water on the counter to the right of the
>>>>> galley
>>>>>>>>> faucet and see which way the water runs.  If it does not run to
>>>>> port, I
>>>>>>>>> doubt you have a C320!  Seriously though, my sense after 13 years
>>>>> with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> boat is that the list is not a weight problem but rather the
>> original
>>>>>> mold
>>>>>>>>> was off center.  Just my opinion but I am sticking with it until
>>>>> proven
>>>>>>>>> wrong!
>>>>>>>>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Millers  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have heard people mention a boat list.  Which way does the
>> boat
>>>>>>>>>>>> list, if it
>>>>>>>>>>> has a list??  My hull #680 has no visible list.  The PO did
>>>>> install a
>>>>>>>>> third 4D battery on the Stbd. Side.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Art
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2014, at 5:41 PM, Amiraults Family  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would think an additional 9 gallons of diesel would be a boon
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a few, but for those of us who mainly motor out of harbor and
>>>>> back
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in after a sail
>>>>>>>>>>>>> - not so much. With the short season before putting Bear on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard, I usually use less than a half tank as it is. Thus the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> diesel, although diluted with new in the fall, is generally
>>>>> growing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> older and older. It gets a stabilizer and biocide but I still
>>>>>> wonder..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure would like to lose the list, though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Amirault
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 797 Waltzing Bear, too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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