[C320-list] Replacement of Jib Halyard

[Dennis Harris]

Regarding Strength of Duct Tape:

Our house is two story with steep roof.  Some years ago, I had a chimney 
sweep installing a metal cover over the chimney top.  His ladders were not 
long enough to lay on the steep roof, so to reach the chimney, he joined two 
ladders together with duct tape and proceeded to do the job. I was highly 
alarmed at the way he joined the ladders.  He reassured me that it was going 
to work ok and that he did it all the time.  I guess he was correct, since 
he recently died at 92 (not by falling) after a long career as a chimney 
sweep.  Of course, just to be on the safe side, when I replaced my halyards, 
I sewed the butt ends of old and new together, then wrapped the joint 
spirally with duct tape, being careful not to make the joint too stiff, nor 
the diameter much larger than than the line.  As with others, it worked 
fine.

Dennis Harris  C-320  #694

-----Original Message----- 
From: millers1 at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:17 AM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement of Jib Halyard


Everyone,  Thanks for the ideas and help on this issue.
Art


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Hare <Catalina at thehares.com>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement of Jib Halyard


My experience differs with Gene's and agrees with Chris's I guess.

I've
replaced 3 of mine over the years.  Just End-to-End the old and new lines, 
roll
it up like fine cigar (like Chris mentioned) in a length of decent quality 
duct
tape and go.  We replaced our stock main halyard with a really stiff high 
tech
line that hates to bend and still this wasn't a problem. In my opinion, 
Rigging
tape for this technique is a bad choice, as is Gorilla tape.  Rigging tape 
tears
too easily and Gorilla tape is too stiff and not as sticky as 3M duct tape.
This worked smoothly enough for me that I don't recall even feeling when the 
new
line crosses over the blocks at the top of the mast.

I personally wouldn't
recommend a chase string because I think this has a higher likelihood of 
coming
off the blocks and getting wedged or snagged somewhere.  I'd stick with a 
line
that's large enough to not wedge between the blocks and the mast if you need 
to
do that for some reason. Loops that might get hung up on something inside 
the
mast spook me also, but that's just me.

I pull electrical wire with this
technique and end up just cutting that part off rather than trying to fight 
with
separating the tape from the wire.

BTW, If you do this with a foot of duct
tape rolled lengthwise along the line and can break it apart with your bare
hands without popping a blood vessel in your forehead, I'll have to bow to 
your
strength!  :)

Aside from that however, how much force do you think you need
to pull a single line with no weight on it up the mast?  It takes me about 2
fingers worth of strength to do the job.  On the other hand if you use so 
much
tape that this section is stiff as a board, or has a giant lump, then that's 
not
going to work anyway.  You're talking a few pounds of force max.

If your
shives are seized up and you're dragging the line over frozen blocks, I'd 
guess
you have another problem to tend to first anyway.  :)


Cheers!
-Jeff

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Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 10:04 PM
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Halyard

I have simply used 10” of duct tape applied carefully like rolling a
j…uh…cigarette for decades. A little WD-40 to get the tape residue off. Done
neatly, you simply are not strong enough to pull it apart and it rolls over 
the
sheaves with no problems. I have new ones on board ready to nstall as soon 
as I
get a chance.


CB

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From: Gene Helfman
Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎April‎ ‎13‎, ‎2015
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In a belt, suspenders,
and lifeline approach to avoiding disconnecting old and new halyards 
somewhere
inside the mast, in addition to tape and sewing, I burn/melt both ends and 
bond
them together.  You may lose a couple of inches off the new one after but 
it's
worth it.

gene

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Irving Grunes
<igrunes at gmail.com> wrote:

> Make sure you sew the ends together of the new
and old halyard.
> Just taping will not run over the sheaves Irv Grunes Former
#861
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:52 PM, <millers1 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> > My mast is installed.  My hull number is #680.  The jib halyard
>
> needs to be replaced.
> > The C320 book calls for 3/8 low-stretch, 115'.
> >
I will order a 120' length with the shakel attached.
> > Anything I need to be
aware of???? in ordering the halyard???
> > Also, with the mast up, the old
halyard will be removed and the new
> > one installed.
> > Any preferred way
of doing this...ideas welcome.
> > Thanks.
> > Art
> >
> >
>
>
>



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