[C320-list] Replacement of Jib Halyard

[JJ Morrison]

I use Magic Wrap. It's like electrical tape but stretches to twice it's length and sort of vulcanizes to  itself making a very strong joint. I always have a roll aboard, good for temp repairs to leaking hoses, electrical work etc etc.cheersJohnM1999#574

> From: dharris02 at suddenlink.net
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 10:24:15 -0400
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement of Jib Halyard
> 
> Regarding Strength of Duct Tape:
> 
> Our house is two story with steep roof.  Some years ago, I had a chimney 
> sweep installing a metal cover over the chimney top.  His ladders were not 
> long enough to lay on the steep roof, so to reach the chimney, he joined two 
> ladders together with duct tape and proceeded to do the job. I was highly 
> alarmed at the way he joined the ladders.  He reassured me that it was going 
> to work ok and that he did it all the time.  I guess he was correct, since 
> he recently died at 92 (not by falling) after a long career as a chimney 
> sweep.  Of course, just to be on the safe side, when I replaced my halyards, 
> I sewed the butt ends of old and new together, then wrapped the joint 
> spirally with duct tape, being careful not to make the joint too stiff, nor 
> the diameter much larger than than the line.  As with others, it worked 
> fine.
> 
> Dennis Harris  C-320  #694
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: millers1 at aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 9:17 AM
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement of Jib Halyard
> 
> 
> Everyone,  Thanks for the ideas and help on this issue.
> Art
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Hare <Catalina at thehares.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Mon, Apr 13, 2015 11:03 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement of Jib Halyard
> 
> 
> My experience differs with Gene's and agrees with Chris's I guess.
> 
> I've
> replaced 3 of mine over the years.  Just End-to-End the old and new lines, 
> roll
> it up like fine cigar (like Chris mentioned) in a length of decent quality 
> duct
> tape and go.  We replaced our stock main halyard with a really stiff high 
> tech
> line that hates to bend and still this wasn't a problem. In my opinion, 
> Rigging
> tape for this technique is a bad choice, as is Gorilla tape.  Rigging tape 
> tears
> too easily and Gorilla tape is too stiff and not as sticky as 3M duct tape.
> This worked smoothly enough for me that I don't recall even feeling when the 
> new
> line crosses over the blocks at the top of the mast.
> 
> I personally wouldn't
> recommend a chase string because I think this has a higher likelihood of 
> coming
> off the blocks and getting wedged or snagged somewhere.  I'd stick with a 
> line
> that's large enough to not wedge between the blocks and the mast if you need 
> to
> do that for some reason. Loops that might get hung up on something inside 
> the
> mast spook me also, but that's just me.
> 
> I pull electrical wire with this
> technique and end up just cutting that part off rather than trying to fight 
> with
> separating the tape from the wire.
> 
> BTW, If you do this with a foot of duct
> tape rolled lengthwise along the line and can break it apart with your bare
> hands without popping a blood vessel in your forehead, I'll have to bow to 
> your
> strength!  :)
> 
> Aside from that however, how much force do you think you need
> to pull a single line with no weight on it up the mast?  It takes me about 2
> fingers worth of strength to do the job.  On the other hand if you use so 
> much
> tape that this section is stiff as a board, or has a giant lump, then that's 
> not
> going to work anyway.  You're talking a few pounds of force max.
> 
> If your
> shives are seized up and you're dragging the line over frozen blocks, I'd 
> guess
> you have another problem to tend to first anyway.  :)
> 
> 
> Cheers!
> -Jeff
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list
> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
> clburti at gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 10:04 PM
> To:
> C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Replacement of Jib
> Halyard
> 
> I have simply used 10” of duct tape applied carefully like rolling a
> j…uh…cigarette for decades. A little WD-40 to get the tape residue off. Done
> neatly, you simply are not strong enough to pull it apart and it rolls over 
> the
> sheaves with no problems. I have new ones on board ready to nstall as soon 
> as I
> get a chance.
> 
> 
> CB
> 
> Commitment, #867
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Windows
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> 
> From: Gene Helfman
> Sent: ‎Monday‎, ‎April‎ ‎13‎, ‎2015
> ‎10‎:‎03‎ ‎PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> In a belt, suspenders,
> and lifeline approach to avoiding disconnecting old and new halyards 
> somewhere
> inside the mast, in addition to tape and sewing, I burn/melt both ends and 
> bond
> them together.  You may lose a couple of inches off the new one after but 
> it's
> worth it.
> 
> gene
> 
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Irving Grunes
> <igrunes at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Make sure you sew the ends together of the new
> and old halyard.
> > Just taping will not run over the sheaves Irv Grunes Former
> #861
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 12:52 PM, <millers1 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > My mast is installed.  My hull number is #680.  The jib halyard
> >
> > needs to be replaced.
> > > The C320 book calls for 3/8 low-stretch, 115'.
> > >
> I will order a 120' length with the shakel attached.
> > > Anything I need to be
> aware of???? in ordering the halyard???
> > > Also, with the mast up, the old
> halyard will be removed and the new
> > > one installed.
> > > Any preferred way
> of doing this...ideas welcome.
> > > Thanks.
> > > Art
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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