[C320-list] Wing vs Fin

John Meyers jcmeyers7 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 17 05:22:58 PDT 2015


Out of curiosity, how many square inches of vertical area does the fin keel
have over the wing keel?

John Meyers
Wind Chime #406
Wing keel
Muskgeon Michigan, where the water levels are way above average this year

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 10:34 PM, <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have had  two rudder posts bent on our wing keel 2001 #867. Unique
> circumstances that really are unrelated to the length of the rudder in my
> opinion. In the process of ordering my newest rudder, I discovered that
> Catalina’s specs are now 4 inches shorter than my current and the OEM
> rudders. Interestingly, my current rudder is the same length as the current
> fin keel rudder spec.
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> I emailed Gerry Douglas about this, but received no response.
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> Best Regards,
> Chris Burti
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> From: Gene Helfman
> Sent: ‎Thursday‎, ‎July‎ ‎16‎, ‎2015 ‎8‎:‎40‎ ‎PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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> When shopping a few years ago for a C320, we sought advice on the wing vs
> fin keel issue, considering the shallower draft advantage of the wing
> keel.  The higher pointing of the fin keel boat came up repeatedly but I
> don't know if it was resolved.  One liability of the wing keel that is more
> than hypothetical is the chance of an anchor line getting wrapped around
> the fins when wind and current run in opposite directions, a not uncommon
> occurrence.  Also, if the keel depth of the shallower draft wing keel boat
> is less than or equal to the rudder depth, the rudder may settle down on or
> strike the bottom first when water depth is miscalculated or stranded by a
> falling tide (which we of course never do.....).  I'd be curious to know if
> wing keel owners have experience with this.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Dick Walker <dickwalker at att.net> wrote:
>
> > David I hope you will be here for the 2016 Regatta at Coronado YC ; 9-11
> > September 2016
> >
> > If any on the list have questions please contact me,
> >
> > If you are planning to come drop me an email
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Dick Walker
> > C-320 #687. WindWalker II
> > 740 Olive Ave.
> > Coronado ,CA 92118
> > 619.435.8986
> >
> > Dickwalker at att.net
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:29, Utility Email <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > We have a fin keel C320.  We live in both San Diego and Seattle area
> and
> > have sailed our C320 in both places.  We currently keep the boat in
> Seattle.
> > >
> > > There is a serialized list of C320's on the C320 owners website. I
> > believe that list shows whether or not the boat is a fin or wing keel.
> You
> > may be able to get a sense of production quantities from that list.
>  Also
> > search the sailboat and cruisers forums about wing vs fin keel Catalina
> > sailboats and I am sure you will find a lot of input there as well.
> > >
> > > I understand that the fin keel will point a little higher than a wing
> > keel.  Makes sense when considering the lift that a fin keel generates
> > compared to a traditional crushing boat lead bulb wing keel.
> > >
> > > We have been really happy with our C320 fin keel in both SD, SoCal and
> > Catalina Island sailing as well as sailing in Puget Sound, the San Juan
> and
> > Canadian Gulf Islands. It is the perfect boat for us.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > David Swanson
> > > S/V Emily Ann
> > > 2007 Catalina 320 Mk II
> > > No. 1107
> > > Mukilteo, Washington
> > >
> > >> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:04 PM, John Eddy <johneddy123 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi everyone,
> > >>
> > >> I am in the market for a C-320 fin keel. There are a number of 320's
> on
> > >> yachtworld, but most are the wing keel version. Can anyone tell me how
> > many
> > >> of each were built? It appears the fin was the *option* according to
> > what I
> > >> can gather from "the Google"... Can anyone assist?
> > >>
> > >> We're in the Pacific NW so skinny water not a concern...has anyone
> owned
> > >> both versions? I know the race vs cruising argument but I DO like
> > >> performance.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks all,
> > >>
> > >> Best regards,
> > >>
> > >> John
> >
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