[C320-list] Wing vs Fin

[Warren Updike]

Wrapping the rode around a wing keel can be inconvenient. What I do to avoid this condition is to run a weight out on the rode so that if the rode is slack the weight will keep the rode below the keel. I have a knot in the line so I know how far to let it out to clear the keel. Of course, if there is wind and/or tide the rode will be taught so no danger of a wrap. This is not the same as a kellett as it is only about 15lb. while a kellett is probably 30 or more lbs.

Warren and Pattie Updike
1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene Helfman [mailto:genehelfman at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2015 8:40 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Wing vs Fin

When shopping a few years ago for a C320, we sought advice on the wing vs
fin keel issue, considering the shallower draft advantage of the wing
keel.  The higher pointing of the fin keel boat came up repeatedly but I
don't know if it was resolved.  One liability of the wing keel that is more
than hypothetical is the chance of an anchor line getting wrapped around
the fins when wind and current run in opposite directions, a not uncommon
occurrence.  Also, if the keel depth of the shallower draft wing keel boat
is less than or equal to the rudder depth, the rudder may settle down on or
strike the bottom first when water depth is miscalculated or stranded by a
falling tide (which we of course never do.....).  I'd be curious to know if
wing keel owners have experience with this.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Dick Walker <dickwalker at att.net> wrote:

> David I hope you will be here for the 2016 Regatta at Coronado YC ; 9-11
> September 2016
>
> If any on the list have questions please contact me,
>
> If you are planning to come drop me an email
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 #687. WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado ,CA 92118
> 619.435.8986
>
> Dickwalker at att.net
>
>
>
> > On Jul 16, 2015, at 14:29, Utility Email <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> >
> > We have a fin keel C320.  We live in both San Diego and Seattle area and
> have sailed our C320 in both places.  We currently keep the boat in Seattle.
> >
> > There is a serialized list of C320's on the C320 owners website. I
> believe that list shows whether or not the boat is a fin or wing keel.  You
> may be able to get a sense of production quantities from that list.   Also
> search the sailboat and cruisers forums about wing vs fin keel Catalina
> sailboats and I am sure you will find a lot of input there as well.
> >
> > I understand that the fin keel will point a little higher than a wing
> keel.  Makes sense when considering the lift that a fin keel generates
> compared to a traditional crushing boat lead bulb wing keel.
> >
> > We have been really happy with our C320 fin keel in both SD, SoCal and
> Catalina Island sailing as well as sailing in Puget Sound, the San Juan and
> Canadian Gulf Islands. It is the perfect boat for us.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David Swanson
> > S/V Emily Ann
> > 2007 Catalina 320 Mk II
> > No. 1107
> > Mukilteo, Washington
> >
> >> On Jul 16, 2015, at 1:04 PM, John Eddy <johneddy123 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi everyone,
> >>
> >> I am in the market for a C-320 fin keel. There are a number of 320's on
> >> yachtworld, but most are the wing keel version. Can anyone tell me how
> many
> >> of each were built? It appears the fin was the *option* according to
> what I
> >> can gather from "the Google"... Can anyone assist?
> >>
> >> We're in the Pacific NW so skinny water not a concern...has anyone owned
> >> both versions? I know the race vs cruising argument but I DO like
> >> performance.
> >>
> >> Thanks all,
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> John
>



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