[C320-list] Perkins m 30

[Warren Updike]

Two quarts?? Is that the spec from Yanmar? Perkins specs are 3.8 liters (4.01 gal/US) I usually get about 3-1/2 qts out when changing oil. I change the oil twice a season: once after about 50-100 hours and when winterizing regardless of hours. I change the filter only when winterizing. 

Could it be that you are not getting all the old oil out? This can be a problem if you are pumping through the dip stick. Unless your engine burns an excessive amount of oil, you should be getting about 85% of the rated capacity out. If you have a threaded plug in the oil pan, I've heard of drill/tapping the plug and inserting a barb with hose as a permanently installed oil drain. We Perkins owners are fortunate as this engine has an installed rigid tube into the oil pan for the purpose of pumping out the oil.

So, 6 gal lasts me 3 seasons. I buy 6 because that is how it is packed at Sam's Club. That works out to $13/gal. At WM it's $20, Kmart $17 (prices incl. tax.) Not to mention that the price goes up each year. Some have said that I'm tighter than a duck's ass and that's water tight. Others say I'm so tight that I can squeeze a nickel until the Indian is riding the buffalo. (For you younger kids, there used to be a nickel with an Indian on one side and a buffalo on the other.) But, don't you believe a word of those criticisms. I'm just naturally frugal. 

Warren and Pattie Updike
1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Rosenberg [mailto:martinlrosenberg at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 10:16 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins m 30

Warren,
  Do you really buy 6 *GALLONS* of oil at a time? I have a 2001 with the
Yanmar engine and it uses 2 quarts that I change annually. How much oil
does the Perkins use?
Martin Rosenberg
Avalon  #823

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Don't know about synthetic oil restriction. In any event, DO NOT USE
> standard oil for gas engines. Diesels require a heavy duty oil. I've found
> that in auto stores the diesel oils are separated from the other oils. They
> also cost more.
> The current API code is like CJ-4/SM. You'll see this in a circle stamp
> usually on the rear label. However, as our Perkins M-30's are now over two
> decades old, the API standard back then was far lower than now. Therefore,
> any HD Diesel oil you are likely to find on the market today will be fine.
> I buy 10W40 Rotella T oil in six gallon box at Sam's club at about
> $10/gal. This is about the same price as cheap diesel oil at an auto store.
>
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sailorlew at aol.com [mailto:sailorlew at aol.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 3:01 PM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins m 30
>
> Eric,
>  Thank you for your reply. I had seen a Perkins notice to not use
> synthetic oil in their engines but I cannot seem to find it again.
> Lew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bronwen Young <baeyoung at telus.net>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Fri, May 29, 2015 12:28 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Perkins m 30
>
>
> Hi Lew,
>
>   The Perkins M30 is a pretty basic engine.  The oil that is called
> for is APICC/SE or APICD/SE; but those are old designations.  We use
> Castrol
> synthetic for diesel engines 10/40W.  To fill it completely uses 3.5 litres
> (with filter).
>   If the motor has a Hurth HBW 50 gear box then the fluid should
> be ATF Type A.  He should change it often.
>
> There are generally four filters
> that he should deal with.  There is a strainer on the external/cold water
> intake.  This should be removed, cleaned and re-installed.  Second one is a
> Racor 024 (probably) on the fuel line.  He needs to replace the canister
> yearly
> (at least, or 100 hrs), and inspect the water separator ‘glass’ after each
> time
> he adds fuel.  Drain it if he sees any water down there.
> Third is the small
> fuel filter that is on the aft part of the engine (yearly/100hrs).  He
> should
> just look at the number that is on it and get one from any auto supply
> store.
> Whatever brand he prefers will do.  Same thing goes for the oil filter
> that sits
> on the starboard side of the engine.  It is regular height but a bit
> narrow.
>
> If he has to deal with injectors that are gummy, they can be removed and
> taken
> to an engine shop to be cleaned and reconditioned.
> NB If he has to deal with
> glow plugs that are faulty he MUST get Perkins genuine glow plugs.  NGK
> will NOT
> work!!!!!!!
>
> There are lots of other questions I could answer.
>
> Good
> luck,
> Eric
>
> Bronwen & Eric Young
> FanaSea, #198
>
>
>
>