[C320-list] Port List
Ken
kspir4 at cox.net
Mon Apr 25 11:24:42 PDT 2016
My Honda runs it also.
Ken
MoonDancer
1089
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> On Apr 25, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Allan S. Field <allan.field at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, my Honda 2000 will NOT start a 12K CruisAir.
>
>
> On 04/24/16, swampcreek42<swampcreek42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> A nice little Honda EU 2000i in the aft starboard locker helps a little
> too...and it can run a Cruise Air 12,000 BTU unit! It is a tight fit
> though.à Bruce Hunterà Nauti Time #719.Ã
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Warren Updike <[1]wupdike at hotmail.com>
> Date: 04/23/2016 10:05 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: [2]C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Port List
> Bruce, I looked into lead shot as well and found it quite expensive.
> The 125lb of used 3/8 chain I bought for about 1/2 list (I think about
> $125.) It's not as compact as shot; but, will do the job at the cost of
> some space. Problem was, I was getting barnacles on the gelcoat above
> the water line.
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> -----Original Message-----
> From: swampcreek42 [[3]mailto:swampcreek42 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 9:03 PM
> To: [4]C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Port List
> Ã Ã Ã
> I'm looking to get bags of lead shot...it's on the list of things to
> do. :)Bruce Hunter Nauti Time #719
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Warren Updike <[5]wupdike at hotmail.com>
> Date: 04/22/2016Ã 5:27 PMÃ (GMT-05:00)
> To: [6]C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Port List
> We had a slight port list that was a tad annoying; but, otherwise not a
> problem. It may have affected our windward performance a bit; but, I
> can't be sure about that. We don't race so not a concern.
> After we installed A/C in the port locker we really had a port list. I
> thought about ballasting but lead is quite expensive, can move around,
> and where to put it. I found a place in Baltimore that makes a cement
> ballast material; but, once pored, could be difficult to remove. I then
> found a supply of old, surplus anchor chain and bought about 125lbs in
> 25ft lengths. This I put in the storage spaces on the starboard side
> under cushions. We don't use these a lot and what we have there fits
> easily on top of the chain. Also put 25ft in a bucket in the aft stbd
> lazarett. The bucket stays in-place kept by fenders we store there.
> Much less list now. I'm no longer considering adjusting the boot
> stripes.
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [7]millers1 at aol.com [[8]mailto:millers1 at aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2016 9:53 AM
> To: [9]C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Cc: [10]c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Buying a 320
> Doug,Ã Ã Your comments on the C320 are comprehensive and should be
> part of this site records.
> I noted your single-handing the boat and winch location comments. So
> true !!
> I finally added a set of used winches that I can comfortably(and
> safely)
> control from the helm position.Ã I then run the main sheet (one turn
> around the cabin top
> winch to guide it to one of the original primary winches and leave the
> end of the main
> sheet on the seat near the helm.Ã I can reach it easily,Ã and flip it
> on and off the winch as needed.
> This greatly improved the fun of sailing the boat (I single-hand it
> most summer
> afternoons if it isn't on a cruise).
> I didn't see this comment come up yet, but there have been discussions
> of an
> inherent list to Port(?) as I recall.Ã I have not experienced the
> problem and
> that may be because the PO installed a 3rd, 4D battery on the Starboard
> side.
> Artà à à Ã
> S/V Liberty,Ã #680
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Treff <[11]doug at treff.us>
> To: C320-List <[12]C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Cc: c320-list <[13]c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wed, Apr 20, 2016 9:01 am
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Buying a 320
> Daniel,
> The Catalina 320 is a fine vessel. As with any boat, there are pluses
> and minuses with the design.
> Some things I love:
> 1. The Aft cabin - Having the Aft cabin really makes a huge difference
> in the amount of space on board for accommodating guests. It also
> offers
> more privacy than other boats without this feature.
> 2. It's competitive compared to other models. I am continually amazed
> how I can hang with larger boats when out sailing. Boats that should
> have a speed advantage due to sail area and waterline length, yet I can
> keep pace with them.
> 3. The Cockpit - nice and roomy for entertaining, and the large wheel
> makes it easy to sit outboard and see around the cabin while steering
> the boat. Bonus - the walk-through transom.
> 4. A full shower in the head. This is my first boat with a shower and
> it
> was a huge selling point.
> Things I Don't love:
> 1. Aft Berth is side-loading - Whoever sleeps closest to the door to
> the
> aft cabin will be disturbed when the other person needs to get up in
> the
> middle of the night for any reason. Unfortunately, in this size vessel,
> there's no other way to design an aft berth.
> 2. Cabin Storage Space - There is limited storage space on the boat.
> Due
> to the location of the batteries and sewage tank, the starboard settee
> is not very useful for storing things. I would never put food in there
> and you really shouldn't pile a lot of stuff around the batteries.
> 3. Mainsheet location - When single-handing, I need to leave the helm
> completely to tend the main sheet due to its location on the cabin top.
> I generally don't like Hunters but one of the things I've admired about
> them is the arch with the main sheet right at the helm station.
> 4. Primary Winch location - same as above... Placing the winches 2 feet
> further aft would have made all the difference for single-handing.
> 5. She rounds up easily. Due to the very wide aft cross-section, when
> the boat heels too far, the rudder loses effectiveness, causing the
> boat
> to round up, often resulting in an unexpected tack. Especially
> troublesome when considering 3 and 4 above - if single-handing, you
> cannot dump the sails quickly while also tending the wheel. The
> solution
> is keep the heel under control through sail trim, and reef early.
> Recommend that whatever C320, you buy, make it a priority to properly
> rig the reefing setup and practice using it so you can do it
> efficiently
> when needed.
> Things to look for in your prospective purchase:
> First of all, hire a competent marine surveyor in your area. Don't rely
> on your broker to recommend one. Find someone who has no "skin in the
> game". Many times, marina owners are a resource to tell you who is a
> good surveyor. Your surveyor will look for all of the following, but
> you
> can save some money by educating yourself and eliminating any boats
> that
> have obvious problems. Your job here is to locate show-stoppers that
> would cause you to not buy the boat. This will save you money surveying
> multiple vessels.
> There are very few inherent problems that span across all C320 model
> years. She is a good example of a reliable production boat and most
> survey problems are due to poor maintenance.
> 1. Is it clean and tidy, or a cluttered mess? Messy owners are often
> lazy about proper maintenance.
> 2. Look for signs of leaks. Leaky decks can be a real problem once the
> core gets wet and starts to delaminate. Water stains on wood bulkheads
> and floors, drip spots or stains on upholstery. Feel the acorn nuts in
> the cabin roof for water droplets. Look on those nuts for discoloration
> or deposits that might indicate leaks. Examine the areas around the
> chain plates and look for signs of water intrusion. Early models of the
> C320 did not have solid fiberglass in the deck around the chain plates.
> Some time later, they started doing solid Fiberglass in these areas.
> Nobody has been able to definitely state when that change was made.
> Anything that looks like it's been leaking for a long time is a
> potential serious problem. A good strategy is to examine the interior
> of
> a boat within hours of a rain event. Not always possible, but it helps.
> Walk the entire deck and feel for soft spots that indicate serious
> structural problems.
> 3. Use your nose. Does it smell like mildew, or sewage? Sewage odors
> have many causes, but a weak design of the vent line is often a cause
> of
> sewage odors in Catalinas. Easily repaired and is documented on the
> C320
> site. Diesel odors? All these odors could be signs of potential
> problems
> - and of course each smell will have a specific cause. You'll want to
> examine what could be causing any odors, because it could be costly to
> clear up later. Pull up the floor boards and look for stagnant water or
> signs of an oil slick on the bilge water. This could contribute heavily
> to any odors, especially fuel or oil leaks. If you find oil or fuel in
> the bilge, alert the marina manager and be sure not to turn on the
> bilge
> pump!
> Older 320's may be needing a fuel tank replacement. If you search the
> 320 forum, you'll find discussions of fuel tank leaks over the years.
> Consensus seems to be 15-25 years is about when the failures start in
> Catalina aluminum tanks.
> 4. If your broker will allow it, pull the forward engine cover and
> examine the fiberglass drip pan under the engine, looking for any
> obvious signs of leaking. While you're looking at the engine, check the
> belt tension, and just look over the engine. Most well cared-for marine
> engines are (nearly) spotless, and show little sign of oil or grease
> build-up. Yanmar paints everything including the hoses. If you're
> looking at a boat that is 20 years old and the hoses are painted like
> the engine, there's a strong possibility that the hoses are 20 years
> old
> as well. Look at the raw water pump. Feel around on the underside for
> any dripping water that could indicate a leaky system. Take a white
> paper towel or rag and wipe around some of the joints in the diesel
> fuel
> system. Off-Road diesel in the US is usually dyed pink and will show up
> clearly on a clean white paper towel. You should not find any fuel
> leaks. Feel the bottom edge of the oil filter and see if it has any oil
> drips forming.
> 5. If the boat is out of the water, walk the perimeter at ground level
> and examine the rub rail from below. You are looking for any
> deformities
> that may indicate impact damage. The rub rail is made of aluminum and
> will show bends and deformities where serious collisions may have
> occurred. These may also be potential leaks inside to examine later.
> While you're down there, closely examine the propeller and shaft.
> looking for signs of pitting or corrosion that could indicate an
> electrolysis problem. Make note of excessive paint build-up or peeling
> bottom paint, as this will be a job facing you at some point if there's
> 10-20 years of paint built up.
> 6. Examine the hull for repair work and the deck as well. When
> anti-skid
> is repaired, it becomes quite obvious due to the intricate pattern.
> Learn the standard anti-skid patterns of the C320 and question anything
> that looks non-standard. We have a C320 locally (Annapolis) that was
> heavily damaged in a storm and it's easy to see the repairs in the deck
> if you know what to look for. When my friend was shopping last year,
> this boat was for sale. Closely examine the transom area for crazing
> where the swim ladder touches when lowered. There is a lot of stress on
> this area when the ladder is being used.
> 7. After you've decided to make a purchase, make your offer contingent
> on a successful survey and sea trial. Don't skip this step.
> 8. Have the engine surveyed by a diesel mechanic, including oil
> analysis. Many times this can be combined with sea trial and survey
> day.
> Money well spent, and most marine surveyors are not engine mechanics -
> they will usually clearly tell you so. Major engine work or re-powering
> a sailboat is expensive and you want to know ahead of time, so you can
> make an appropriate allowance in your offer.
> Another problem to watch is a leaking aqua-lift muffler box. You'll
> need
> to have your mechanic check for this during the sea-trial. Not a huge
> amount of water, but it can contribute to an exhaust odor in the cabin
> over time.
> Hope all this helps,
> ---
> Doug Treff
> Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350
> [14]http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/
> [15]doug at treff.us
>> On 2016-04-20 06:59, dandefrancesco wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> I am in the process to take a look and probably buy a 320 catalina.
>> I am 6' 2" it is the headroom enough for my height?
>> The boat I am looking at is 1995.
>> Seems that has some leaks.
>> Any advice in what to look for ans informations about the 320
>> Will be really appreciated.
>> Thank you
>> Daniel.
>>
>> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:wupdike at hotmail.com
> 2. mailto:C320-List at Catalina320.com
> 3. mailto:swampcreek42 at yahoo.com
> 4. mailto:C320-List at Catalina320.com
> 5. mailto:wupdike at hotmail.com
> 6. mailto:C320-List at Catalina320.com
> 7. mailto:millers1 at aol.com
> 8. mailto:millers1 at aol.com
> 9. mailto:C320-List at Catalina320.com
> 10. mailto:c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> 11. mailto:doug at treff.us
> 12. mailto:C320-List at catalina320.com
> 13. mailto:c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> 14. http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/
> 15. mailto:doug at treff.us
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