[C320-list] Using bow cleats for mooring

[Jon Vez]

An easy way to keep the anchor from chafing a mooring line is to use a bungy cord. Attach one end to the shank hole where it is attached to the chain/rode and the other to your pulpit. This 'tucks' the anchor flukes up under the bow roller. Much quicker and easier than pulling and flipping. I use an 18" bungy with hooks on each end and works great!
Just another option....

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From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Troy Dunn
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 9:59 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Using bow cleats for mooring

+1 on flipping the anchor upside down.   It admittedly looks a bit wonky,
especially if you forget to flip it back and then have your boat hauled for winter...  ;)

Troy Dunn
Wonky Dog
Hull#514

On Monday, December 19, 2016, Freedman Arthur <saltyvet at mindspring.com>
wrote:

> At my mooring ball I use a double pennant on my C310 with a claw anchor.
> Before one particular forecasted severe storm, I removed the anchor.
> Unfortunately, the wave action in the harbor caused marked severe  
> pitching and swinging of the boat.  Bottom line was the anchor roller 
> wore through both 3/4” pennants and the  was bent 45 degrees down from 
> the force of the boats peanut catching on the roller.  The boat ended up on the beach and
> spent the winter at the yacht yard being repaired.   Lesson learned is any
> time there is forecasted  severe storm I re-rout the pennants through 
> the anchor roller with chafe protection as well as securely tying the 
> pennants to the roller.
>
> Art Freedman
>
>
> On Dec 19, 2016, at 3:24 PM, Jeff Hare <Catalina at thehares.com 
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> Rather than remove the Anchor (which is a chore), we just pulled the 
> anchor out it out enough to flip it over and put it back in the bow 
> roller.  Then the flukes are pointed up and don't catch the pennant lines.
> That's a lot easier to do than to remove the anchor and pull it on deck.
>
> But normally when on a mooring ball,  we only use the Port side cleat 
> because it is least likely to catch on the anchor during swing unless 
> there is a tide/current/wind combination that makes the boat sit awkwardly.
>  When using double pennants, we nearly always flip the anchor upside 
> down unless it's very calm.
>
> -Jeff Hare
> #809
>
> PS:  Chris, your particular boat has had its anchor roller upgraded to 
> the newer style which is longer than the ones originally installed on 
> your hull # and earlier. So, those with hulls in the 400's or earlier, 
> probably have the OEM short bow roller unless you specifically 
> upgraded it.  Not sure if those are more or less susceptible having 
> the mooring lines from the cleats catch on the anchor.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
> <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of Chris Nichols
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 2:43 AM
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Using bow cleats for mooring
>
> Hi Scott,
> A fellow Brit c320 owner here. I have used my bow cleats in exactly 
> the manner you describe for years without negative consequence on a 
> swinging mooring where the boat has been subject to some horrendous conditions.
>
> A couple of thoughts
> 1. Put leather chafing gear on the junk to protect it from the 
> occasional twang from the tips of the anchor flukes (I have a boom 
> bail on my anchor roller so removal of the anchor is a real chore). 
> This can happen at the end of a swing with the right wave timing.
>
> 2. I have no additional protection for my rail edge and you describe 
> using adhesive SS. I would want to be really sure this did not create 
> an additional chafe point e.g. If the edge of the metal got turned slightly.
>
> All the best
> Chris
> (AmandaRose #476)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 19 Dec 2016, at 00:35, Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > I keep my 1999 320 on such a mooring using a single mooring pennant 
> > led
> to the port cleat. I use a 12 foot by 3/4 inch Yale mooring pennant.
> Mooring on the starboard side causes problems with the anchor. I've 
> had no problems through more than 12 years with this arrangement, 
> including tropical storm force winds. I am in a sheltered creek so no 
> significant wave action, tides or wakes. The bow cleats are less 
> likely to fail than the mooring itself in my view.
> >
> > The only issues that I've had were due to the hull bumping against 
> > the
> buoy, which has scratched the boot stripe.
> >
> > Scott Thompson
> >
> >> On Dec 18, 2016, at 7:05 PM, Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> My 1996 320, hull #366, has no bow fairleads, just the usual cleats
> either side a couple of feet back from the bow.
> >>
> >> Here in Britain it is very common  - but I believe less so in USA - 
> >> to
> have boats moored on a ‘swinging mooring’ rather than docked or ‘alongside’
> in a marina.  This, for those that are unaware is large gauge chain 
> connected to a heavy weight or block on the sea-bed. The chain is held 
> up by a large floating buoy and a mooring strop or mooring chain is 
> then connected to the top of the riser chain. The free end of this has 
> a small “pickup” buoy attached.
> >>
> >> Until now I have been using the mooring chain by removing the 
> >> anchor
> and leading the chain over the anchor roller to the large central bow 
> cleat. It works well but has two problems. It can be a pain to remove 
> the anchor and stow it (it has to be taken aft as insufficient room in 
> anchor locker), and it is easy to get fingers trapped when threading 
> chain over the bow roller, especially if the sea is a bit choppy . 
> Also the rusty chain leaves stains on the deck.
> >>
> >> Instead of mooring chain, I am therefore considering having a 
> >> double
> rope strop made up, to lead either side of the bow to the two bow 
> cleats, having a soft spliced eye at the cleat end and a hard eye at 
> the riser chain end. I envisage using some of the self-adhesive thin 
> stainless steel sheet to protect the edge of the deck where the line might chafe.
> >>
> >> The real question though is whether these cleats are up to the load 
> >> -
> compared to the large central cleat.  i think they must be as they 
> are, after all, what is used to secure the boat alongside in a dock or 
> marina berth. On the other hand the swinging moorings are a little 
> further off shore from the marina and have less shelter so a strong 
> gale and choppy seas might put quite a strain on them.
> >>
> >> I’d be interested to hear of other owners who have used or do use
> similar mooring techniques and any alternative recommendations.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Graeme
> >>
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> >> I work irregular hours and often write emails late in the evening 
> >> and
> at weekends; that doesn’t mean I expect you to do the same; reply when 
> convenient!
> >>
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> >
>
>
> Arthur Freedman, DVM
> Hawthorne Animal Health Care
> 978-741-2300
> saltyvet at mindspring.com <javascript:;>
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