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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Shifter (Dick Walker)
2. Bimini recommendation (GREG SUTTON)
3. Re: Shifter (Rick)
4. Re: Shifter (JJ Morrison)
5. Re: Bimini recommendation (Scott Thompson)
6. diesel fueling question (Dave Ouimette)
7. Re: Shifter (Doug Treff)
8. Re: Shifter (DianeFlr at aol.com)
9. Re: Shifter (DianeFlr at aol.com)
10. Re: Shifter (Doug Treff)
11. Re: Shifter (Rick)
12. Re: diesel fueling question (Allan S Field)
13. Re: Shifter (Allan S Field)
14. Re: Shifter (DianeFlr at aol.com)
15. Re: diesel fueling question (sholdr at aol.com)
16. Re: diesel fueling question (Dave Ouimette)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:18:30 -0800
From: Dick Walker <dickwalker at att.net>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
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You might spray WD40 where the wire attached at the transmission
When is the last time you changed the transmission fluid and checked the dip
stick
Cheers
Dick Walker
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado ,CA 92118
619.435.8986
> On Mar 1, 2016, at 09:11, Diane <dianeflr at aol.com> wrote:
>
> My shifter that goes into forward and reverse is very very stiff. Seems to
be getting worse.
>
> Does anyone know how to fix this?
>
> Thank you, again, for all your savvy advice
>
> Captain Diane Fowler,
>
> #948. Windy City
>
> Gulf Coast Realty, cell. 239-850-4935. Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 1, 2016, at 11:36 AM, Marek Fluder <marekf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?List,
>>
>> To improve ventilation I have decided to put 4" Nicro solar vent in
>> my forward hatch.
>> ?I need to cut 4.5" diameter hole in 0.5" thick acrylic (?) Seems
>> that acrylic is prone to melting and it might not be easy
>> cutting/drilling through 0.5" thickness.
>> Has anyone tackled this task before and can share tips on what tools
>> to use ?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Marek Fluder
>> #1028
>> Lake Ontario
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 18:18:51 -0500
From: GREG SUTTON <sutt47 at msn.com>
To: "C320 Int. Association" <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Bimini recommendation
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I have seen a few 320s out there that sport a folding Bimini. Unfortunately
I have not been able to find a distributor that makes one. All the ones I
have run across only make a fixed system. Does anyone out there have a
recommendation of someone they have used?
Thanks
Greg
Liberty #128
Sent from my iPad
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:53:51 -0500
From: "Rick" <rsulewski at bex.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
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Doug,
Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or snapped and
what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
For others who suffered cable failures, should one surmise that most of the
throttle or shift cable failures are occurring on saltwater boats? Any
freshwater failures? So far, I have not seen evidence of wear on my throttle
or shift cables and am wondering if after 20 seasons and 1,300 hours if the
cables should be replaced as a preventative measure because a cable failure
is imminent. Any thoughts?
FYI/DIY Item: Last spring I replaced the pedestal shift lever's 1"white
Delrin liner. The shift lever became increasingly sloppy over time and
required increased force to move the move lever in and out of gear. The
worn liner also accumulated grit accelerating liner wear. Initially I feared
that I was having a shift cable problem before I figured out what was
causing the sloppy shifter. As a result of the (liner) bushing wear, the
shift lever's shaft was also occasionally contacting some metal hardware
just inside the pedestal creating a grinding/scrapping feel whenever the
lever was moved. After the replacement liner was installed, the shift lever
was restored to be as firm and work as smoothly as when it was new. A
replacement Delrin liner (bushing) is available from Edson.
Rick Sulewski
My-Ria
95' C320 hull #277
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Doug Treff
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:50 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Diane,
Definitely address the issues by lubricating the linkages on both ends of
the cable. These cables are not meant to have lube added internally inside
the jacketing because they are meant to be sealed assemblies. If lubing the
linkages does not remedy the issue it may be time to replace the cable, as
JJ pointed out.
JJ is also correct that the shift cable replacement is not easy - and it
will be expensive if you hire someone to do the job. However I was able to
replace my own cable, and it cost me only for the part which was less than
$50 but it took the better part of a week of my time in the evenings and a
LOT of sweat and crawling around the aft cabin. The hardest part of the
whole job was the connection in the pedestal. It is not a one person job
because you will need someone below and above when doing the pedestal
connections. I found the following web page very helpful even though it was
not a Catalina.Obviously the lengths he referenced are incorrect, but the
article is still useful. Catalina Direct recommends 12 or 14 foot cables for
our Catalina 320's. Yours should be marked as in the article to figure out
what length to buy.
http://spartina.blogspot.com/2009/05/replacing-throttle-and-shift-cables.htm
l
Lesson learned here is the following. When I bought the boat in 2012, the
engine survey revealed a need to replace the THROTTLE cable because the
jacket had been allowed to melt against the exhaust. Of course that's all we
replaced because there was no indication of the shift cable being a problem.
Fast forward one year, and the shift cable snapped while I was in reverse
backing into my slip. Looking back on that, the cost of having BOTH cables
replaced in 2012 would have only been increased by the cost of the parts
since all the same areas need to be accessed to replace the cables.
All that being said, if it is determined that the shift cable needs to be
replaced, and your shift cable is of unknown vintage, go ahead and have the
throttle cable done at the same time as a preventive measure and peace of
mind. Your call - do the job twice when the other cable fails, or do it once
for an extra ~$50.
Last, yours has not failed yet - good on you for noticing that it needs
attention. Better to replace it proactively rather than finding out the hard
way like I did - while backing into my slip.
My $0.02
---
Doug Treff
Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350 http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/
doug at treff.us
On 2016-03-01 12:24, JJ Morrison wrote:
> Look at where the shifter cable attaches to the shifting lever on the
> transmission. Mine was corroded there and the shifter cable eventually
broke off because the pin could not rotate, necessitating a shifter cable
replacement, not easy or cheap! The linkage at the transmission should be
lubricated at least once a year with white grease to facilitate shifting and
prevent corrosion. Also at the binnacle end where the shifter cable attaches
to the shifting lever should be lubricated once a year. If those two points
seem to be in good nick then the shifter cable should be detached from the
transmission lever and the shifter lever moved back and forth. the cable
should move easily when this is done. If it is stiff to move it probably
means a shifter cable replacement due to wear or corrosion. The attachment
ends of the throttle cable should be lubricated there as
well.cheersJohnM1999#574
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 02:41:25 +0000
From: JJ Morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
To: Catalina List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Message-ID: <BAY172-W19FE77EFD15BD09953F6E2E9BC0 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
My shift cable broke during the sea trial prior to my acquiring the boat.
The engine had only 400hr on it and the boat had spent all of it's life to
that point in salt water. What had happened is that the pin connecting the
cable to the transmission lever had corroded solidly into the lever, causing
the cable to be bent up and down during each shift. This resulted in work
hardening the metal cable end until it eventually broke. A bit of grease on
the pin and the hole it passes through would've prevented this but no one
knew at the time.I also had the throttle cable replaced (at my cost) when
the yard was replacing the shifter cable (seller's cost and scary). I
wouldn't recommend replacing the cables as a preventative measure, if
things are working smoothly and visual inspection confirms no obvious
problems; I've never heard of a cable breaking within its
sheath.CheersJohnM1999#574
> From: rsulewski at bex.net
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:53:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
>
> Doug,
> Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or
> snapped and what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
>
> For others who suffered cable failures, should one surmise that most
> of the throttle or shift cable failures are occurring on saltwater
> boats? Any freshwater failures? So far, I have not seen evidence of
> wear on my throttle or shift cables and am wondering if after 20
> seasons and 1,300 hours if the cables should be replaced as a
> preventative measure because a cable failure is imminent. Any thoughts?
>
> FYI/DIY Item: Last spring I replaced the pedestal shift lever's
> 1"white Delrin liner. The shift lever became increasingly sloppy over
> time and required increased force to move the move lever in and out of
> gear. The worn liner also accumulated grit accelerating liner wear.
> Initially I feared that I was having a shift cable problem before I
> figured out what was causing the sloppy shifter. As a result of the
> (liner) bushing wear, the shift lever's shaft was also occasionally
> contacting some metal hardware just inside the pedestal creating a
> grinding/scrapping feel whenever the lever was moved. After the
> replacement liner was installed, the shift lever was restored to be as
firm and work as smoothly as when it was new. A
> replacement Delrin liner (bushing) is available from Edson.
>
> Rick Sulewski
> My-Ria
> 95' C320 hull #277
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On
> Behalf Of Doug Treff
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:50 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
>
>
>
> Diane,
>
> Definitely address the issues by lubricating the linkages on both ends
> of the cable. These cables are not meant to have lube added internally
> inside the jacketing because they are meant to be sealed assemblies.
> If lubing the linkages does not remedy the issue it may be time to
> replace the cable, as JJ pointed out.
>
> JJ is also correct that the shift cable replacement is not easy - and
> it will be expensive if you hire someone to do the job. However I was
> able to replace my own cable, and it cost me only for the part which
> was less than
> $50 but it took the better part of a week of my time in the evenings
> and a LOT of sweat and crawling around the aft cabin. The hardest part
> of the whole job was the connection in the pedestal. It is not a one
> person job because you will need someone below and above when doing
> the pedestal connections. I found the following web page very helpful
> even though it was not a Catalina.Obviously the lengths he referenced
> are incorrect, but the article is still useful. Catalina Direct
> recommends 12 or 14 foot cables for our Catalina 320's. Yours should
> be marked as in the article to figure out what length to buy.
>
> http://spartina.blogspot.com/2009/05/replacing-throttle-and-shift-cabl
> es.htm
> l
>
>
> Lesson learned here is the following. When I bought the boat in 2012,
> the engine survey revealed a need to replace the THROTTLE cable
> because the jacket had been allowed to melt against the exhaust. Of
> course that's all we replaced because there was no indication of the shift
cable being a problem.
> Fast forward one year, and the shift cable snapped while I was in
> reverse backing into my slip. Looking back on that, the cost of having
> BOTH cables replaced in 2012 would have only been increased by the
> cost of the parts since all the same areas need to be accessed to replace
the cables.
>
> All that being said, if it is determined that the shift cable needs to
> be replaced, and your shift cable is of unknown vintage, go ahead and
> have the throttle cable done at the same time as a preventive measure
> and peace of mind. Your call - do the job twice when the other cable
> fails, or do it once for an extra ~$50.
>
> Last, yours has not failed yet - good on you for noticing that it
> needs attention. Better to replace it proactively rather than finding
> out the hard way like I did - while backing into my slip.
>
> My $0.02
>
> ---
> Doug Treff
> Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350
> http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/ doug at treff.us
>
> On 2016-03-01 12:24, JJ Morrison wrote:
>
> > Look at where the shifter cable attaches to the shifting lever on
> > the transmission. Mine was corroded there and the shifter cable
> > eventually
> broke off because the pin could not rotate, necessitating a shifter
> cable replacement, not easy or cheap! The linkage at the transmission
> should be lubricated at least once a year with white grease to
> facilitate shifting and prevent corrosion. Also at the binnacle end
> where the shifter cable attaches to the shifting lever should be
> lubricated once a year. If those two points seem to be in good nick
> then the shifter cable should be detached from the transmission lever
> and the shifter lever moved back and forth. the cable should move
> easily when this is done. If it is stiff to move it probably means a
> shifter cable replacement due to wear or corrosion. The attachment
> ends of the throttle cable should be lubricated there as
> well.cheersJohnM1999#574
>
>
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 00:27:46 -0500
From: Scott Thompson <surprise at thompson87.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bimini recommendation
Message-ID: <56D679D2.5030804 at thompson87.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Call Christopher Ford Yacht Canvas in Annapolis.
On 3/1/2016 6:18 PM, GREG SUTTON wrote:
> I have seen a few 320s out there that sport a folding Bimini.
Unfortunately I have not been able to find a distributor that makes one. All
the ones I have run across only make a fixed system. Does anyone out there
have a recommendation of someone they have used?
> Thanks
> Greg
> Liberty #128
>
> Sent from my iPad
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 08:43:30 -0500
From: Dave Ouimette <drouimette at aol.com>
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
Message-ID: <1533791baa8-5d00-3c61 at webprd-m89.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I have a 1995 C320 and struggle to fill the fuel tank without spillage. On
this model year the filler is located under the aft, starboard railing seat
and no matter how sloooooowly I try adding fuel, it foams up, blows out the
filler and needs to be caught in absorbent pads. Any suggestions on how to
make this a less eventful operation?
Dave
Hull 174
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 09:45:23 -0500
From: Doug Treff <doug at treff.us>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Message-ID: <52a4e0c3bdc4fa2b303dfc6ff07d54ab at treff.us>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Rick,
My cable snapped right at the end where the swaged end meets the cable in
the binnacle. When I looked at things in the engine room I could not see any
problems. It was only when I disassembled the binnacle that I found the
issue. Did not do a root cause analysis. The shifter handle operates
smoothly and did not seem to need new bushings or anything. It was my
opinion that it was just old age that caused the break. In the two seasons
since the cable was replaced, I have experienced no issues.
I have since made it a habit of doing the annual maintenance recommended by
Edson which includes greasing the linkage and I have seen no evidence of
corrosion during those inspections.
My boat lives on the upper Chesapeake Bay, which is brackish, and not very
salty compared to the ocean. We're somewhere between fresh and salty.
---
Doug Treff
Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350 http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/
doug at treff.us
On 2016-03-01 19:53, Rick wrote:
> Doug,
> Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or
> snapped and what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:51:11 -0500
From: DianeFlr at aol.com
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com, c320-list at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Message-ID: <16801.7022fd75.440865ef at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Thanks to all who replied! I now know more about maintenance, too.
I so much appreciate everyone out there.
Fair winds and smooth sailing!
S/V Windy City #948 in sunny Cape Coral
Captain Diane Fowler,
CRS, GRI, e-PRO
Gulf Coast Realty Network
Cell: 239-850-4935
www.CapeCoralhomes.com
In a message dated 3/1/2016 9:41:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sail-ability at sympatico.ca writes:
My shift cable broke during the sea trial prior to my acquiring the boat.
The engine had only 400hr on it and the boat had spent all of it's life to
that point in salt water. What had happened is that the pin connecting the
cable to the transmission lever had corroded solidly into the lever,
causing the cable to be bent up and down during each shift. This resulted
in work hardening the metal cable end until it eventually broke. A bit of
grease on the pin and the hole it passes through would've prevented this
but no one knew at the time.I also had the throttle cable replaced (at my
cost) when the yard was replacing the shifter cable (seller's cost and
scary). I wouldn't recommend replacing the cables as a preventative
measure, if things are working smoothly and visual inspection confirms no
obvious problems; I've never heard of a cable breaking within its
sheath.CheersJohnM1999#574
> From: rsulewski at bex.net
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 19:53:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
>
> Doug,
> Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or
> snapped
and
> what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
>
> For others who suffered cable failures, should one surmise that most
> of
the
> throttle or shift cable failures are occurring on saltwater boats?
> Any freshwater failures? So far, I have not seen evidence of wear on
> my
throttle
> or shift cables and am wondering if after 20 seasons and 1,300 hours
> if
the
> cables should be replaced as a preventative measure because a cable
failure
> is imminent. Any thoughts?
>
> FYI/DIY Item: Last spring I replaced the pedestal shift lever's
> 1"white Delrin liner. The shift lever became increasingly sloppy
> over time and required increased force to move the move lever in and
> out of gear. The worn liner also accumulated grit accelerating liner
> wear. Initially I
feared
> that I was having a shift cable problem before I figured out what was
> causing the sloppy shifter. As a result of the (liner) bushing wear,
> the shift lever's shaft was also occasionally contacting some metal
> hardware just inside the pedestal creating a grinding/scrapping feel
> whenever the lever was moved. After the replacement liner was
> installed, the shift
lever
> was restored to be as firm and work as smoothly as when it was new. A
> replacement Delrin liner (bushing) is available from Edson.
>
> Rick Sulewski
> My-Ria
> 95' C320 hull #277
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On
Behalf
> Of Doug Treff
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:50 PM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
>
>
>
> Diane,
>
> Definitely address the issues by lubricating the linkages on both
> ends of the cable. These cables are not meant to have lube added
> internally
inside
> the jacketing because they are meant to be sealed assemblies. If
> lubing
the
> linkages does not remedy the issue it may be time to replace the
> cable,
as
> JJ pointed out.
>
> JJ is also correct that the shift cable replacement is not easy - and
> it will be expensive if you hire someone to do the job. However I was
> able
to
> replace my own cable, and it cost me only for the part which was less
than
> $50 but it took the better part of a week of my time in the evenings
> and
a
> LOT of sweat and crawling around the aft cabin. The hardest part of
> the whole job was the connection in the pedestal. It is not a one
> person job because you will need someone below and above when doing
> the pedestal connections. I found the following web page very helpful
> even though it
was
> not a Catalina.Obviously the lengths he referenced are incorrect, but
> the article is still useful. Catalina Direct recommends 12 or 14 foot
> cables
for
> our Catalina 320's. Yours should be marked as in the article to
> figure
out
> what length to buy.
>
>
http://spartina.blogspot.com/2009/05/replacing-throttle-and-shift-cables.htm
> l
>
>
> Lesson learned here is the following. When I bought the boat in 2012,
> the engine survey revealed a need to replace the THROTTLE cable
> because the jacket had been allowed to melt against the exhaust. Of
> course that's
all we
> replaced because there was no indication of the shift cable being a
problem.
> Fast forward one year, and the shift cable snapped while I was in
> reverse backing into my slip. Looking back on that, the cost of
> having BOTH
cables
> replaced in 2012 would have only been increased by the cost of the
> parts since all the same areas need to be accessed to replace the cables.
>
> All that being said, if it is determined that the shift cable needs
> to
be
> replaced, and your shift cable is of unknown vintage, go ahead and
> have
the
> throttle cable done at the same time as a preventive measure and
> peace of mind. Your call - do the job twice when the other cable
> fails, or do it
once
> for an extra ~$50.
>
> Last, yours has not failed yet - good on you for noticing that it
> needs attention. Better to replace it proactively rather than finding
> out the
hard
> way like I did - while backing into my slip.
>
> My $0.02
>
> ---
> Doug Treff
> Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350
http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/
> doug at treff.us
>
> On 2016-03-01 12:24, JJ Morrison wrote:
>
> > Look at where the shifter cable attaches to the shifting lever on
> > the transmission. Mine was corroded there and the shifter cable
> > eventually
> broke off because the pin could not rotate, necessitating a shifter
cable
> replacement, not easy or cheap! The linkage at the transmission
> should be lubricated at least once a year with white grease to
> facilitate shifting
and
> prevent corrosion. Also at the binnacle end where the shifter cable
attaches
> to the shifting lever should be lubricated once a year. If those two
points
> seem to be in good nick then the shifter cable should be detached
> from
the
> transmission lever and the shifter lever moved back and forth. the
> cable should move easily when this is done. If it is stiff to move it
> probably means a shifter cable replacement due to wear or corrosion.
> The
attachment
> ends of the throttle cable should be lubricated there as
> well.cheersJohnM1999#574
>
>
=
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:53:23 -0500
From: DianeFlr at aol.com
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com, C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Message-ID: <1690e.6eba283e.44086672 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Does anyone know the part #? I would like to order a new cable .... get
it from Catalina?
OR WHERE? thanks again,
S/V Windy City #948
Captain Diane Fowler,
CRS, GRI, e-PRO
Gulf Coast Realty Network
Cell: 239-850-4935
www.CapeCoralhomes.com
In a message dated 3/2/2016 9:45:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
doug at treff.us writes:
Rick,
My cable snapped right at the end where the swaged end meets the cable in
the binnacle. When I looked at things in the engine room I could not see
any problems. It was only when I disassembled the binnacle that I found the
issue. Did not do a root cause analysis. The shifter handle operates
smoothly and did not seem to need new bushings or anything. It was my
opinion that it was just old age that caused the break. In the two seasons
since the cable was replaced, I have experienced no issues.
I have since made it a habit of doing the annual maintenance recommended by
Edson which includes greasing the linkage and I have seen no evidence of
corrosion during those inspections.
My boat lives on the upper Chesapeake Bay, which is brackish, and not very
salty compared to the ocean. We're somewhere between fresh and salty.
---
Doug Treff
Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350
http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/ doug at treff.us
On 2016-03-01 19:53, Rick wrote:
> Doug,
> Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or
> snapped
and
> what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 11:06:25 -0500
From: Doug Treff <doug at treff.us>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
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Diane,
Start with this:
http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/1547_737/engine-control-cabl
e-12c-270c-28-c-310-c-320-c-42.cfm
Pretty sure I used a 12 footer on my C320 shift cable. I have a Yanmar
engine. Would be best to confer with Catalina Direct - they are VERY willing
to help research. Phone numbers are on their web site. Again, the existing
cable should be marked. Look at your existing cable - it should be stamped
with a part number every few feet. Look up that number online and
cross-reference it to the right length. In my case, the part number was
discontinued but my local marine diesel parts guy was able to
cross-reference to a new one of the same length.
Good luck - and feel free to reach out to me since I did the job myself.
---
Doug Treff
Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350 http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/
doug at treff.us
On 2016-03-02 10:53, DianeFlr at aol.com wrote:
> Does anyone know the part #? I would like to order a new cable ....
> get it from Catalina?
>
> OR WHERE? thanks again,
>
> S/V Windy City #948
>
> Captain Diane Fowler,
> CRS, GRI, e-PRO
> Gulf Coast Realty Network
>
> Cell: 239-850-4935
>
> www.CapeCoralhomes.com [1]
>
> In a message dated 3/2/2016 9:45:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> doug at treff.us writes:
>
> Rick,
>
> My cable snapped right at the end where the swaged end meets the cable
> in the binnacle. When I looked at things in the engine room I could
> not see any problems. It was only when I disassembled the binnacle
> that I found the issue. Did not do a root cause analysis. The shifter
> handle operates smoothly and did not seem to need new bushings or
> anything. It was my opinion that it was just old age that caused the
> break. In the two seasons since the cable was replaced, I have experienced
no issues.
>
> I have since made it a habit of doing the annual maintenance
> recommended by Edson which includes greasing the linkage and I have
> seen no evidence of corrosion during those inspections.
>
> My boat lives on the upper Chesapeake Bay, which is brackish, and not
> very salty compared to the ocean. We're somewhere between fresh and
> salty.
>
> ---
> Doug Treff
> Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350
> http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/ [2] doug at treff.us
>
> On 2016-03-01 19:53, Rick wrote:
>
>> Doug, Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or
>> snapped
>
> and
>
>> what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
Links:
------
[1] http://www.CapeCoralhomes.com
[2] http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:14:41 -0500
From: "Rick" <rsulewski at bex.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
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Thanks Doug & John for your timely replies!
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Doug Treff
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 9:45 AM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Rick,
My cable snapped right at the end where the swaged end meets the cable in
the binnacle. When I looked at things in the engine room I could not see any
problems. It was only when I disassembled the binnacle that I found the
issue. Did not do a root cause analysis. The shifter handle operates
smoothly and did not seem to need new bushings or anything. It was my
opinion that it was just old age that caused the break. In the two seasons
since the cable was replaced, I have experienced no issues.
I have since made it a habit of doing the annual maintenance recommended by
Edson which includes greasing the linkage and I have seen no evidence of
corrosion during those inspections.
My boat lives on the upper Chesapeake Bay, which is brackish, and not very
salty compared to the ocean. We're somewhere between fresh and salty.
---
Doug Treff
Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350 http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/
doug at treff.us
On 2016-03-01 19:53, Rick wrote:
> Doug,
> Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or
> snapped and what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
------------------------------
Message: 12
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 11:23:24 -0500
From: "Allan S Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
Message-ID: <001e01d1749f$d8df7400$8a9e5c00$@verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Try the Lifeguard LG-100. We put one in about 10 years ago and have never
had a spill since.
http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_LifeGuard_Fue
l-Air-Separators_-_RSL0184.pdf
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 8:44 AM
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
I have a 1995 C320 and struggle to fill the fuel tank without spillage. On
this model year the filler is located under the aft, starboard railing seat
and no matter how sloooooowly I try adding fuel, it foams up, blows out the
filler and needs to be caught in absorbent pads. Any suggestions on how to
make this a less eventful operation?
Dave
Hull 174
------------------------------
Message: 13
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2016 11:25:32 -0500
From: "Allan S Field" <allan.field at verizon.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Message-ID: <001f01d174a0$251de2c0$6f59a840$@verizon.net>
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I ordered from Bay Shore Marine in Annapolis several years ago. They are
the Yanmar dealer for this area. 410-263-8370
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of DianeFlr at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 10:53 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com; C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Does anyone know the part #? I would like to order a new cable .... get
it from Catalina?
OR WHERE? thanks again,
S/V Windy City #948
Captain Diane Fowler,
CRS, GRI, e-PRO
Gulf Coast Realty Network
Cell: 239-850-4935
www.CapeCoralhomes.com
In a message dated 3/2/2016 9:45:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
doug at treff.us writes:
Rick,
My cable snapped right at the end where the swaged end meets the cable in
the binnacle. When I looked at things in the engine room I could not see
any problems. It was only when I disassembled the binnacle that I found the
issue. Did not do a root cause analysis. The shifter handle operates
smoothly and did not seem to need new bushings or anything. It was my
opinion that it was just old age that caused the break. In the two seasons
since the cable was replaced, I have experienced no issues.
I have since made it a habit of doing the annual maintenance recommended by
Edson which includes greasing the linkage and I have seen no evidence of
corrosion during those inspections.
My boat lives on the upper Chesapeake Bay, which is brackish, and not very
salty compared to the ocean. We're somewhere between fresh and salty.
---
Doug Treff
Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350
http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/ doug at treff.us
On 2016-03-01 19:53, Rick wrote:
> Doug,
> Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or
> snapped
and
> what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
------------------------------
Message: 14
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:48:44 -0500
From: DianeFlr at aol.com
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Message-ID: <1876c.6ee44ebe.4408736c at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Just called my local Yanmar dealer in Ft. Myers - $42.85 and can get in 1
biz day! COOL
Captain Diane Fowler,
CRS, GRI, e-PRO
Gulf Coast Realty Network
Cell: 239-850-4935
www.CapeCoralhomes.com
In a message dated 3/2/2016 11:25:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
allan.field at verizon.net writes:
I ordered from Bay Shore Marine in Annapolis several years ago. They are
the Yanmar dealer for this area. 410-263-8370
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of DianeFlr at aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 10:53 AM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com; C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Shifter
Does anyone know the part #? I would like to order a new cable .... get
it from Catalina?
OR WHERE? thanks again,
S/V Windy City #948
Captain Diane Fowler,
CRS, GRI, e-PRO
Gulf Coast Realty Network
Cell: 239-850-4935
www.CapeCoralhomes.com
In a message dated 3/2/2016 9:45:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
doug at treff.us writes:
Rick,
My cable snapped right at the end where the swaged end meets the cable in
the binnacle. When I looked at things in the engine room I could not see
any problems. It was only when I disassembled the binnacle that I found
the issue. Did not do a root cause analysis. The shifter handle operates
smoothly and did not seem to need new bushings or anything. It was my
opinion that it was just old age that caused the break. In the two seasons
since the cable was replaced, I have experienced no issues.
I have since made it a habit of doing the annual maintenance recommended
by Edson which includes greasing the linkage and I have seen no evidence
of corrosion during those inspections.
My boat lives on the upper Chesapeake Bay, which is brackish, and not very
salty compared to the ocean. We're somewhere between fresh and salty.
---
Doug Treff
Catalina 320 - 1996 - September Song - #350
http://savvysailor.blogspot.com/ doug at treff.us
On 2016-03-01 19:53, Rick wrote:
> Doug,
> Could you please explain exactly where the shift cable broke or
> snapped
and
> what you believe was the root cause? Thanks.
------------------------------
Message: 15
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:49:53 -0500
From: sholdr at aol.com
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
Message-ID: <153383c5d92-7726-4a71 at webprd-a19.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
perhaps the fuel vent line is plugged so air has to exit the filler when
refueling. I use a large funnel to pour into the fuel filler and never have
blowback. 1997 #322
-----Original Message-----
From: Allan S Field <allan.field at verizon.net>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 10:23 am
Subject: Re: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
Try the Lifeguard LG-100. We put one in about 10 years ago and have never
had a spill since.
http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_LifeGuard_Fue
l-Air-Separators_-_RSL0184.pdf
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 8:44 AM
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
I have a 1995 C320 and struggle to fill the fuel tank without spillage. On
this model year the filler is located under the aft, starboard railing seat
and no matter how sloooooowly I try adding fuel, it foams up, blows out the
filler and needs to be caught in absorbent pads. Any suggestions on how to
make this a less eventful operation?
Dave
Hull 174
------------------------------
Message: 16
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 14:24:59 -0500
From: Dave Ouimette <drouimette at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
Message-ID: <15338ca5cd7-365-479d at webprd-a100.mail.aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Allan,
Thanks. I will investigate.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Allan S Field <allan.field at verizon.net>
To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Wed, Mar 2, 2016 11:23 am
Subject: Re: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
Try the Lifeguard LG-100. We put one in about 10 years ago and have never
had a spill since.
http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_LifeGuard_Fue
l-Air-Separators_-_RSL0184.pdf
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf
Of Dave Ouimette
Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 8:44 AM
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] diesel fueling question
I have a 1995 C320 and struggle to fill the fuel tank without spillage. On
this model year the filler is located under the aft, starboard railing seat
and no matter how sloooooowly I try adding fuel, it foams up, blows out the
filler and needs to be caught in absorbent pads. Any suggestions on how to
make this a less eventful operation?
Dave
Hull 174
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