[C320-list] Rub rail

[Bev Wright]

Chris, that makes sense, thank you. Sorry to hear about the bolt damage but perhaps in the storm it might have been worse had they not retied the lines - who knows.  Hopefully the section you need to replace is already one of the smaller sections and not in the middle of the larger section.

Bev Wright

-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 7:45 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rub rail

In our case, when the aluminum rail was sprung, it opened up slightly, so when I got the insert pushed in, I closed it up with the mallet. In your case, I would cut two narrow hardwood wedges just tall enough to get under the lip of the rail where it is not bent and using a dowel start driving them together under the crushed part… you would be amazed at the power of a basic ramp…

I need to replace a section of ours cosmetically because someone retied our lines  and fender for a storm while we were away and she rubbed up against  a large bolt on the finger pier…ugly but still functional…

Thanks,
Chris Burti
Farmville, NC

From: Bev Wright
Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2017 4:30 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rub rail

Chris, thanks, but not sure what you mean about tightening up the rail with a mallet. Someone on this list suggested before, if I interpreted correctly, that a mallet might be used to pound out the places on the frame where it's bent in, but perhaps I misinterpreted because I tried that and the mallet was too big to get under the lip and bend it up. The aluminum is quite strong, whereas I thought it might be soft. I am able to pop the rail into the track by hand, even under the bent lip, although I've also tried using a mallet after that, but there didn't seem to be a need or matter once it was locked in on both sides. I will say that getting the rail back into the frame requires some dexterity because once I have gotten it almost all the way in, there is a bulge that I have to work the in slowly until the whole thing settles into place. 

Bev Wright
Edgewater, MD

-----Original Message-----
From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 4:09 PM
To: 320
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rub rail

It has been long enough ago tha*t *I forgot, but the discussion reminded me...I too had the problem long ago and was able to tighten up the rail with a rubber mallet and the insert hasn't come out since.

Chris Burti
Farmville, NC


On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Bev Wright <bev.wright at verizon.net> wrote:

> Just to follow up, Catalina Tech Support told me that the original rub 
> rail came in two 20' sections, from bow going aft, then two 6' 1/2"
> sections to stern with screw holes to the hull every 4". Now they only 
> ship in 6' 1/2" sections. For my problem of the insert popping out, 
> they recommended that, if the aluminum frame is in reasonable 
> condition, which it is or at least I'm not embarrassed by it, and 
> before buying all new rail sections, I could either screw the old one 
> (which is scuffed up
> considerably) to the existing frame or get a new $231 insert that 
> would most likely fit tighter into the existing frame. They also no 
> longer sell the end caps, which were cosmetic. I guess it's just a 
> matter of cosmetics and/or money, like always!
>
> Bev Wright
> s/v Whoosh #15
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bev Wright [mailto:bev.wright at verizon.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:47 PM
> To: 'C320-List at Catalina320.com'
> Subject: RE: [C320-list] Rub rail
>
> Chris, per your request. This is from the Catalina Direct website.  
> There are no instructions on the rub rail page, but I imagine you 
> might e able to just pop out the insert under the section you want to 
> replace, unscrew the section and replace the section(s), then pop the 
> insert back in.  The instructions are on the item page for the insert.
> In addition, my port aft end cap somehow got ripped off, which I just 
> noticed. Catalina Direct has those as well.
>
> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/216/rubrail-
> aluminum-wide-6-12.cfm
>
> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/1338/
> rubrail-c-320-c-36-open-transom-gray-vinyl.cfm
>
> Bev
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 2:33 PM
> To: 320
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Rub rail
>
> Bev,
> Please share that information...e.g. contact info,  part numbers, 
> instructions, URL, etc.
>
> We have a banged up section (due to somebody's 'courtesy' of retying 
> our lines and fender at the slip) and 6' would be ample to cure the issue...
>
> Chris Burti
> Farmville, NC
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 2:21 PM, Bev Wright <bev.wright at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Art - did you ever replace your rub rail?  My aluminum rub rail is 
> > slightly bent in several places which I believe is allowing the 
> > insert to pop out either after a long race/cruise with bouncing or 
> > if the boat rubs along a slip piling. Despite suggestions to 
> > straighten the
> frame, it's impossible.
> > I am able to pop the insert back in easily, no mallet required, but 
> > I'd like not to have to deal with it.
> >
> > Catalina Direct sells the aluminum frame in 6 1/2 foot sections and 
> > an improved (more flexible) insert (80 feet lengths) and the process 
> > they describe seems straightforward. I just want to be sure that 
> > replacing the frame and insert will solve the "popping out" problem.
> > Otherwise, the options are to buy a different type. West Marine has 
> > many rub rail
> options.
> > I just prefer to buy from Catalina if it truly is the bent frame 
> > that is causing the pop-outs.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Bev Wright
> > s/v Whoosh #15
> > Edgewater, MD
> > 703-606-2209
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Art Harden
> > Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 7:37 PM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: [C320-list] Rub rail
> >
> > Has anyone replaced the rub rail. On Tortuga, the rub rail is brutal 
> > and needs to be replaced. Is there a good procedure for this?
> >
> > Art Harden
> > Tortuga Catalina 320
> > 937-477-5544 (m)
> >
> >
>
>