[C320-list] Anchor Chain - Gauge and Length
Greg Flanagan
greg.flanagan at shaw.ca
Wed Aug 16 17:40:16 PDT 2017
We have 120 ft chain and 130 rode. As most of our anchorages in the Gulf and San Juan Islands require less than the 120. Sailed 49 days this summer so far and never used more than 100ft. We have a 15kg Rocna anchor that replaced the 10kg Lewmar that came with the boat. This anchor and chain has been fantastic.
Cheers,
Greg
Hoop Dancer #1076
> On Aug 16, 2017, at 1:36 PM, rcliffordlee <rcliffordlee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is there a recommended chain size/length that this group favors? We have 20-25 ft, not sure of gauge. I envy other all-chain cruisers whose anchor line drops vertically into the water while our rode seemingly reaches to the horizon. On the other hand, I don't want to handle/store any more chain than I need. We do mostly coastal cruising so need to handle most conditions in a pinch.
>
> Cliff Lee
> Comfort Zone (1995 - Hull 268)
>
>
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> From: sail-ability sail-ability <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: c320-list <c320-list at catalina320.com>
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> What's the deadline; any interest in a solar panel install, or has
> that been well covered?
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> Cheers
>
> JohnM
>
> 1999#574
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
> Date: August 15, 2017 at 10:55 AM
> I have to do an article for the Fall issue of Mainsheet. I'd like to
> do it on a project of interest to our owners. If anyone has done the
> cabin fixed view-port replacement (ok, windows,) and can offer some
> pictures and notes, I can prepare the article. Or, how about some
> other topic?
> Help me out here guys...
> Warren and Pattie Updike
> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:00:27 -0400
> From: Diane Fowler <dianeflr at aol.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com, c320-list at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] It's Mainsheet time
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> I have replaced both of my fixed windows; ?AKA ?Deadlights
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> In a message dated 8/15/2017 3:35:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, sail-ability at sympatico.ca writes:
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> What's the deadline; any interest in a solar panel install, or has that been well covered? Cheers JohnM 1999#574 ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com> Date: August 15, 2017 at 10:55 AM I have to do an article for the Fall issue of Mainsheet. I'd like to do it on a project of interest to our owners. If anyone has done the cabin fixed view-port replacement (ok, windows,) and can offer some pictures and notes, I can prepare the article. Or, how about some other topic? Help me out here guys... Warren and Pattie Updike 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62 Middle River, Chesapeake Bay >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:06:08 -0400
> From: Angus Henderson <rathlyn1 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] It's Mainsheet time
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> I was wondering if there had been an article on configuring the port lazarett to make it more useful space. I'm a relatively new member so maybe this has been covered already. Just a thought.
> Angus
> Hull # 999
> Georgian Bay
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 3:35 PM, sail-ability sail-ability <sail-ability at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> What's the deadline; any interest in a solar panel install, or has
>> that been well covered?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> JohnM
>>
>> 1999#574
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
>> Date: August 15, 2017 at 10:55 AM
>> I have to do an article for the Fall issue of Mainsheet. I'd like to
>> do it on a project of interest to our owners. If anyone has done the
>> cabin fixed view-port replacement (ok, windows,) and can offer some
>> pictures and notes, I can prepare the article. Or, how about some
>> other topic?
>> Help me out here guys...
>> Warren and Pattie Updike
>> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
>> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>>
>>>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:20:31 -0400
> From: david.allred at verizon.net
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID: <15de78e0626-e86-1b7ba at webprd-m25.mail.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier. I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I would definitely pay so
> meone to do it.
> DLA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>
> Hey everyone:
>
> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might expect in costs? Ideas?
>
> Patricia
> Knot Home
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:44:21 +0000
> From: <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID: <20170816114421.72T2A.32505.root at cdptpa-web07>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thank you! The quote was $1,000-$1,200 to replace 2 motor mounts. I know this is not something I can do or would want to try, so I would definitely hire a boat yard to do the work. I am scheduled for a haul-out and thought to have them do the work while out of the water. Replacing all 4 might be advisable.
>
> Take care,
>
> Patricia
> Knot Home
>
>
> ---- david.allred at verizon.net wrote:
>> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier. I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I would definitely pay
> someone to do it.
>> DLA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
>> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>>
>> Hey everyone:
>>
>> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might expect in costs? Ideas?
>>
>> Patricia
>> Knot Home
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:32:25 -0400
> From: Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID:
> <CA+yXqc5ypr0ziHdgMHy6qHi1CsKeSCauXpjcEN82wUFtfNgtzg at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Good morning group,
>
> Out of curiosity did your marina tech explain what may of happened to to
> damage the mounts?
>
> I would like to avoid damaging mine if possible.
>
> Thanks in advance, Tim
>
>> On Aug 16, 2017 7:44 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you! The quote was $1,000-$1,200 to replace 2 motor mounts. I know
>> this is not something I can do or would want to try, so I would definitely
>> hire a boat yard to do the work. I am scheduled for a haul-out and thought
>> to have them do the work while out of the water. Replacing all 4 might be
>> advisable.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Patricia
>> Knot Home
>>
>>
>> ---- david.allred at verizon.net wrote:
>>> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I
>> bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I
>> actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the
>> work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or
>> maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they
>> are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I
>> found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a
>> Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts
>> that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier.
>> I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda
>> (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the
>> weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely
>> pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I
>> would definitely pay someone to do it.
>>> DLA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
>>> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>>>
>>> Hey everyone:
>>>
>>> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I
>> received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might
>> expect in costs? Ideas?
>>>
>>> Patricia
>>> Knot Home
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 09:50:00 -0400
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID: <DC999C8B-57F3-4F6C-965E-88607D3D9E9C at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Patricia,
> Absolutely replace all of them as age is an issue and the cost should not be that much more. Shaft and coupling alignment is critical anytime, but especially after engine mount replacement. We published an article on that subject in Mainsheet a couple of years ago explaining the process and it should be on the website.
>
> Best Regards,
> Chris
>
>
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good morning group,
>>
>> Out of curiosity did your marina tech explain what may of happened to to
>> damage the mounts?
>>
>> I would like to avoid damaging mine if possible.
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Tim
>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2017 7:44 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you! The quote was $1,000-$1,200 to replace 2 motor mounts. I know
>>> this is not something I can do or would want to try, so I would definitely
>>> hire a boat yard to do the work. I am scheduled for a haul-out and thought
>>> to have them do the work while out of the water. Replacing all 4 might be
>>> advisable.
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Patricia
>>> Knot Home
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- david.allred at verizon.net wrote:
>>>> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I
>>> bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I
>>> actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the
>>> work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or
>>> maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they
>>> are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I
>>> found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a
>>> Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts
>>> that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier.
>>> I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda
>>> (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the
>>> weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely
>>> pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I
>>> would definitely pay someone to do it.
>>>> DLA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
>>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>>>>
>>>> Hey everyone:
>>>>
>>>> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I
>>> received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might
>>> expect in costs? Ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Patricia
>>>> Knot Home
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 14:19:00 +0000
> From: <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID: <20170816141900.VZ17Q.34226.root at cdptpa-web07>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Thank you!
>
> Patricia
>
> ---- Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Patricia,
>> Absolutely replace all of them as age is an issue and the cost should not be that much more. Shaft and coupling alignment is critical anytime, but especially after engine mount replacement. We published an article on that subject in Mainsheet a couple of years ago explaining the process and it should be on the website.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Good morning group,
>>>
>>> Out of curiosity did your marina tech explain what may of happened to to
>>> damage the mounts?
>>>
>>> I would like to avoid damaging mine if possible.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance, Tim
>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2017 7:44 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you! The quote was $1,000-$1,200 to replace 2 motor mounts. I know
>>>> this is not something I can do or would want to try, so I would definitely
>>>> hire a boat yard to do the work. I am scheduled for a haul-out and thought
>>>> to have them do the work while out of the water. Replacing all 4 might be
>>>> advisable.
>>>>
>>>> Take care,
>>>>
>>>> Patricia
>>>> Knot Home
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---- david.allred at verizon.net wrote:
>>>>> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I
>>>> bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I
>>>> actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the
>>>> work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or
>>>> maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they
>>>> are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I
>>>> found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a
>>>> Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts
>>>> that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier.
>>>> I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda
>>>> (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the
>>>> weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely
>>>> pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I
>>>> would definitely pay someone to do it.
>>>>> DLA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
>>>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey everyone:
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I
>>>> received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might
>>>> expect in costs? Ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Patricia
>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:11:19 -0400
> From: Angus Henderson <rathlyn1 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID: <27B43AD3-5542-4745-930E-268364FB4F4D at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Given the discussion on replacing motor mounts I was wondering whether the decision to replace was based on visual inspection and observed degradation or whether there were some operational issues?
> Replacement after how many engine hours or years of operation.
> Angus
> Hull# 999
> Georgian Bay
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:19 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Patricia
>>
>> ---- Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Patricia,
>>> Absolutely replace all of them as age is an issue and the cost should not be that much more. Shaft and coupling alignment is critical anytime, but especially after engine mount replacement. We published an article on that subject in Mainsheet a couple of years ago explaining the process and it should be on the website.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good morning group,
>>>>
>>>> Out of curiosity did your marina tech explain what may of happened to to
>>>> damage the mounts?
>>>>
>>>> I would like to avoid damaging mine if possible.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance, Tim
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2017 7:44 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you! The quote was $1,000-$1,200 to replace 2 motor mounts. I know
>>>>> this is not something I can do or would want to try, so I would definitely
>>>>> hire a boat yard to do the work. I am scheduled for a haul-out and thought
>>>>> to have them do the work while out of the water. Replacing all 4 might be
>>>>> advisable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>
>>>>> Patricia
>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- david.allred at verizon.net wrote:
>>>>>> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I
>>>>> bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I
>>>>> actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the
>>>>> work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or
>>>>> maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they
>>>>> are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I
>>>>> found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a
>>>>> Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts
>>>>> that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier.
>>>>> I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda
>>>>> (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the
>>>>> weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely
>>>>> pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I
>>>>> would definitely pay someone to do it.
>>>>>> DLA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
>>>>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey everyone:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I
>>>>> received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might
>>>>> expect in costs? Ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patricia
>>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 11:14:56 -0400
> From: John Meyers <jcmeyers7 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] It's Mainsheet time
> Message-ID:
> <CANEXtrK7z4cFqF6hJUa61aaSHwH290DoRitwO_tueROEisVAqQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> I would really like to see an article on Angus's suggestion on the port
> lazarett/locker. Mine is a perpetual mess.
>
> John Meyers
>
>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Angus Henderson <rathlyn1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was wondering if there had been an article on configuring the port
>> lazarett to make it more useful space. I'm a relatively new member so maybe
>> this has been covered already. Just a thought.
>> Angus
>> Hull # 999
>> Georgian Bay
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 3:35 PM, sail-ability sail-ability <
>> sail-ability at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's the deadline; any interest in a solar panel install, or has
>>> that been well covered?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> JohnM
>>>
>>> 1999#574
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>>> From: Warren Updike <wupdike at hotmail.com>
>>> Date: August 15, 2017 at 10:55 AM
>>> I have to do an article for the Fall issue of Mainsheet. I'd like to
>>> do it on a project of interest to our owners. If anyone has done the
>>> cabin fixed view-port replacement (ok, windows,) and can offer some
>>> pictures and notes, I can prepare the article. Or, how about some
>>> other topic?
>>> Help me out here guys...
>>> Warren and Pattie Updike
>>> 1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
>>> Middle River, Chesapeake Bay
>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 15:21:30 +0000
> From: <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID: <20170816152130.QVIJ1.8244.root at cdptpa-web24>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Mine was based on a visual inspection by my mechanic.
> Patricia
> Knot Home
>
>
>
> ---- Angus Henderson <rathlyn1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Given the discussion on replacing motor mounts I was wondering whether the decision to replace was based on visual inspection and observed degradation or whether there were some operational issues?
>> Replacement after how many engine hours or years of operation.
>> Angus
>> Hull# 999
>> Georgian Bay
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:19 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Patricia
>>>
>>> ---- Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Patricia,
>>>> Absolutely replace all of them as age is an issue and the cost should not be that much more. Shaft and coupling alignment is critical anytime, but especially after engine mount replacement. We published an article on that subject in Mainsheet a couple of years ago explaining the process and it should be on the website.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Good morning group,
>>>>>
>>>>> Out of curiosity did your marina tech explain what may of happened to to
>>>>> damage the mounts?
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to avoid damaging mine if possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance, Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2017 7:44 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you! The quote was $1,000-$1,200 to replace 2 motor mounts. I know
>>>>>> this is not something I can do or would want to try, so I would definitely
>>>>>> hire a boat yard to do the work. I am scheduled for a haul-out and thought
>>>>>> to have them do the work while out of the water. Replacing all 4 might be
>>>>>> advisable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patricia
>>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---- david.allred at verizon.net wrote:
>>>>>>> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I
>>>>>> bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I
>>>>>> actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the
>>>>>> work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or
>>>>>> maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they
>>>>>> are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I
>>>>>> found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a
>>>>>> Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts
>>>>>> that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier.
>>>>>> I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda
>>>>>> (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the
>>>>>> weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely
>>>>>> pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I
>>>>>> would definitely pay someone to do it.
>>>>>>> DLA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
>>>>>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey everyone:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I
>>>>>> received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might
>>>>>> expect in costs? Ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patricia
>>>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 17:29:55 +0100
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID: <FDB7B448-E19C-454B-8A63-0E03BCA214EF at skyflyer.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> I had a small fuel weep that dropped unseen onto the aft starboard mount and the rubber eventually disbonded from the metal
>
> I replaced them with R&D mounts which are about one third the price and are constructed differently so the disbonding can't happen. They also cannot allow engine to drop in case if a knockdown
>
> I replaced one at a time without removing the engine. To do this you need to remove the mount mounting lugs from the engine block. The engine is easily supported by remaining three mounts temporarily
>
> Once they were all in place I did the shaft realignment process
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Graeme
>
> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>
>
>> On 16 Aug 2017, at 16:21, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mine was based on a visual inspection by my mechanic.
>> Patricia
>> Knot Home
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Angus Henderson <rathlyn1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Given the discussion on replacing motor mounts I was wondering whether the decision to replace was based on visual inspection and observed degradation or whether there were some operational issues?
>>> Replacement after how many engine hours or years of operation.
>>> Angus
>>> Hull# 999
>>> Georgian Bay
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:19 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Patricia
>>>>
>>>> ---- Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Patricia,
>>>>> Absolutely replace all of them as age is an issue and the cost should not be that much more. Shaft and coupling alignment is critical anytime, but especially after engine mount replacement. We published an article on that subject in Mainsheet a couple of years ago explaining the process and it should be on the website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of curiosity did your marina tech explain what may of happened to to
>>>>>> damage the mounts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to avoid damaging mine if possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance, Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2017 7:44 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you! The quote was $1,000-$1,200 to replace 2 motor mounts. I know
>>>>>>> this is not something I can do or would want to try, so I would definitely
>>>>>>> hire a boat yard to do the work. I am scheduled for a haul-out and thought
>>>>>>> to have them do the work while out of the water. Replacing all 4 might be
>>>>>>> advisable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patricia
>>>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---- david.allred at verizon.net wrote:
>>>>>>>> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I
>>>>>>> bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I
>>>>>>> actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the
>>>>>>> work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or
>>>>>>> maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they
>>>>>>> are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I
>>>>>>> found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a
>>>>>>> Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts
>>>>>>> that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier.
>>>>>>> I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda
>>>>>>> (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the
>>>>>>> weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely
>>>>>>> pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I
>>>>>>> would definitely pay someone to do it.
>>>>>>>> DLA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
>>>>>>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
>>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey everyone:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I
>>>>>>> received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might
>>>>>>> expect in costs? Ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patricia
>>>>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2017 12:59:33 -0400
> From: Ken Geiger <kendgb at aol.com>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
> Message-ID: <15debfc62b7-77d2-1ea2e at webprd-m57.mail.aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
> Hi. I googled R&D mounts and found this You Tube video and complaints that R&D mounts are not so good at low RPM.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTQdDM-CBVE
>
> No personal experience however.
>
> Ken Geiger
> Northern Dream #765
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 16, 2017 12:30 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>
> I had a small fuel weep that dropped unseen onto the aft starboard mount and the rubber eventually disbonded from the metal
>
> I replaced them with R&D mounts which are about one third the price and are constructed differently so the disbonding can't happen. They also cannot allow engine to drop in case if a knockdown
>
> I replaced one at a time without removing the engine. To do this you need to remove the mount mounting lugs from the engine block. The engine is easily supported by remaining three mounts temporarily
>
> Once they were all in place I did the shaft realignment process
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Graeme
>
> Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!
>
>
>> On 16 Aug 2017, at 16:21, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mine was based on a visual inspection by my mechanic.
>> Patricia
>> Knot Home
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Angus Henderson <rathlyn1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Given the discussion on replacing motor mounts I was wondering whether the decision to replace was based on visual inspection and observed degradation or whether there were some operational issues?
>>> Replacement after how many engine hours or years of operation.
>>> Angus
>>> Hull# 999
>>> Georgian Bay
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 10:19 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Patricia
>>>>
>>>> ---- Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Patricia,
>>>>> Absolutely replace all of them as age is an issue and the cost should not be that much more. Shaft and coupling alignment is critical anytime, but especially after engine mount replacement. We published an article on that subject in Mainsheet a couple of years ago explaining the process and it should be on the website.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good morning group,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Out of curiosity did your marina tech explain what may of happened to to
>>>>>> damage the mounts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to avoid damaging mine if possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance, Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2017 7:44 AM, <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you! The quote was $1,000-$1,200 to replace 2 motor mounts. I know
>>>>>>> this is not something I can do or would want to try, so I would definitely
>>>>>>> hire a boat yard to do the work. I am scheduled for a haul-out and thought
>>>>>>> to have them do the work while out of the water. Replacing all 4 might be
>>>>>>> advisable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Patricia
>>>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---- david.allred at verizon.net wrote:
>>>>>>>> I replaced all four of my motor mounts on my 2000 C320 two years ago. I
>>>>>>> bought the original equipment mounts from Yanmar (two years before I
>>>>>>> actually replaced them) and I think the cost was around $400. I did the
>>>>>>> work myself, and not being particularly handy, I probably spent 20 hours or
>>>>>>> maybe more for the whole project. I'm guessing someone who knows what they
>>>>>>> are doing could do it in less than half that time, maybe much less time. I
>>>>>>> found that carefully outlining the original mounts on the stringers with a
>>>>>>> Sharpie and counting the exact number of threads before loosening the bolts
>>>>>>> that attach the motor to the mounts made realigning the shaft much easier.
>>>>>>> I raised the motor from the motor mounts with the screw jack from my Honda
>>>>>>> (twice-one on each side) with a 1x6 piece of wood on top to distribute the
>>>>>>> weight across the bottom of the motor. It worked for me, but I'd likely
>>>>>>> pay someone to do it in the future. If your estimate was under $1,000, I
>>>>>>> would definitely pay someone to do it.
>>>>>>>> DLA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: pclaytor <pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com>
>>>>>>>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tue, Aug 15, 2017 2:08 pm
>>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Motor Mounts - Yanmar 3GM30
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey everyone:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need to replace my motor mounts on my Catalina 320, year - 2000. I
>>>>>>> received 1 estimate but it seemed high to me. Was wondering what I might
>>>>>>> expect in costs? Ideas?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Patricia
>>>>>>>> Knot Home
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
>
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