[C320-list] Upper Chesapeake Raft up

Tom Talling ttalling at gmail.com
Fri Aug 3 08:36:04 PDT 2018


We are in if it is the right weekend.  Worton is a perfect place, one of our
favorites if you stay outside.
Tom and Sue Talling
One Shot
Bohemia River

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: New member/basic question (Daryl Hunt)
   2. Re: New member/basic question (Jack Brennan)
   3. Re: New member/basic question (Troy Dunn)
   4. Re: Transmission linkage - reverse (Doug Treff)
   5. Re: New member/basic question (Brad)
   6. Upper Chesapeake Raft Up (Troy Dunn)
   7. Re: Upper Chesapeake Raft Up (Edward Thompson)
   8. Re: Upper Chesapeake Raft Up (Doug Treff)
   9. Re: Upper Chesapeake Raft Up (Troy Dunn)
  10. Re: Upper Chesapeake Raft Up (Steve Barrar)
  11. Re: Upper Chesapeake Raft Up (Steve Barrar)
  12. Forward part of the foot of the genoa rubbing on lifeline and
      rail (Kevin Rooney)
  13. Re: Transmission linkage - reverse (Michael Paris)
  14. Re: Forward part of the foot of the genoa rubbing on lifeline
      and rail (Graeme Clark)
  15. Re: New member/basic question (Scott Westwood)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 16:21:15 -0400
From: Daryl Hunt <drhunt at rochester.rr.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New member/basic question
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Hi Jack,

 ??? I haven't been following this whole discussion so forgive me if this
has already been suggested.? On Believe, I noticed dripping from the "banjo"
fitting on the secondary fuel filter of my 3GM30F.? It's located on the
starboard side of the engine. After searching the web, I found that it's a
known issue
<https://forums.sailboatowners.com/index.php?threads/yanmar-diesel-fuel-leak
-at-fuel-filter.8227/>
that the bleeder plug washers can compress beyond functioning and have to be
replaced.? There are copper "crush" washers and nylon washers.? I haven't
been able to find a source for the copper ones but the nylon washers are
available from several Yanmar part sellers.

Fuel bleeder plug washer, Yanmar part number : 23418-060000,

Best regards,
Daryl

(585) 233-7814

On 8/2/2018 2:44 PM, Jack Brennan wrote:
> Well, after several hours of crawling around, cleaning everything and 
> running the diesel, I've come to the conclusion that someone changed 
> the fuel filter, dumped some diesel in the bilge and never cleaned it up.
>
> The diesel soaked into absorbent pads under the engine and continually 
> tainted the bilge water from the stuffing box as it passed through on 
> the way to the bilge pump.
>
> There was no diesel near the water tank or in the little collection 
> pond for the stuffing box. Fuel filter, fuel pump and all lines are 
> good. I can't see any other path for diesel from a leaking tank to 
> make it to the bilge pump. Am I missing something?
>
> Also, anyone know what kind of fuel filter that is?
>
> Thanks again for all of the help.
>
> Jack Brennan
> 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:22:57 -0400
From: "Jack Brennan" <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New member/basic question
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Hi Jeff:

I'm fairly confident now that the fuel tank is not leaking -- I can't smell
diesel anywhere -- but I suppose the proof will come on Monday, when I motor
12 miles over to the boatyard for a bottom job and new standing rigging.

I figure that will cause any wayward fuel to move into the bilge and settle
the issue.

Daryl, I did find a smudge of fuel on the banjo itting for the secondary
filter, so I am going to replace the washer once I get back from the
boatyard.

What a spot for that secondary filter, by the way. I'm not looking forward
to changing it. It's hard up against the frame of the engine room.

Jack Brennan
1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:06:23 -0400
From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New member/basic question
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Jack-

Congrats on your purchase.  Changing that fuel filter is way less
complicated than it looks and you will have plenty of access to it from the
aft berth.   There is a great video for how to change that filter here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub0zfW42mVo   If you don't have great
maintenance records for the vessel, you might want to consider changing
both the racor and the fuel filter soon.   In my experience you can skip
most of the advice about priming and simply use the racor pump to push fuel
to the injector pump and things should turn over fine.   If not...then you
can worry all the other ideas for getting the injectors primed.

The other potential item to keep an eye on for fuel leaks is the diaphragm
of the fuel lift pump.

If you have a relatively well adjusted stuffing box, you might consider
placing some paper towels in various strategic locations to see if any fuel
is dripping or seeping in any of the places mentioned in the above posts.

Good luck...hope you got it fixed.

Cheers-

Troy Dunn
S/V Wonky Dog
Hull #514

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>
> Hi Jeff:
>
> I'm fairly confident now that the fuel tank is not leaking -- I can't 
> smell diesel anywhere -- but I suppose the proof will come on Monday, 
> when I motor 12 miles over to the boatyard for a bottom job and new 
> standing rigging.
>
> I figure that will cause any wayward fuel to move into the bilge and 
> settle the issue.
>
> Daryl, I did find a smudge of fuel on the banjo itting for the 
> secondary filter, so I am going to replace the washer once I get back 
> from the boatyard.
>
> What a spot for that secondary filter, by the way. I'm not looking 
> forward to changing it. It's hard up against the frame of the engine room.
>
>
> Jack Brennan
> 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 19:11:29 -0400
From: Doug Treff <doug at treff.us>
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission linkage - reverse
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I saw guidance on here that if the adjustment can't be made, that maybe a
new cable is in order. 

If you're going to replace the shift cable, it is recommended that you
replace the throttle cable as well. After you complete the job, you'll
understand why. When I bought my boat, the surveyor recommended that I
replace the throttle cable because it was melted from the heat of the
exhaust manifold. I did so. About 6 months later, the shift cable broke and
I was doing that difficult job again. Replace them both at the same time and
have peace of mind! It will only cost you the extra $50 US for the other
cable and it won't add much time to the job.

Here's a great blog piece on how to do the job. A different make of boat but
it's still an Edson Pedestal and the process is the same:
http://spartina.blogspot.com/2009/05/replacing-throttle-and-shift-cables.htm
l

Also, you can get the cables from CatalinaDirect here:
http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/category/737/controls--cables.cfm

It's a difficult job and you will need a helper but you can save a ton of
money if you're willing to do your own work! I replaced mine over a period
of two evenings and it works great now. 
Good luck!

--
Doug Treff
doug at treff.us


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 19:32:07 -0400
From: Brad <bkuether at comcast.net>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New member/basic question
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Agree with Troy this is NOT hard to do.

Changing your filters are the MOST important thing you can do, to keep your
diesel running.  Mine has never given me any fits, save for a water pump,
and that was just a thing, not due to lack of maintenance!

1 ? CLOSE OFF THE FUEL VALVE!!!!!  Ask me why I know to say that first.  ?
2 ? Put down paper towels to catch any minor spills.  I block up the weep
holes as well.
3 ? Either drain the racor, or find a way to drop the filter without
spilling.  I have a setup with a plastic coffee can that allows me to drop
it without draining.   YRMV
3 ? Drain out the filter into some type of container.  I use a plastic
coffee can.  See a pattern here?
4 ? Remove the filter from the bowl.  Drain any remaining fuel.
5 ? Wipe out the bowl.  If there is a lot of dirt, you may have to use a
toothbrush or something to get all the dirt out.  Wipe it dry especially if
you had to use water to clean it. 
6 ? Using some of the fuel you drained, put a film on the gasket of the new
filter.  Spin on the bowl. 
7 ? Replace the top gasket that goes on the housing.  Put a film of fuel on
that as well.  Spin it on to the specs on the filter.  (see the diagram)
8 ? Clean up any residual drips or spills, I use 409 as it cuts grease.
9 ? After changing the primary filter, prime using either the racor pump if
you have one, or the fuel pump lift.  I do the latter.  Not sure why, maybe
I like pain.   Check for leaks.  Bleed and fire it up!  

I will let someone else take you through changing the fuel filter.  I have a
Yanmar 3YM30, and I know a lot of the older boats have the 3GM30F, so I
don?t know exactly how they handle that.  The 3YM30 ?self bleeds? and I
don?t know if the procedure for the 3GM is the same. 

Good luck, have fun, and do this when it?s cool.  ? 

-Brad Kuether
SV Independence
2004 Catalina 320 #1006



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From: Troy Dunn
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 7:06 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New member/basic question

Jack-

Congrats on your purchase.  Changing that fuel filter is way less
complicated than it looks and you will have plenty of access to it from the
aft berth.   There is a great video for how to change that filter here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub0zfW42mVo   If you don't have great
maintenance records for the vessel, you might want to consider changing
both the racor and the fuel filter soon.   In my experience you can skip
most of the advice about priming and simply use the racor pump to push fuel
to the injector pump and things should turn over fine.   If not...then you
can worry all the other ideas for getting the injectors primed.

The other potential item to keep an eye on for fuel leaks is the diaphragm
of the fuel lift pump.

If you have a relatively well adjusted stuffing box, you might consider
placing some paper towels in various strategic locations to see if any fuel
is dripping or seeping in any of the places mentioned in the above posts.

Good luck...hope you got it fixed.

Cheers-

Troy Dunn
S/V Wonky Dog
Hull #514

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>
> Hi Jeff:
>
> I'm fairly confident now that the fuel tank is not leaking -- I can't 
> smell diesel anywhere -- but I suppose the proof will come on Monday, 
> when I motor 12 miles over to the boatyard for a bottom job and new 
> standing rigging.
>
> I figure that will cause any wayward fuel to move into the bilge and 
> settle the issue.
>
> Daryl, I did find a smudge of fuel on the banjo itting for the 
> secondary filter, so I am going to replace the washer once I get back 
> from the boatyard.
>
> What a spot for that secondary filter, by the way. I'm not looking 
> forward to changing it. It's hard up against the frame of the engine room.
>
>
> Jack Brennan
> 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 20:09:33 -0400
From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Upper Chesapeake Raft Up
Message-ID:
	<CA+rGV8ak-HuBRi_pHUs96pAQFGBHgWrWWLXfRwOZkipthEU=SQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

This topic has come up a few times in various posts and PMs.    Let's make
it happen.   We are at the very top of the bay (actually technically we are
in the Susquehanna)   Is there still an interest in attempting an informal
"raft up" sometime this year (maybe in September?).

Troy and Kim Dunn
S/V Wonky Dog
Hull #514
Tidewater Marina, Havre De Grace, MD


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 00:28:13 +0000
From: Edward Thompson <edthompson3 at outlook.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Upper Chesapeake Raft Up
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Hi Troy! Yes, we?re interested. My boat is in Kent Narrows as you might
remember. Perhaps we can raft up in Fairlee or Whorton Creeks. Let me know
if you get enough interest.

Ed Thompson
Bellavia #739
Edthompson3 at outlook.com

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This topic has come up a few times in various posts and PMs.    Let's make
> it happen.   We are at the very top of the bay (actually technically we
are
> in the Susquehanna)   Is there still an interest in attempting an informal
> "raft up" sometime this year (maybe in September?).
> 
> Troy and Kim Dunn
> S/V Wonky Dog
> Hull #514
> Tidewater Marina, Havre De Grace, MD

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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2018 20:54:20 -0400
From: Doug Treff <doug at treff.us>
To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Upper Chesapeake Raft Up
Message-ID:
	<1533257660.2152176.1461858600.6053A9C9 at webmail.messagingengine.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I'm in Rock Creek off the Patapsco River. I'd like to join in if my schedule
lines up. September is a beautiful time of the year to be on the bay, and a
lot less crowded! Worton Creek is a beautiful location. Very peaceful.

If someone wants to take the lead on setting this up, let's do it. I would
imagine Warren would be up for it as well.

We have a few other 320's in my marina, they aren't active on the email
list. Once you have a date, I'll try and talk it up with them.

--
Doug Treff
September Song - 1996 - #350
doug at treff.us

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, at 8:28 PM, Edward Thompson wrote:
> Hi Troy! Yes, we?re interested. My boat is in Kent Narrows as you 
> might remember. Perhaps we can raft up in Fairlee or Whorton Creeks. 
> Let me know if you get enough interest.
> 
> Ed Thompson
> Bellavia #739
> Edthompson3 at outlook.com
> 
> > On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > This topic has come up a few times in various posts and PMs.    Let's
make
> > it happen.   We are at the very top of the bay (actually technically we
are
> > in the Susquehanna)   Is there still an interest in attempting an
informal
> > "raft up" sometime this year (maybe in September?).
> > 
> > Troy and Kim Dunn
> > S/V Wonky Dog
> > Hull #514
> > Tidewater Marina, Havre De Grace, MD


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 20:59:38 -0400
From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Upper Chesapeake Raft Up
Message-ID:
	<CA+rGV8ahum0_K15UBXDXSz6SXhNQDB8H3W6=fixfoQdzKjH2OQ at mail.gmail.com>
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Worton could work, we really like it far outside there in Beacon Bay.
Lot's of beach for four paws to play.   A little curious to know what it
looks like after last week though, we saw a lot of very large trees,
appliances, etc go by the marina on their way down the bay.   need to do
some scouting there.   Is it better to anchor out for these things or pick
somewhere with options.  Worton inside is nice because you have all three
options.



On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 8:28 PM Edward Thompson <edthompson3 at outlook.com>
wrote:

> Hi Troy! Yes, we?re interested. My boat is in Kent Narrows as you 
> might remember. Perhaps we can raft up in Fairlee or Whorton Creeks. 
> Let me know if you get enough interest.
>
> Ed Thompson
> Bellavia #739
> Edthompson3 at outlook.com
>
> > On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > This topic has come up a few times in various posts and PMs.    Let's
> make
> > it happen.   We are at the very top of the bay (actually technically we
> are
> > in the Susquehanna)   Is there still an interest in attempting an
> informal
> > "raft up" sometime this year (maybe in September?).
> >
> > Troy and Kim Dunn
> > S/V Wonky Dog
> > Hull #514
> > Tidewater Marina, Havre De Grace, MD
>


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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:10:38 -0400
From: Steve Barrar <parep160 at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Cc: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Upper Chesapeake Raft Up
Message-ID: <8174B9B3-12AA-4DA6-AC64-15E7A19CDB81 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I would love to do it depending on when you hook up...I am on the Sassafras.

Rep Stephen Barrar
Chairman House Veteran Affairs, Emergency Preparedness Committee
Pennsylvania House of Representatives. 160th District
717-783-3038 Capitol Office
610-358-5925 Chadds Ford Office 


Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Doug Treff <doug at treff.us> wrote:
> 
> I'm in Rock Creek off the Patapsco River. I'd like to join in if my
schedule lines up. September is a beautiful time of the year to be on the
bay, and a lot less crowded! Worton Creek is a beautiful location. Very
peaceful.
> 
> If someone wants to take the lead on setting this up, let's do it. I would
imagine Warren would be up for it as well.
> 
> We have a few other 320's in my marina, they aren't active on the email
list. Once you have a date, I'll try and talk it up with them.
> 
> --
> Doug Treff
> September Song - 1996 - #350
> doug at treff.us
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, at 8:28 PM, Edward Thompson wrote:
>> Hi Troy! Yes, we?re interested. My boat is in Kent Narrows as you 
>> might remember. Perhaps we can raft up in Fairlee or Whorton Creeks. 
>> Let me know if you get enough interest.
>> 
>> Ed Thompson
>> Bellavia #739
>> Edthompson3 at outlook.com
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This topic has come up a few times in various posts and PMs.    Let's
make
>>> it happen.   We are at the very top of the bay (actually technically we
are
>>> in the Susquehanna)   Is there still an interest in attempting an
informal
>>> "raft up" sometime this year (maybe in September?).
>>> 
>>> Troy and Kim Dunn
>>> S/V Wonky Dog
>>> Hull #514
>>> Tidewater Marina, Havre De Grace, MD



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 21:10:38 -0400
From: Steve Barrar <parep160 at aol.com>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Cc: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Upper Chesapeake Raft Up
Message-ID: <8174B9B3-12AA-4DA6-AC64-15E7A19CDB81 at aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

I would love to do it depending on when you hook up...I am on the Sassafras.

Rep Stephen Barrar
Chairman House Veteran Affairs, Emergency Preparedness Committee
Pennsylvania House of Representatives. 160th District
717-783-3038 Capitol Office
610-358-5925 Chadds Ford Office 


Sent from my iPad

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Doug Treff <doug at treff.us> wrote:
> 
> I'm in Rock Creek off the Patapsco River. I'd like to join in if my
schedule lines up. September is a beautiful time of the year to be on the
bay, and a lot less crowded! Worton Creek is a beautiful location. Very
peaceful.
> 
> If someone wants to take the lead on setting this up, let's do it. I would
imagine Warren would be up for it as well.
> 
> We have a few other 320's in my marina, they aren't active on the email
list. Once you have a date, I'll try and talk it up with them.
> 
> --
> Doug Treff
> September Song - 1996 - #350
> doug at treff.us
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, at 8:28 PM, Edward Thompson wrote:
>> Hi Troy! Yes, we?re interested. My boat is in Kent Narrows as you 
>> might remember. Perhaps we can raft up in Fairlee or Whorton Creeks. 
>> Let me know if you get enough interest.
>> 
>> Ed Thompson
>> Bellavia #739
>> Edthompson3 at outlook.com
>> 
>>> On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:09 PM, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This topic has come up a few times in various posts and PMs.    Let's
make
>>> it happen.   We are at the very top of the bay (actually technically we
are
>>> in the Susquehanna)   Is there still an interest in attempting an
informal
>>> "raft up" sometime this year (maybe in September?).
>>> 
>>> Troy and Kim Dunn
>>> S/V Wonky Dog
>>> Hull #514
>>> Tidewater Marina, Havre De Grace, MD



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 00:26:47 -0400
From: Kevin Rooney <krooney at gmail.com>
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Forward part of the foot of the genoa rubbing on
	lifeline and rail
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I've been wondering this for years about the 320s (and other boats set up
the same way). My genoa is in for cleaning and repair right so it's front of
mind:

Does the forward part of the foot of the genoa get torn up over time for all
of you from rubbing on the lifeline and rail? I don't under stand how it
wouldn't. Or is there something different about my rig? I suppose if the
foot of the sail were higher it wouldn't happen, but you'd lose sail area.

See the circled part of this photo (not my c320): http://kevjot.com/c320.jpg

The sacrificial canvas in that spot on my genoa is shredded, but damage has
also been done to the sail itself.

Just wondering if it just goes with the territory with these boats.

Kevin
S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
Deale, MD
http://kevjot.com/boat/


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 22:15:40 -0700
From: Michael Paris <mparis495 at gmail.com>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission linkage - reverse
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Thank you for the responses. I adjusted the cable at the transmission by
extending it slightly and I tightened up the cable in a few spots. It worked
well in the slip through multiple shifts but I won?t be able to take it out
for a few days.

Mike P.
#734


> On Aug 2, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Doug Treff <doug at treff.us> wrote:
> 
> I saw guidance on here that if the adjustment can't be made, that 
> maybe a new cable is in order.
> 
> If you're going to replace the shift cable, it is recommended that you 
> replace the throttle cable as well. After you complete the job, you'll 
> understand why. When I bought my boat, the surveyor recommended that I 
> replace the throttle cable because it was melted from the heat of the 
> exhaust manifold. I did so. About 6 months later, the shift cable 
> broke and I was doing that difficult job again. Replace them both at 
> the same time and have peace of mind! It will only cost you the extra 
> $50 US for the other cable and it won't add much time to the job.
> 
> Here's a great blog piece on how to do the job. A different make of 
> boat but it's still an Edson Pedestal and the process is the same:
> http://spartina.blogspot.com/2009/05/replacing-throttle-and-shift-cabl
> es.html
> 
> Also, you can get the cables from CatalinaDirect here:
> http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/category/737/controls--cables.
> cfm
> 
> It's a difficult job and you will need a helper but you can save a ton 
> of money if you're willing to do your own work! I replaced mine over a 
> period of two evenings and it works great now.
> Good luck!
> 
> --
> Doug Treff
> doug at treff.us



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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 08:37:03 +0100
From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Forward part of the foot of the genoa rubbing
	on lifeline and rail
Message-ID: <C624E87F-F228-4508-8E04-1628DF429B7C at skyflyer.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Kevin
When I had a new genoa last year I asked the sailmaker to raise the foot so
it doesn?t rub on the rail It also gives me forward visibility when sitting
in the cockpit I don?t notice the loss of sail area, but then again I don?t
race!
Graeme
#366, 1996

Sent from mobile: please excuse typos etc.!


> On 3 Aug 2018, at 05:26, Kevin Rooney <krooney at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've been wondering this for years about the 320s (and other boats set 
> up the same way). My genoa is in for cleaning and repair right so it's 
> front of mind:
> 
> Does the forward part of the foot of the genoa get torn up over time 
> for all of you from rubbing on the lifeline and rail? I don't under 
> stand how it wouldn't. Or is there something different about my rig? I 
> suppose if the foot of the sail were higher it wouldn't happen, but you'd
lose sail area.
> 
> See the circled part of this photo (not my c320): 
> http://kevjot.com/c320.jpg
> 
> The sacrificial canvas in that spot on my genoa is shredded, but 
> damage has also been done to the sail itself.
> 
> Just wondering if it just goes with the territory with these boats.
> 
> Kevin
> S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
> Deale, MD
> http://kevjot.com/boat/



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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 10:17:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New member/basic question
Message-ID: <1292899661.1481712.1533291458740 at mail.yahoo.com>
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While talking about fuel priming.....I wanted to ask what this group thinks
about this "enhancement" I heard about.
If you insert one of those squeeze bulbs (Priming bulbs) into the Diesel
fuel line you can use that to get 95% (if not all) of the air out of the
line.
We have a 90 year old sailor in our club that swears by it. (Still single
hands his Siedleman 30) Instead of loosening injectors or using the little
bitty lever pump, he inserted a squeeze priming bulb in the fuel line and he
claims it speeds up his filter changes significantly.
I know it inserts another place for leaks but any experience with this out
there?? Sounds too simple to not be done by everybody.?
Thanks,
Scott Westwood?scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538??? C
(919)-618-7185

      From: Brad <bkuether at comcast.net>
 To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
 Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 7:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [C320-list] New member/basic question
   
Agree with Troy this is NOT hard to do.

Changing your filters are the MOST important thing you can do, to keep your
diesel running.? Mine has never given me any fits, save for a water pump,
and that was just a thing, not due to lack of maintenance!

1 ? CLOSE OFF THE FUEL VALVE!!!!!? Ask me why I know to say that first.? ?
2 ? Put down paper towels to catch any minor spills.? I block up the weep
holes as well.
3 ? Either drain the racor, or find a way to drop the filter without
spilling.? I have a setup with a plastic coffee can that allows me to drop
it without draining.? YRMV
3 ? Drain out the filter into some type of container.? I use a plastic
coffee can.? See a pattern here?
4 ? Remove the filter from the bowl.? Drain any remaining fuel.
5 ? Wipe out the bowl.? If there is a lot of dirt, you may have to use a
toothbrush or something to get all the dirt out.? Wipe it dry especially if
you had to use water to clean it. 
6 ? Using some of the fuel you drained, put a film on the gasket of the new
filter.? Spin on the bowl. 
7 ? Replace the top gasket that goes on the housing.? Put a film of fuel on
that as well.? Spin it on to the specs on the filter.? (see the diagram)
8 ? Clean up any residual drips or spills, I use 409 as it cuts grease.
9 ? After changing the primary filter, prime using either the racor pump if
you have one, or the fuel pump lift.? I do the latter.? Not sure why, maybe
I like pain.? Check for leaks.? Bleed and fire it up!? 

I will let someone else take you through changing the fuel filter.? I have a
Yanmar 3YM30, and I know a lot of the older boats have the 3GM30F, so I
don?t know exactly how they handle that.? The 3YM30 ?self bleeds? and I
don?t know if the procedure for the 3GM is the same. 

Good luck, have fun, and do this when it?s cool.? ? 

-Brad Kuether
SV Independence
2004 Catalina 320 #1006



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From: Troy Dunn
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 7:06 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] New member/basic question

Jack-

Congrats on your purchase.? Changing that fuel filter is way less
complicated than it looks and you will have plenty of access to it from the
aft berth.? There is a great video for how to change that filter here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub0zfW42mVo ? If you don't have great
maintenance records for the vessel, you might want to consider changing both
the racor and the fuel filter soon.? In my experience you can skip most of
the advice about priming and simply use the racor pump to push fuel to the
injector pump and things should turn over fine.? If not...then you can worry
all the other ideas for getting the injectors primed.

The other potential item to keep an eye on for fuel leaks is the diaphragm
of the fuel lift pump.

If you have a relatively well adjusted stuffing box, you might consider
placing some paper towels in various strategic locations to see if any fuel
is dripping or seeping in any of the places mentioned in the above posts.

Good luck...hope you got it fixed.

Cheers-

Troy Dunn
S/V Wonky Dog
Hull #514

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
wrote:

>
> Hi Jeff:
>
> I'm fairly confident now that the fuel tank is not leaking -- I can't 
> smell diesel anywhere -- but I suppose the proof will come on Monday, 
> when I motor 12 miles over to the boatyard for a bottom job and new 
> standing rigging.
>
> I figure that will cause any wayward fuel to move into the bilge and 
> settle the issue.
>
> Daryl, I did find a smudge of fuel on the banjo itting for the 
> secondary filter, so I am going to replace the washer once I get back 
> from the boatyard.
>
> What a spot for that secondary filter, by the way. I'm not looking 
> forward to changing it. It's hard up against the frame of the engine room.
>
>
> Jack Brennan
> 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
>
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