[C320-list] New Main Sail

Doug Treff doug at treff.us
Fri Feb 2 12:46:55 PST 2018


PO of my boat decommissioned the Dutchman and installed lazy jacks. I've been quite happy with them. The sail is trained fairly well and it flakes on the boom for the most part. I can put a sail tie on the aft part of the boom between the dodger and bimini to further secure the sail until I get a minute to do the rest when safely moored somewhere.

My main is OEM and still has the Dutchman attachment points on it, but I've never bothered to re-rig it. I talked to the Dutchman rep at the Annapolis Boat Show about getting replacement parts to set mine up again but in the end, other projects have been more urgent to demand my dollars elsewhere.

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Doug Treff
doug at treff.us

On Fri, Feb 2, 2018, at 11:09 AM, Scott Westwood wrote:
> Agreed - personal preference.  
> Ours came rigged for Dutchman but the lines were broken and 1 disk was 
> missing. (Chafe disk through hole in sail).  Disk was about 15 bucks 
> each... for a piece of dang plastic, engineered but still a piece of 
> plastic.  I wanted to see how it really works.
> I can only speak to Dutchman.  Takes some getting used to.  Takes time 
> to get everything setup (Topping line twist, "Cars" aligned just right, 
> etc..).  Once it is set though things work pretty well.  You have to get 
> used to using it though, like most things. Example: You have to slack it 
> to raise the sail then remember to tighten before you drop it.  Once you 
> do it a few times it becomes second nature.  It is nice to drop the sail 
> and not have it all over the cabin top.
> Like Karl said though, personal preference.  To me it would be nice to 
> just drop and forget about it. Haven't heard of anything the does that.  
> Even furling mains need specific procedures to roll them up or they jam. 
> ( I hear from fellow sailors) No matter what you do you have trade-offs. 
> Dutchman has a couple of extra steps but sail is mostly gathered for 
> you.
> Another thing (I hear) is Dutchmans work best with new sails.  If you 
> "train" the sail, it almost flakes itself. (Again... I heard).  Our sail 
> is original and it still kind of goes where it wants but it stays on the 
> boom and we flake it "properly" later.  Flaking is easier too since it 
> stays on the boom.
> To me it's better than nothing. In an emergency I can tighten the 
> topping lift and let loose the Main sheet and the sail will say on the 
> boom even if we fall off. With practice, to me, emergency dousing is 
> quicker with some sort of system.   It still flops around but it doesn't 
> re-fill as bad in a hard blow.  My wife normally gathers the sail (she 
> wants/likes to) so, to me,  having it on the boom helps her out.  
> Know nothing about Sailpacks.
> 2 cents. 
> Thanks,
> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net H (919)-362-8538     C (919)-
> 618-7185 
> 
>       From: Karl Krueger <smoothsail282 at gmail.com>
>  To: C320-List at catalina320.com 
>  Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 10:16 AM
>  Subject: Re: [C320-list] New Main Sail
>    
> Tim:
> 
> It's personal preference.  I don't care for the hassle of those systems and
> like to keep the systems on board simple.
> 
> Karl Krueger
> Kindred Spirit #282
> Milwaukee WI
> 
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Good morning group,
> >
> > Has anyone replaced their main sail without a Dutchman or Sailpack? It's
> > not terribly troublesome on the C 28 but sails on our C320s are much
> > larger. I'm just not a big fan of ether system.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> 
> 
> 
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> RE/MAX Realty 100
> Phone - 414-322-6541 
> Fax - 414-327-6870 
> 
> 
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