[C320-list] Fw: Dutchman system monofilament

[Kevin Rooney]

Really good info in this thread.

Thanks, everyone!

Kevin
S/V Cecilia Ann, #211
Deale, MD
http://kevjot.com/boat/



On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:45 PM Jack Fitzgibbon <chuters1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I switched to a lazy jack/stack pack combination in 07.  When hoisting the
> sail the battens frequently snagged on the jack lines.  Even when the boat
> was directly into the wind didn’t guarantee a clean deployment of the main
> sail without on occasional snag.  When dousing the sail I had to slowly
> lower the sail so it fed all the way into the bag without spilling over
> onto the deck.  Also had to leave the cockpit to assist with getting the
> sail in the bag several times.    Never dealt with either of these issues
> when using the Dutchman system.   Absolutely no interference on deployment
> and dousing of the sail, all while being safely positioned in the cockpit
> of the boat.   In my opinion, the hassle factor of using lazy jacks/stack
> pack was much greater then it was when using Dutchman system on a fully
> battened main sail.  I switched back to the Dutchman after 6 weeks of use
> on the other system.   I do have to reinstall the sail cover after each
> sail and when I do I lower the topping lift and stow the Dutchman
> monofilament under the sail cover so it’s not continuously exposed to UV
> light.   Last much longer.
>
> Jack F.
> 97 #441
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 28, 2018, at 9:10 PM, Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> > From: Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 9:09 PM
> > To: Crosby Roper
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
> >
> >
> > Hey Crosby,
> >
> > When the Dutchman worked, it was fine, but not as good as my current
> combo. It also did not work that often.
> >
> > I do not singlehand often, though I have done more recently. I coat my
> sail lugs with McLube spray and the sail will literally drop into the stack
> pack, assuming I am into the wind. Sometimes when raising the sail, if you
> are not directly into the wind, the halyard will catch on a Lazy Jack, and
> we have to bring the bow through the wind to be able to continue raising
> the sail. It is such a small inconvenience, though, for the ease of
> dropping the sail.
> >
> > Where we are at, we often get the waves and current running
> perpendicular to the wind, so spending time at the mast, flaking the sail
> and trying to get the Dutchman to work, for a newbie like me (owned for 2+
> years) can be an adventure similar to riding a bucking bronco‎. That is no
> longer an issue, and I won't own another boat without it. Also, I don't
> mind giving up a bit of performance. I am interested in getting there, not
> how fast I get there.
> >
> > I hope this helps,
> >
> > Jeff
> > '94, #121
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> > From: Crosby Roper
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 8:56 PM
> > To: Jeff Smith; C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
> >
> >
> > Hi Jeff,
> >
> > How would you rate the stack pack/ lazy jacks vs the Dutchman? I'm about
> due for a new main and I'm thinking of switching flaking systems. Are you
> Happy with the stack pack. I do a fair amount of single handing,  so I need
> a system that gets the main down in reasonably good order without my having
> to scramble around a lot
> >
> > Crosby  Roper VMD
> > Catalina 320  #1504
> > ________________________________
> > From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
> Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 5:06 PM
> > To: scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
> >
> > If anyone needs 400-lb monofilament, send me your address privately and
> i'll ship mine to you. I replaced my lines in 2016 and then put a stack
> pack with Lazy Jacks on it in 2017.
> >
> > Jeff
> > '94, #121
> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
> >  Original Message
> > From: scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
> > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 7:57 PM
> > To: allan.field at verizon.net; C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Reply To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
> >
> >
> >    400 lb test is what I used. Holding up for last 4 years.  All I can
> tell you
> > Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone
> >
> >
> >
> > ------ Original message------From: Allan S FieldDate: Fri, Sep 28, 2018
> 17:21To: C320-List at Catalina320.com;Subject:Re: [C320-list] Dutchman
> system monofilament
> > B-40, 400-pound test, is what the copy of my receipt reflects.  I
> ordered directly from Dutchman.  $23.00 for 100 yards in 2012.-----Original
> Message-----From: C320-list [mailto:
> c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kevin RooneySent:
> Friday, September 28, 2018 4:57 PMTo: C320-List at catalina320.comSubject:
> [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilamentI need to replace the monofilament
> in the Dutchman flaking system on my '95 c320. Does anyone know which
> "system" I should order?30-2?, 30-3?, 40-2?, 40-3? etc...
> http://dutchmar.com/products/sail-flaking-products/mono-control-lineThanks.KevinS/V
> Cecilia Ann, #211Deale, MDhttp://kevjot.com/boat/
>