[C320-list] Fw: Dutchman system monofilament

[Jack Fitzgibbon]

I switched to a lazy jack/stack pack combination in 07.  When hoisting the sail the battens frequently snagged on the jack lines.  Even when the boat was directly into the wind didn’t guarantee a clean deployment of the main sail without on occasional snag.  When dousing the sail I had to slowly lower the sail so it fed all the way into the bag without spilling over onto the deck.  Also had to leave the cockpit to assist with getting the sail in the bag several times.    Never dealt with either of these issues when using the Dutchman system.   Absolutely no interference on deployment and dousing of the sail, all while being safely positioned in the cockpit of the boat.   In my opinion, the hassle factor of using lazy jacks/stack pack was much greater then it was when using Dutchman system on a fully battened main sail.  I switched back to the Dutchman after 6 weeks of use on the other system.   I do have to reinstall the sail cover after each sail and when I do I lower the topping lift and stow the Dutchman monofilament under the sail cover so it’s not continuously exposed to UV light.   Last much longer.

Jack F.
97 #441



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> On Sep 28, 2018, at 9:10 PM, Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com> wrote:
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> From: Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 9:09 PM
> To: Crosby Roper
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
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> Hey Crosby,
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> When the Dutchman worked, it was fine, but not as good as my current combo. It also did not work that often.
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> I do not singlehand often, though I have done more recently. I coat my sail lugs with McLube spray and the sail will literally drop into the stack pack, assuming I am into the wind. Sometimes when raising the sail, if you are not directly into the wind, the halyard will catch on a Lazy Jack, and we have to bring the bow through the wind to be able to continue raising the sail. It is such a small inconvenience, though, for the ease of dropping the sail.
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> Where we are at, we often get the waves and current running perpendicular to the wind, so spending time at the mast, flaking the sail and trying to get the Dutchman to work, for a newbie like me (owned for 2+ years) can be an adventure similar to riding a bucking bronco‎. That is no longer an issue, and I won't own another boat without it. Also, I don't mind giving up a bit of performance. I am interested in getting there, not how fast I get there.
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> I hope this helps,
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> Jeff
> '94, #121
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> From: Crosby Roper
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 8:56 PM
> To: Jeff Smith; C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
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> Hi Jeff,
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> How would you rate the stack pack/ lazy jacks vs the Dutchman? I'm about due for a new main and I'm thinking of switching flaking systems. Are you Happy with the stack pack. I do a fair amount of single handing,  so I need a system that gets the main down in reasonably good order without my having to scramble around a lot
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> Crosby  Roper VMD
> Catalina 320  #1504
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> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Jeff Smith <jeffreyssmith at live.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 5:06 PM
> To: scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
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> If anyone needs 400-lb monofilament, send me your address privately and i'll ship mine to you. I replaced my lines in 2016 and then put a stack pack with Lazy Jacks on it in 2017.
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> Jeff
> '94, #121
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>  Original Message
> From: scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 7:57 PM
> To: allan.field at verizon.net; C320-List at Catalina320.com
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
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>    400 lb test is what I used. Holding up for last 4 years.  All I can tell you
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> ------ Original message------From: Allan S FieldDate: Fri, Sep 28, 2018 17:21To: C320-List at Catalina320.com;Subject:Re: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilament
> B-40, 400-pound test, is what the copy of my receipt reflects.  I ordered directly from Dutchman.  $23.00 for 100 yards in 2012.-----Original Message-----From: C320-list [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Kevin RooneySent: Friday, September 28, 2018 4:57 PMTo: C320-List at catalina320.comSubject: [C320-list] Dutchman system monofilamentI need to replace the monofilament in the Dutchman flaking system on my '95 c320. Does anyone know which "system" I should order?30-2?, 30-3?, 40-2?, 40-3? etc...http://dutchmar.com/products/sail-flaking-products/mono-control-lineThanks.KevinS/V Cecilia Ann, #211Deale, MDhttp://kevjot.com/boat/