[C320-list] Water in the Bilge

[Michael Leschisin]

Hey Guy,

Thanks for all the info regarding water in the bilge.

Just as a follow up to last week in case anyone is experiencing similar issues….I called Catalina technical services last week and their answer to my question about water entering the bilge through the mast base was that yes, there is a opening where the mast wiring enters the cabin top/mast base and runs through the compression post and into the bilge.  They also said there is a two inch standpipe inside the mast on top of this hole to deter water from entering and that many dealers, when setting up the boat, will fill this with silicon to close it off.  Apparently mine didn’t, so I’ll check that out next time I unstep the mast.  Does anyone presently have their mast unstepped and are able to confirm this arraignment?

My guess is that I have water entering via the halyard openings as it runs down the mast, since I had ice blocked up primarily in the front of the bilge.  I dug out about a gallon and a half of slushy somewhat diluted antifreeze from bilge in minus 10 degree weather this weekend and replaced it with fresh minus one hundred.  We’re headed for a low of -23 with a 50 below windchill Wednesday night and then 38 degrees and a chance of rain again on Sunday!  Guess I’ll see how many holes in the mast I can stop up on Saturday.


Michael

Michael Leschisin
#995, Wild Blue Yonder
Menominee, MI





> On Jan 25, 2019, at 10:49 AM, Gerald Rouillard <pearson39b at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Mike,
> After I replaced all my leaking portlights, I was able to dry out my bilge and get it painted.  That helped me find what was still leaking, and I've pretty much pinned it down to the starboard stanchion that serves as the forward gate-post for the cockpit.  Not a big leak, and it only shows up after a heavy rain - or wash job - so I know it's not below the waterline.  
> 
> Interesting how long it took for me to realize my old standard, the salt water "taste test" didn't have any relevance for a boat sitting in fresh water!
> 
> Sailor Jerry,
> Wind Song, #283
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Joe Luciano <jnluciano at comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I typically have a dry bilge on my 320, but I don’t think it’s likely that the mast wiring is bringing it in unless you see moisture right where the wiring comes in from above the deck.  I’ve seen water get to the bilge from strange places on boats that I have owned.  One method I’ve used to see where the water is coming from is to take pieces of paper towel and place them in areas above the low point in the bilge to get an idea of the direction the water is coming from.  Then I try to trace it back to the source.  You could have a leak through a stanchion connection to the deck, window, the chain plate areas, or elsewhere from plumbing.  These can be very difficult to pinpoint with relatively small amounts of water.  The other method when all else fails involves pressurizing the cabin slightly with air pressure and soaping various connections to look for bubbles on the outside of the deck.  I’ve seen that done in a boat yard, but have never had to do it myself.  Best of Luck!
>> 
>> Joe Luciano
>> Second Wind
>> 2005 Catalina 320
>> Anacortes, WA
>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Bob Hoyt <rehoyt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t see any after a rain storm but want to hear from others
>>> Bob Hoyt
>>> Ikigai
>>> #58
>>> Pensacola Fl
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 4:43 PM Michael Leschisin <
>>> mleschisin at imagestudios.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> For anyone who’s willing to provide some feedback,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m wondering how much water is normal to find in the bilge following a
>>>> good rainstorm.  My wife and I purchased our 320 a little over a year ago
>>>> and I typically find about a pint or two of water in the bilge after a
>>>> healthy rainstorm.  I’m guessing this is normal and coming in via the mast
>>>> and compression post since there seems to be a drain hole in the bilge just
>>>> under the compression post base near where the mast and radar wiring exits
>>>> the post.
>>>> 
>>>> Earlier this week I went up to the boat, which is on the hard for the
>>>> winter, and much to my horror, found about a quart and a half of frozen
>>>> water in the front of the three bilge compartments. (But only in the
>>>> forward compartment)  Fortunately, the water floated above the -100
>>>> antifreeze I had in the bilge before it froze, so none of the keel bolts or
>>>> the pump were affected, but scary none the less.  We had a fair amount of
>>>> rain this fall and even in early January, but this seems like a lot of
>>>> water, especially for a boat that is under a winter cover with no way for
>>>> water to hit the decks, cockpit, port lights, hatches, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> I’m wondering if this amount is a normal compilation of this season’s
>>>> rainfall or if I need to trouble shoot some other problem.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Leschisin
>>>> #995, Wild Blue Yonder
>>>> Menominee, MI
>>>> 
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