[C320-list] Water in the Bilge
pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com
pclaytor at tampabay.rr.com
Tue Jan 29 10:25:36 PST 2019
I too thought my water was coming from the mast and laid out paper
towels around the mast and sides of the bilge. Nope! Seem the water is
coming in from somewhere in the stern area.
Patricia #736 Knot HomeRiverview, FL
-----------------------------------------From: "Michael Leschisin"
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Sent: Monday January 28 2019 4:47:23PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in the Bilge
Thanks Graeme,
I’ll have to give the boat a good testing this spring and see if I
have water entering from any of those areas. I like Jack’s idea of
using the chalk. (That sounds like a good plan of action.Thanks Jack)
The reason I’m kind of obsessing over the mast base is that I had
about a quart and a half of solid ice only in the forward of the three
bilge compartments, none in the other compartments, no ice under the
floorboards on the edges of the bilge. The ice was frozen above the
antifreeze, not mixed with it, as though water had come slowly into
the front of the bilge and froze on contact with the antifreeze that
would have been below 32 degrees at the time. Don’t know if thats
right, but the only explanation I can come up with for a pretty weird
ice set……
Not sure which is more fun, chasing water leaks or chasing electrical
shorts!
Michael
Michael Leschisin
#995, Wild Blue Yonder
Menominee, MI
> On Jan 28, 2019, at 3:11 PM, Graeme Clark wrote:
>
> Disassembled mast step photos are available on the main site under
technical photos here (see Mast Step Project)
>
> https://c320.org/mediagallery/album.php?aid=4&sort=0&page=8
/> >
> I would bet $10 to 10c that your bilge water isn't coming through
the mast step at all though but arriving between the hull and the
liner through leaks at the base of the stanchions, pulpit, and
pushpin.
> Also if the cockpit and lazaretto lockers get deluged and the
gutters aren't kept clean water can overflow into the hull, as it also
can through the joint of the hinge on the port cockpit locker.
>
> How do i know? I completely waterproofed my mast-step when I
replaced the standing rigging and I still get water in the bilge!
>
> Graeme
> 1996, #366
>
>> On 28 Jan 2019, at 21:00, John Meyers wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> It is cold here in Muskegon Michigan too but we can thank that big
lake we
>> sail on to keep us several degrees warmer than those on the west
side. On
>> the other hand we get a LOT of lake effect snow too.
>>
>> I sort of remember (but cannot verify as I don't have water in my
bilge
>> from the mast) that there may be a hole in the step that allows
water to
>> drain out. But that hole may be plugged with goop or some sort.
Use a wire
>> and poke around the step. If not maybe you could drill a very
small hole in
>> the mast to drain the water onto the deck.
>>
>> John Meyers
>> Wind Chime #406
>> Muskegon, MI
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 10:11 AM Michael Leschisin <
>> mleschisin at imagestudios.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Guy,
>>>
>>> Thanks for all the info regarding water in the bilge.
>>>
>>> Just as a follow up to last week in case anyone is experiencing
similar
>>> issues….I called Catalina technical services last week and
their answer to
>>> my question about water entering the bilge through the mast base
was that
>>> yes, there is a opening where the mast wiring enters the cabin
top/mast
>>> base and runs through the compression post and into the bilge.
They also
>>> said there is a two inch standpipe inside the mast on top of this
hole to
>>> deter water from entering and that many dealers, when setting up
the boat,
>>> will fill this with silicon to close it off. Apparently mine
didn’t, so
>>> I’ll check that out next time I unstep the mast. Does anyone
presently
>>> have their mast unstepped and are able to confirm this
arraignment?
>>>
>>> My guess is that I have water entering via the halyard openings
as it runs
>>> down the mast, since I had ice blocked up primarily in the front
of the
>>> bilge. I dug out about a gallon and a half of slushy somewhat
diluted
>>> antifreeze from bilge in minus 10 degree weather this weekend and
replaced
>>> it with fresh minus one hundred. We’re headed for a low of -23
with a 50
>>> below windchill Wednesday night and then 38 degrees and a chance
of rain
>>> again on Sunday! Guess I’ll see how many holes in the mast I
can stop up
>>> on Saturday.
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Michael Leschisin
>>> #995, Wild Blue Yonder
>>> Menominee, MI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 25, 2019, at 10:49 AM, Gerald Rouillard
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mike,
>>>> After I replaced all my leaking portlights, I was able to dry
out my
>>> bilge and get it painted. That helped me find what was still
leaking, and
>>> I've pretty much pinned it down to the starboard stanchion that
serves as
>>> the forward gate-post for the cockpit. Not a big leak, and it
only shows
>>> up after a heavy rain - or wash job - so I know it's not below
the
>>> waterline.
>>>>
>>>> Interesting how long it took for me to realize my old standard,
the salt
>>> water "taste test" didn't have any relevance for a boat sitting
in fresh
>>> water!
>>>>
>>>> Sailor Jerry,
>>>> Wind Song, #283
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 3:29 PM, Joe Luciano wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I typically have a dry bilge on my 320, but I don’t think
it’s likely
>>> that the mast wiring is bringing it in unless you see moisture
right where
>>> the wiring comes in from above the deck. I’ve seen water get to
the bilge
>>> from strange places on boats that I have owned. One method I’ve
used to
>>> see where the water is coming from is to take pieces of paper
towel and
>>> place them in areas above the low point in the bilge to get an
idea of the
>>> direction the water is coming from. Then I try to trace it back
to the
>>> source. You could have a leak through a stanchion connection to
the deck,
>>> window, the chain plate areas, or elsewhere from plumbing. These
can be
>>> very difficult to pinpoint with relatively small amounts of
water. The
>>> other method when all else fails involves pressurizing the cabin
slightly
>>> with air pressure and soaping various connections to look for
bubbles on
>>> the outside of the deck. I’ve seen that done in a boat yard,
but have
>>> never had to do it myself. Best of Luck!
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Luciano
>>>>> Second Wind
>>>>> 2005 Catalina 320
>>>>> Anacortes, WA
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 24, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Bob Hoyt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don’t see any after a rain storm but want to hear from
others
>>>>>> Bob Hoyt
>>>>>> Ikigai
>>>>>> #58
>>>>>> Pensacola Fl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 4:43 PM Michael Leschisin <
>>>>>> mleschisin at imagestudios.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For anyone who’s willing to provide some feedback,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m wondering how much water is normal to find in the bilge
following
>>> a
>>>>>>> good rainstorm. My wife and I purchased our 320 a little over
a year
>>> ago
>>>>>>> and I typically find about a pint or two of water in the
bilge after a
>>>>>>> healthy rainstorm. I’m guessing this is normal and coming
in via the
>>> mast
>>>>>>> and compression post since there seems to be a drain hole in
the
>>> bilge just
>>>>>>> under the compression post base near where the mast and radar
wiring
>>> exits
>>>>>>> the post.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Earlier this week I went up to the boat, which is on the hard
for the
>>>>>>> winter, and much to my horror, found about a quart and a half
of
>>> frozen
>>>>>>> water in the front of the three bilge compartments. (But only
in the
>>>>>>> forward compartment) Fortunately, the water floated above the
-100
>>>>>>> antifreeze I had in the bilge before it froze, so none of the
keel
>>> bolts or
>>>>>>> the pump were affected, but scary none the less. We had a
fair
>>> amount of
>>>>>>> rain this fall and even in early January, but this seems like
a lot of
>>>>>>> water, especially for a boat that is under a winter cover
with no way
>>> for
>>>>>>> water to hit the decks, cockpit, port lights, hatches, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m wondering if this amount is a normal compilation of
this season’s
>>>>>>> rainfall or if I need to trouble shoot some other problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for the help,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Michael Leschisin
>>>>>>> #995, Wild Blue Yonder
>>>>>>> Menominee, MI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Robert (Bob) Hoyt MD FACP*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *CAPT (Ret) USN*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Associate Clinical Professor, Department of Internal
Medicine*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Virginia Commonwealth University*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Richmond, VA*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>
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>>>>>>
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Professions*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *University of Nebraska Medical Center*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Omaha, NE*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Diplomate, Clinical Informatics*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> InformaticsEducation.org >>>>> rehoyt at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> robert.hoyt at unmc.edu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cell: 850-384-5235
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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