[C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
SARA SCHROEDER
saras951 at comcast.net
Sat Nov 16 10:32:20 PST 2019
David,
I have a 2000 320 (hull #707) and keep her at Shilshole Bay Marina in Ballard. Would love to connect with the new owner for a dual sail!
I can't comment on the RayMarine issue. However, a couple of years ago I had the same problem with a delay in starting the engine. It was most worrisome when away from the dock and trying to power her up to bring the crew back to the marina. I replaced the starter switch and have had zero problems since. I bought the replacement at Hatton Marine for $33. Hatton is in old Ballard along the ship canal and they are awesome! Note that even though the Hatton guys said the part is "plug and play" it never works out that way. I had to bore out the hole to get the new part in and vaguely remember a few other hiccups but otherwise it was a reasonably quick replacement. Good luck.
Sara
Wandering Star
2000/#707
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Galley Shelf (SARA SCHROEDER)
> 2. Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Replacement and
> Intermittent Start Button (Utility Comcast)
> 3. Re: Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Replacement
> andIntermittent Start Button (Chris Burti)
> 4. Re: Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Replacement and
> Intermittent Start Button (Allan Field)
> 5. Re: Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Replacement and
> Intermittent Start Button (Joe Luciano)
> 6. Re: Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Replacementand
> Intermittent Start Button (Jack Brennan)
> 7. Re: Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Repl (Scott Westwood)
> 8. Re: Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Replacement and
> Intermittent Start Button (Dan)
> 9. Re: Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Replacementand
> Intermittent Start Button (Chris Burti)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:13:25 -0800 (PST)
> From: SARA SCHROEDER <saras951 at comcast.net>
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com,
> c320-list-request at lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> Message-ID: <1727474991.241189.1573870405675 at connect.xfinity.com>
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> Amen Jeff! Can't count the number of times I've hit my head on that shelf.
> Mine holds acrylic wine glasses.
> Sara
> Wandering Star / 2000 / #707
> Seattle, WA
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> > 1. Galley Shelf (David Veeneman)
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> > 3. Re: Galley Shelf (jackbrennan)
> > 4. Re: Galley Shelf (conneelythomas at aol.com)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 08:31:49 -0800
> > From: David Veeneman <davidv at veeneman.com>
> > To: C320 Assn Forum <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> > Message-ID: <83A22F3D-821F-4126-A8F0-09B07D6EBF98 at veeneman.com>
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> > Most C320s have a hanging shelf over the galley, but mine is an early 320
> > that doesn?t have the feature. Does anyone make a kit to retrofit this
> > shelf? Thanks
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > Dana Point, CA
> > SV Adelante, C320 #131
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 12:25:19 -0500
> > From: "Jeff Hare" <Catalina at thehares.com>
> > To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> > Message-ID: <02a101d59bd9$a854dcc0$f8fe9640$@thehares.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Oh, you mean that lump of teak that the rest of us hit our head on in the
> > spring when reaching for the faucet?
> >
> > Don't know about a retrofit offhand, but the factory could probably answer
> > that for you.
> > -Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of David
> > Veeneman
> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 11:32 AM
> > To: C320 Assn Forum <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> >
> > Most C320s have a hanging shelf over the galley, but mine is an early 320
> > that doesn?t have the feature. Does anyone make a kit to retrofit this
> > shelf? Thanks
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > Dana Point, CA
> > SV Adelante, C320 #131
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 17:42:13 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: jackbrennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
> > To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> > Message-ID: <307404508.564207.1573839733289 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > My wife uses it to hold the dish rack.
> >
> > Jack Brennan
> > Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> > Tierra Verde, Fl
> > Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 12:25 PM, Jeff Hare<Catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
> > Oh, you mean that lump of teak that the rest of us hit our head on in the
> > spring when reaching for the faucet?
> >
> > Don't know about a retrofit offhand, but the factory could probably answer
> > that for you.
> > -Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of David
> > Veeneman
> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 11:32 AM
> > To: C320 Assn Forum <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> >
> > Most C320s have a hanging shelf over the galley, but mine is an early 320
> > that doesn?t have the feature. Does anyone make a kit to retrofit this
> > shelf? Thanks
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > Dana Point, CA
> > SV Adelante, C320 #131
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:19:11 +0000 (UTC)
> > From: conneelythomas at aol.com
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> > Message-ID: <1305798429.1600990.1573849151392 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > I install a teak paper towel rack below? the rack. Very need .
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jeff Hare <Catalina at thehares.com>
> > To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Fri, Nov 15, 2019 12:25 pm
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> >
> > Oh, you mean that lump of teak that the rest of us hit our head on in the
> > spring when reaching for the faucet?
> >
> > Don't know about a retrofit offhand, but the factory could probably answer
> > that for you.
> > -Jeff
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of David
> > Veeneman
> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 11:32 AM
> > To: C320 Assn Forum <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Subject: [C320-list] Galley Shelf
> >
> > Most C320s have a hanging shelf over the galley, but mine is an early 320
> > that doesn?t have the feature. Does anyone make a kit to retrofit this
> > shelf? Thanks
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > Dana Point, CA
> > SV Adelante, C320 #131
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > End of C320-list Digest, Vol 3608, Issue 1
> > ******************************************
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 23:57:49 -0800
> From: Utility Comcast <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> To: C320IA List Server <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Cc: Robert Blix <Mach.80 at comcast.net>, Utility Email
> <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
> Repair/Replacement and Intermittent Start Button
> Message-ID: <1DD534EA-EDD7-44A9-B5FF-96656ADEF591 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Fellow C320IA Owners,
>
> A new C320IA Owner/Friend of mine that recently bought our C320 MK II has a
> few questions for you all. His name is Robert Blix and he is the proud new
> owner of S/V Journey, formerly our S/V Emily Ann, a 2007 C320 MK II, No. 1107.
> that he sails out of Edmonds, Washington. Rob has signed up for the C320IA,
> but doesn?t quite have email access yet, so I am sending this email on his
> behalf and forwarding your responses to him. I have been talking up how
> valuable the C320IA is and the advice and suggestions from our fellow members,
> so I would like to share with him any experience, advice and/or suggestions
> you all would have for him with two recent problems that he has encountered.
>
> So a couple of questions on Rob?s behalf:
>
> 1. His 2007 C320 MKII, No. 1107, has the original RayMarine instruments, the
> C80 Chartplotter, Autopilot, Radar, Wind Indicator, and Tridata with a ACR AIS
> connected to the system and the factory ICOM's VHF antenna. The
> instrumentation package has been reliable and great until last week when the
> C80 chart plotter screen started flickering and now it is just showing colored
> vertical lines across the screen. It is un-useable. So, our questions are:
>
> a. Has this happened to anyone else with a 12 year old RayMarine chart
> plotter? If so, did you repair/replace or upgrade it?
> b. If you repaired, how did you do that and who did you use? Any
> recommendations?
> c. If you replaced it, did anyone buy a used one off of eBay and do a ?plug
> and play? replacement?
> d. Would it be possible to upgrade the C80 with a E80 chart plotter or even a
> working used larger screen E120 chart plotter and still use the rest of the
> existing RayMarine equipment? We are not sure where to determine
> compatibility. The RayMarine factory has not been that helpful for the repair
> of an older unit. It seems like they just want to sell the newer Axiom units.
> e. If you upgraded with a new unit, what is the consensus, RayMarine or
> Garmin? If RayMarine, can you still use the existing Autopilot, wind
> indicator, speed/depth, etc or do these need to be upgraded as well to work
> with the new integrated chart plotter systems?
> f. If you selected to upgrade to the Garmin system, how much of the older
> working RayMarine equipment can still be used? Can the existing cabling for
> the wind indicator be used with the Garmin wind indicator? Can the RayMarine
> autopilot interface wit a new Garmin Chartplotter?
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. The cost of upgrading the entire
> system seems like it might be cost prohibitive compared to replacing the C80
> with a similar used unit or seeking a repair, but Rob and I are both curious
> about what other C320 owners have done and sage advice that you may all have.
>
>
> 2. Recently, the Yanmar 3YM30 engine has a delay when the start button is
> pushed. Rob explains it like "after he turns on the key, he has to press the
> start button several time before the engine turns over. It is like power is
> not getting to the starter until several pushes of the start button.? The
> batteries are fully charged, and the Yanmar engine starting and cockpit
> instrument panel system seems energized. Has anyone had this happen to them
> and did they ever find the culprit? Loose wire or connection, corroded or
> worn out start button, corroded connections, too much voltage drop from a
> corroded connection from the start switch to the starter solenoid, etc.
> Again, any troubleshooting advice or similar experiences for Rob would be
> super appreciated.
>
> Thank you all for weighing in n these issues for Rob. Our C320IA owners group
> is an invaluable resource.
>
> Thanks again for you help!
>
> Dave
>
> David B. Swanson, P.E., S.E.
> LEED AP/F. SEI
> Structural Engineer
> (425) 508-7971 mobile
> kswanson123 at comcast.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 07:19:10 -0500
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
> Repair/Replacement andIntermittent Start Button
> Message-ID: <5dcfe93f.1c69fb81.a8211.1ec5 at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I would suggest first checking the connections in the pod for the start button
> and key and then move to the engine and starter connections as the most likely
> culprits for the start hesitation.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Burti
> Commitment, #867
> Farmville, NC
>
> From: Utility Comcast
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 2:58 AM
> To: C320IA List Server
> Cc: Robert Blix
> Subject: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Replacement
> andIntermittent Start Button
>
> Fellow C320IA Owners,
>
> A new C320IA Owner/Friend of mine that recently bought our C320 MK II has a
> few questions for you all. His name is Robert Blix and he is the proud new
> owner of S/V Journey, formerly our S/V Emily Ann, a 2007 C320 MK II, No. 1107.
> that he sails out of Edmonds, Washington. Rob has signed up for the C320IA,
> but doesn?t quite have email access yet, so I am sending this email on his
> behalf and forwarding your responses to him. I have been talking up how
> valuable the C320IA is and the advice and suggestions from our fellow members,
> so I would like to share with him any experience, advice and/or suggestions
> you all would have for him with two recent problems that he has encountered.
>
> So a couple of questions on Rob?s behalf:
>
> 1. His 2007 C320 MKII, No. 1107, has the original RayMarine instruments, the
> C80 Chartplotter, Autopilot, Radar, Wind Indicator, and Tridata with a ACR AIS
> connected to the system and the factory ICOM's VHF antenna. The
> instrumentation package has been reliable and great until last week when the
> C80 chart plotter screen started flickering and now it is just showing colored
> vertical lines across the screen. It is un-useable. So, our questions are:
>
> a. Has this happened to anyone else with a 12 year old RayMarine chart
> plotter? If so, did you repair/replace or upgrade it?
> b. If you repaired, how did you do that and who did you use? Any
> recommendations?
> c. If you replaced it, did anyone buy a used one off of eBay and do a ?plug
> and play? replacement?
> d. Would it be possible to upgrade the C80 with a E80 chart plotter or even a
> working used larger screen E120 chart plotter and still use the rest of the
> existing RayMarine equipment? We are not sure where to determine
> compatibility. The RayMarine factory has not been that helpful for the repair
> of an older unit. It seems like they just want to sell the newer Axiom units.
> e. If you upgraded with a new unit, what is the consensus, RayMarine or
> Garmin? If RayMarine, can you still use the existing Autopilot, wind
> indicator, speed/depth, etc or do these need to be upgraded as well to work
> with the new integrated chart plotter systems?
> f. If you selected to upgrade to the Garmin system, how much of the older
> working RayMarine equipment can still be used? Can the existing cabling for
> the wind indicator be used with the Garmin wind indicator? Can the RayMarine
> autopilot interface wit a new Garmin Chartplotter?
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. The cost of upgrading the entire
> system seems like it might be cost prohibitive compared to replacing the C80
> with a similar used unit or seeking a repair, but Rob and I are both curious
> about what other C320 owners have done and sage advice that you may all have.
>
>
> 2. Recently, the Yanmar 3YM30 engine has a delay when the start button is
> pushed. Rob explains it like "after he turns on the key, he has to press the
> start button several time before the engine turns over. It is like power is
> not getting to the starter until several pushes of the start button.? The
> batteries are fully charged, and the Yanmar engine starting and cockpit
> instrument panel system seems energized. Has anyone had this happen to them
> and did they ever find the culprit? Loose wire or connection, corroded or
> worn out start button, corroded connections, too much voltage drop from a
> corroded connection from the start switch to the starter solenoid, etc.
> Again, any troubleshooting advice or similar experiences for Rob would be
> super appreciated.
>
> Thank you all for weighing in n these issues for Rob. Our C320IA owners group
> is an invaluable resource.
>
> Thanks again for you help!
>
> Dave
>
> David B. Swanson, P.E., S.E.
> LEED AP/F. SEI
> Structural Engineer
> (425) 508-7971 mobile
> kswanson123 at comcast.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 08:38:31 -0500
> From: Allan Field <allanfield47 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
> Repair/Replacement and Intermittent Start Button
> Message-ID:
> <CA+tGYSZzLY32pvgU1Aui9oCOyLOXfjBR=jqegdJf4trww+ExNA at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> Hi Dave - When we purchased our C387 3 years ago, we had the same issues
> with the chartplotter that you are describing. The issues were found at
> survey so the PO had them fixed. The unit was sent back to Raymarine,
> repaired, and was returned withing something like 2 weeks. There also is a
> guy in Durango, CO who services Raymarine equipment and has a good
> reputation, based on everything I have heard about him. I even sold him
> some excess parts a few years ago. His name is Dan Gerhardt,
> C250 at mydurango.net. I would recommend that your questions also be directed
> to Dan. As for changing out the Raymarine instruments, I believe that the
> real question is how to interface old SeaTalk instruments with newer NG
> (next generation) instruments. I have seen a lot of stuff out there in the
> past on NG but don't remember the solutions but my aging memory is that
> there are incompatibility issues, meaning everything may need to be changed
> out. Hope this helps...
> Allan S. Field
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:58 AM Utility Comcast <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Fellow C320IA Owners,
> >
> > A new C320IA Owner/Friend of mine that recently bought our C320 MK II has
> > a few questions for you all. His name is Robert Blix and he is the proud
> > new owner of S/V Journey, formerly our S/V Emily Ann, a 2007 C320 MK II,
> > No. 1107. that he sails out of Edmonds, Washington. Rob has signed up for
> > the C320IA, but doesn?t quite have email access yet, so I am sending this
> > email on his behalf and forwarding your responses to him. I have been
> > talking up how valuable the C320IA is and the advice and suggestions from
> > our fellow members, so I would like to share with him any experience,
> > advice and/or suggestions you all would have for him with two recent
> > problems that he has encountered.
> >
> > So a couple of questions on Rob?s behalf:
> >
> > 1. His 2007 C320 MKII, No. 1107, has the original RayMarine instruments,
> > the C80 Chartplotter, Autopilot, Radar, Wind Indicator, and Tridata with a
> > ACR AIS connected to the system and the factory ICOM's VHF antenna. The
> > instrumentation package has been reliable and great until last week when
> > the C80 chart plotter screen started flickering and now it is just showing
> > colored vertical lines across the screen. It is un-useable. So, our
> > questions are:
> >
> > a. Has this happened to anyone else with a 12 year old RayMarine chart
> > plotter? If so, did you repair/replace or upgrade it?
> > b. If you repaired, how did you do that and who did you use? Any
> > recommendations?
> > c. If you replaced it, did anyone buy a used one off of eBay and do a
> > ?plug and play? replacement?
> > d. Would it be possible to upgrade the C80 with a E80 chart plotter or
> > even a working used larger screen E120 chart plotter and still use the rest
> > of the existing RayMarine equipment? We are not sure where to determine
> > compatibility. The RayMarine factory has not been that helpful for the
> > repair of an older unit. It seems like they just want to sell the newer
> > Axiom units.
> > e. If you upgraded with a new unit, what is the consensus, RayMarine or
> > Garmin? If RayMarine, can you still use the existing Autopilot, wind
> > indicator, speed/depth, etc or do these need to be upgraded as well to work
> > with the new integrated chart plotter systems?
> > f. If you selected to upgrade to the Garmin system, how much of the older
> > working RayMarine equipment can still be used? Can the existing cabling
> > for the wind indicator be used with the Garmin wind indicator? Can the
> > RayMarine autopilot interface wit a new Garmin Chartplotter?
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. The cost of upgrading the entire
> > system seems like it might be cost prohibitive compared to replacing the
> > C80 with a similar used unit or seeking a repair, but Rob and I are both
> > curious about what other C320 owners have done and sage advice that you may
> > all have.
> >
> > 2. Recently, the Yanmar 3YM30 engine has a delay when the start button is
> > pushed. Rob explains it like "after he turns on the key, he has to press
> > the start button several time before the engine turns over. It is like
> > power is not getting to the starter until several pushes of the start
> > button.? The batteries are fully charged, and the Yanmar engine starting
> > and cockpit instrument panel system seems energized. Has anyone had this
> > happen to them and did they ever find the culprit? Loose wire or
> > connection, corroded or worn out start button, corroded connections, too
> > much voltage drop from a corroded connection from the start switch to the
> > starter solenoid, etc. Again, any troubleshooting advice or similar
> > experiences for Rob would be super appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you all for weighing in n these issues for Rob. Our C320IA owners
> > group is an invaluable resource.
> >
> > Thanks again for you help!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David B. Swanson, P.E., S.E.
> > LEED AP/F. SEI
> > Structural Engineer
> > (425) 508-7971 mobile
> > kswanson123 at comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 07:46:37 -0800
> From: Joe Luciano <jnluciano at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
> Repair/Replacement and Intermittent Start Button
> Message-ID: <22956E70-1276-4E47-AB88-727DAB4CF8AD at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> i have a 2005 C-320, #1024 with the same Raymarine instrument systems. My C80
> chart plotter did the same thing about 3 years ago. I was able to fix the C80
> with the help of a friend that works in the computer business. The issue I
> ran into stems from years of a small vibration at the pedestal stemming from
> use of the autopilot. Over time, this vibration affected the two ribbon power
> strips just inside on the bottom of the unit. My computer friend indicated
> that this was common with computer monitors that his company travels with,
> setting them up, taking them down and moving them constantly. We basically
> opened the unit up from its case, and he re-seated the two ribbon power
> strips, and the problem was fixed!! The difficulty today with electronics /
> instruments of this age is that people no longer repair things routinely.
> Everything is replaced and the old stuff is thrown into the landfill. While
> I can?t promise your problem is going to be the same as mine, I would suggestt
> t
> aking your C80 to a computer repair center of some sort and ask for a
> technician that could reseat the ribbon power strips for you. Worst case, it
> will cost you 30 minutes of labor and not be the problem. But, if it is, like
> on mine, you can breathe life into 20+ year old instrument systems and maybe
> get another 10 years out of them!! Best of luck!
>
> Joe Luciano
> Second Wind
> 2005 C-320
>
> > On Nov 15, 2019, at 11:57 PM, Utility Comcast <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Fellow C320IA Owners,
> >
> > A new C320IA Owner/Friend of mine that recently bought our C320 MK II has a
> > few questions for you all. His name is Robert Blix and he is the proud new
> > owner of S/V Journey, formerly our S/V Emily Ann, a 2007 C320 MK II, No.
> > 1107. that he sails out of Edmonds, Washington. Rob has signed up for the
> > C320IA, but doesn?t quite have email access yet, so I am sending this email
> > on his behalf and forwarding your responses to him. I have been talking up
> > how valuable the C320IA is and the advice and suggestions from our fellow
> > members, so I would like to share with him any experience, advice and/or
> > suggestions you all would have for him with two recent problems that he has
> > encountered.
> >
> > So a couple of questions on Rob?s behalf:
> >
> > 1. His 2007 C320 MKII, No. 1107, has the original RayMarine instruments, the
> > C80 Chartplotter, Autopilot, Radar, Wind Indicator, and Tridata with a ACR
> > AIS connected to the system and the factory ICOM's VHF antenna. The
> > instrumentation package has been reliable and great until last week when the
> > C80 chart plotter screen started flickering and now it is just showing
> > colored vertical lines across the screen. It is un-useable. So, our
> > questions are:
> >
> > a. Has this happened to anyone else with a 12 year old RayMarine chart
> > plotter? If so, did you repair/replace or upgrade it?
> > b. If you repaired, how did you do that and who did you use? Any
> > recommendations?
> > c. If you replaced it, did anyone buy a used one off of eBay and do a ?plug
> > and play? replacement?
> > d. Would it be possible to upgrade the C80 with a E80 chart plotter or even
> > a working used larger screen E120 chart plotter and still use the rest of
> > the existing RayMarine equipment? We are not sure where to determine
> > compatibility. The RayMarine factory has not been that helpful for the
> > repair of an older unit. It seems like they just want to sell the newer
> > Axiom units.
> > e. If you upgraded with a new unit, what is the consensus, RayMarine or
> > Garmin? If RayMarine, can you still use the existing Autopilot, wind
> > indicator, speed/depth, etc or do these need to be upgraded as well to work
> > with the new integrated chart plotter systems?
> > f. If you selected to upgrade to the Garmin system, how much of the older
> > working RayMarine equipment can still be used? Can the existing cabling for
> > the wind indicator be used with the Garmin wind indicator? Can the
> > RayMarine autopilot interface wit a new Garmin Chartplotter?
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. The cost of upgrading the entire
> > system seems like it might be cost prohibitive compared to replacing the C80
> > with a similar used unit or seeking a repair, but Rob and I are both curious
> > about what other C320 owners have done and sage advice that you may all
> > have.
> >
> > 2. Recently, the Yanmar 3YM30 engine has a delay when the start button is
> > pushed. Rob explains it like "after he turns on the key, he has to press
> > the start button several time before the engine turns over. It is like
> > power is not getting to the starter until several pushes of the start
> > button.? The batteries are fully charged, and the Yanmar engine starting
> > and cockpit instrument panel system seems energized. Has anyone had this
> > happen to them and did they ever find the culprit? Loose wire or
> > connection, corroded or worn out start button, corroded connections, too
> > much voltage drop from a corroded connection from the start switch to the
> > starter solenoid, etc. Again, any troubleshooting advice or similar
> > experiences for Rob would be super appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you all for weighing in n these issues for Rob. Our C320IA owners
> > group is an invaluable resource.
> >
> > Thanks again for you help!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David B. Swanson, P.E., S.E.
> > LEED AP/F. SEI
> > Structural Engineer
> > (425) 508-7971 mobile
> > kswanson123 at comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 11:39:21 -0500
> From: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
> Repair/Replacementand Intermittent Start Button
> Message-ID:
>
> <mailman.52356.1573926916.7166.c320-list-catalina320.com at lists.catalina320.com>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> The big question with the diesel is whether the solenoid clicks when he pushes
> the button. If so, that?s the infamous Yanmar Click.
>
> It?s generally attributable to crappy wiring used by Yanmar on its otherwise
> excellent engines. On many engines, it is untinned with a cheap fuse somewhere
> between the starter and the starter button. I haven?t examined the setup on my
> 320, so I can?t speak to what?s there.
>
> You can Google this and come up with a variety of solutions. I solved it on my
> Bristol 30 by replacing the wiring with high-quality cable and a good fuse
> holder.
>
> If you don?t hear a solenoid click, you have to look elsewhere in the wiring
> system. Bad starter button? Loose connection ? A multimeter and some minor
> detective work will point to where the problem is.
>
> Jack Brennan
> Sionas, 1998 Catalina 320, no. 528
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 16:52:18 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD Repair/Repl
> Message-ID: <1929190809.1129354.1573923138169 at mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> FWIW and forgive I have not read full trail... mine had bad fuse holder that
> was located in engine compartment hanging in mid air behind alternator and
> below floating terminal strip. Hulu 517 1998. Good luck
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:39 AM, Jack Brennan<jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
> wrote: The big question with the diesel is whether the solenoid clicks when
> he pushes the button. If so, that?s the infamous Yanmar Click.
>
> It?s generally attributable to crappy wiring used by Yanmar on its otherwise
> excellent engines. On many engines, it is untinned with a cheap fuse somewhere
> between the starter and the starter button. I haven?t examined the setup on my
> 320, so I can?t speak to what?s there.
>
> You can Google this and come up with a variety of solutions. I solved it on my
> Bristol 30 by replacing the wiring with high-quality cable and a good fuse
> holder.
>
> If you don?t hear a solenoid click, you have to look elsewhere in the wiring
> system. Bad starter button? Loose connection ? A multimeter and some minor
> detective work will point to where the problem is.
>
> Jack Brennan
> Sionas, 1998 Catalina 320, no. 528
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> Dolphin Cruising Club of Tampa Bay
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:27:59 -0500
> From: Dan <danb70341 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Cc: Robert Blix <Mach.80 at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
> Repair/Replacement and Intermittent Start Button
> Message-ID: <7EC69B84-5A26-4ECA-90E3-D485E46B653F at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> I am a returning member and sent dues via pay pal. What is next step to join
> discussions?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 16, 2019, at 2:58 AM, Utility Comcast <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > ?Fellow C320IA Owners,
> >
> > A new C320IA Owner/Friend of mine that recently bought our C320 MK II has a
> > few questions for you all. His name is Robert Blix and he is the proud new
> > owner of S/V Journey, formerly our S/V Emily Ann, a 2007 C320 MK II, No.
> > 1107. that he sails out of Edmonds, Washington. Rob has signed up for the
> > C320IA, but doesn?t quite have email access yet, so I am sending this email
> > on his behalf and forwarding your responses to him. I have been talking up
> > how valuable the C320IA is and the advice and suggestions from our fellow
> > members, so I would like to share with him any experience, advice and/or
> > suggestions you all would have for him with two recent problems that he has
> > encountered.
> >
> > So a couple of questions on Rob?s behalf:
> >
> > 1. His 2007 C320 MKII, No. 1107, has the original RayMarine instruments, the
> > C80 Chartplotter, Autopilot, Radar, Wind Indicator, and Tridata with a ACR
> > AIS connected to the system and the factory ICOM's VHF antenna. The
> > instrumentation package has been reliable and great until last week when the
> > C80 chart plotter screen started flickering and now it is just showing
> > colored vertical lines across the screen. It is un-useable. So, our
> > questions are:
> >
> > a. Has this happened to anyone else with a 12 year old RayMarine chart
> > plotter? If so, did you repair/replace or upgrade it?
> > b. If you repaired, how did you do that and who did you use? Any
> > recommendations?
> > c. If you replaced it, did anyone buy a used one off of eBay and do a ?plug
> > and play? replacement?
> > d. Would it be possible to upgrade the C80 with a E80 chart plotter or even
> > a working used larger screen E120 chart plotter and still use the rest of
> > the existing RayMarine equipment? We are not sure where to determine
> > compatibility. The RayMarine factory has not been that helpful for the
> > repair of an older unit. It seems like they just want to sell the newer
> > Axiom units.
> > e. If you upgraded with a new unit, what is the consensus, RayMarine or
> > Garmin? If RayMarine, can you still use the existing Autopilot, wind
> > indicator, speed/depth, etc or do these need to be upgraded as well to work
> > with the new integrated chart plotter systems?
> > f. If you selected to upgrade to the Garmin system, how much of the older
> > working RayMarine equipment can still be used? Can the existing cabling for
> > the wind indicator be used with the Garmin wind indicator? Can the
> > RayMarine autopilot interface wit a new Garmin Chartplotter?
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. The cost of upgrading the entire
> > system seems like it might be cost prohibitive compared to replacing the C80
> > with a similar used unit or seeking a repair, but Rob and I are both curious
> > about what other C320 owners have done and sage advice that you may all
> > have.
> >
> > 2. Recently, the Yanmar 3YM30 engine has a delay when the start button is
> > pushed. Rob explains it like "after he turns on the key, he has to press
> > the start button several time before the engine turns over. It is like
> > power is not getting to the starter until several pushes of the start
> > button.? The batteries are fully charged, and the Yanmar engine starting
> > and cockpit instrument panel system seems energized. Has anyone had this
> > happen to them and did they ever find the culprit? Loose wire or
> > connection, corroded or worn out start button, corroded connections, too
> > much voltage drop from a corroded connection from the start switch to the
> > starter solenoid, etc. Again, any troubleshooting advice or similar
> > experiences for Rob would be super appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you all for weighing in n these issues for Rob. Our C320IA owners
> > group is an invaluable resource.
> >
> > Thanks again for you help!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David B. Swanson, P.E., S.E.
> > LEED AP/F. SEI
> > Structural Engineer
> > (425) 508-7971 mobile
> > kswanson123 at comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 12:55:10 -0500
> From: Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
> Repair/Replacementand Intermittent Start Button
> Message-ID: <5dd03800.1c69fb81.b59da.48de at mx.google.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Allen,
> Seatalk instruments/senders are compatible with NG via a modestly priced
> Raymarine ITC-5 converter.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Burti
> Commitment #867
> Farmville, NC
>
> From: Allan Field
> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 8:38 AM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Need Advice on RayMarine C80 MFD
> Repair/Replacementand Intermittent Start Button
>
> Hi Dave - When we purchased our C387 3 years ago, we had the same issues
> with the chartplotter that you are describing. The issues were found at
> survey so the PO had them fixed. The unit was sent back to Raymarine,
> repaired, and was returned withing something like 2 weeks. There also is a
> guy in Durango, CO who services Raymarine equipment and has a good
> reputation, based on everything I have heard about him. I even sold him
> some excess parts a few years ago. His name is Dan Gerhardt,
> C250 at mydurango.net. I would recommend that your questions also be directed
> to Dan. As for changing out the Raymarine instruments, I believe that the
> real question is how to interface old SeaTalk instruments with newer NG
> (next generation) instruments. I have seen a lot of stuff out there in the
> past on NG but don't remember the solutions but my aging memory is that
> there are incompatibility issues, meaning everything may need to be changed
> out. Hope this helps...
> Allan S. Field
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 2:58 AM Utility Comcast <kswanson123 at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Fellow C320IA Owners,
> >
> > A new C320IA Owner/Friend of mine that recently bought our C320 MK II has
> > a few questions for you all. His name is Robert Blix and he is the proud
> > new owner of S/V Journey, formerly our S/V Emily Ann, a 2007 C320 MK II,
> > No. 1107. that he sails out of Edmonds, Washington. Rob has signed up for
> > the C320IA, but doesn?t quite have email access yet, so I am sending this
> > email on his behalf and forwarding your responses to him. I have been
> > talking up how valuable the C320IA is and the advice and suggestions from
> > our fellow members, so I would like to share with him any experience,
> > advice and/or suggestions you all would have for him with two recent
> > problems that he has encountered.
> >
> > So a couple of questions on Rob?s behalf:
> >
> > 1. His 2007 C320 MKII, No. 1107, has the original RayMarine instruments,
> > the C80 Chartplotter, Autopilot, Radar, Wind Indicator, and Tridata with a
> > ACR AIS connected to the system and the factory ICOM's VHF antenna. The
> > instrumentation package has been reliable and great until last week when
> > the C80 chart plotter screen started flickering and now it is just showing
> > colored vertical lines across the screen. It is un-useable. So, our
> > questions are:
> >
> > a. Has this happened to anyone else with a 12 year old RayMarine chart
> > plotter? If so, did you repair/replace or upgrade it?
> > b. If you repaired, how did you do that and who did you use? Any
> > recommendations?
> > c. If you replaced it, did anyone buy a used one off of eBay and do a
> > ?plug and play? replacement?
> > d. Would it be possible to upgrade the C80 with a E80 chart plotter or
> > even a working used larger screen E120 chart plotter and still use the rest
> > of the existing RayMarine equipment? We are not sure where to determine
> > compatibility. The RayMarine factory has not been that helpful for the
> > repair of an older unit. It seems like they just want to sell the newer
> > Axiom units.
> > e. If you upgraded with a new unit, what is the consensus, RayMarine or
> > Garmin? If RayMarine, can you still use the existing Autopilot, wind
> > indicator, speed/depth, etc or do these need to be upgraded as well to work
> > with the new integrated chart plotter systems?
> > f. If you selected to upgrade to the Garmin system, how much of the older
> > working RayMarine equipment can still be used? Can the existing cabling
> > for the wind indicator be used with the Garmin wind indicator? Can the
> > RayMarine autopilot interface wit a new Garmin Chartplotter?
> >
> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated. The cost of upgrading the entire
> > system seems like it might be cost prohibitive compared to replacing the
> > C80 with a similar used unit or seeking a repair, but Rob and I are both
> > curious about what other C320 owners have done and sage advice that you may
> > all have.
> >
> > 2. Recently, the Yanmar 3YM30 engine has a delay when the start button is
> > pushed. Rob explains it like "after he turns on the key, he has to press
> > the start button several time before the engine turns over. It is like
> > power is not getting to the starter until several pushes of the start
> > button.? The batteries are fully charged, and the Yanmar engine starting
> > and cockpit instrument panel system seems energized. Has anyone had this
> > happen to them and did they ever find the culprit? Loose wire or
> > connection, corroded or worn out start button, corroded connections, too
> > much voltage drop from a corroded connection from the start switch to the
> > starter solenoid, etc. Again, any troubleshooting advice or similar
> > experiences for Rob would be super appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you all for weighing in n these issues for Rob. Our C320IA owners
> > group is an invaluable resource.
> >
> > Thanks again for you help!
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > David B. Swanson, P.E., S.E.
> > LEED AP/F. SEI
> > Structural Engineer
> > (425) 508-7971 mobile
> > kswanson123 at comcast.net
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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