[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 3800, Issue 2

Jeff Smith jeffreyssmith at live.com
Mon Aug 17 05:15:32 PDT 2020


Sara,

I have been happy with my Promariner ProNautic 1230P. The one thing I will say is my Newmar charger was located in the port aft locker on the wall that also serves as the back wall of the galley. Because of the different mounting configuration pattern, I ended up reusing two mounting holes and I had to drill two new holes. The other issue I had is that the 1230P would not accept the larger wire diameter (maybe 6 or 8 AWG, I can't remember now) that feeds the batteries. So, I had to bridge from the larger wires to an AWG (either 12 or 14) that would attach to the charger. It was suggested on this site to use a terminal block that is covered that steps from the one size wire to the other.

From one who is still working to another, I hope this helps.

Jeff

'94, #121

On 8/16/20, 5:54 PM, "C320-list on behalf of SARA SCHROEDER" <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com on behalf of saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:

    Thanks everyone for your comments about batteries, starting batteries, and solar panels.  It was very informative and I made a spreadsheet to look for consistencies.  As suspected there aren't any!
    
    When the initial problem occurred I had tested the batteries with a hydrometer.  Because I had just returned from a long weekend they were not fully charged and the readings looked consistent.  I just retested them with the hydrometer again after several days of being at the dock. The problem is the batteries.  Every cell but one is only at 12.75 and the final cell is at 12.15.  Am going to call Dyno Batteries and see if they can put them on their charger and bring them back up (they are 5 years old).  If not, I'm investing in new batteries.  Additionally, a few buddies of mine think the Newmar Three Stage Smart Charger the PO put on is a piece of crap.  I looked at when the PO purchased it and realize it's 16 years old. It's possible the charger is not doing it's job.  
    
    Since I'm still working (unlike the rest of you!) and live in the Pacific NW I haven't been taking long trips. It's super easy to just sail on Puget Sound and do overnights here and there.  Now that I'm pushing to do more long trips I'm spending more time figuring out my energy consumption.  
    
    New question is.....any thoughts on a good battery charger/inverter?  Magnum has been suggested.
    
    Hope all you guys figured out your pleated shade issues!!  
    Sara Schroeder
    Wandering Star
    2000/#707
    Seattle 
    
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    > Today's Topics:
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    >    1. Re: Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (John morrison)
    >    2. Re: Fuel hose feed to injectors (Dennis Cookson)
    >    3. Re: Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (Allan Field)
    >    4. Re: Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (Chris White)
    >    5. Re: Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (Michael Ferguson)
    >    6. Re: Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (Guy Smith)
    >    7.  Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (nibj)
    >    8. Re: Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (Irving Grunes)
    >    9. Re: Starter Battery and Echo Charger (Danny Jensen)
    >   10. Re: Starter Battery and Echo Charger (Danny Jensen)
    >   11. Re: Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (Scott Westwood)
    >   12. Re: Starter Battery and Echo Charger (Joe Luciano)
    >   13. Re: Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out (Doug Treff)
    > 
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    > Message: 1
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:27:01 -0400
    > From: John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
    > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID: <6F51CDBC-AE31-4525-9129-F727D81C0ADD at sympatico.ca>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
    > 
    > I have been looking as well. The round velcro hooks are pooched on our boat. I?ve tried to get replacements but all I?ve found are one avail in the UK, need to buy something like 100 for many pounds. I?ve glued on new velcro hooks and this works OK, the velcro loops appear to have weathered Father Time!!
    > JohnM
    > 1999#574
    > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com> wrote:
    > > 
    > > Looking for a solution to the worn out Velcro fasters on our pleated window blinds. It seams a waste as well as expensive to replace the blinds that are fine except for the Velcro.
    > > Thanks,Bruce HunterNauti Time #720
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 2
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:45:58 +0100
    > From: Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net>
    > To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel hose feed to injectors
    > Message-ID: <44F68FDD-8AC3-4350-957C-5F4249ADCD78 at cooksons.net>
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    > 
    > Thanks, Jack, that?s good to know.
    > 
    > Regards,
    > Dennis Cookson
    > #577
    > 
    > > On 12 Aug 2020, at 13:15, Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net> wrote:
    > > 
    > > Dennis:
    > > 
    > > I checked on my engine. I too have a hose in that spot. Mine is a 1998 Yanmar 3gm30. It leads from the secondary filter to what appears to be injectors, although I haven?t dug into the manual to confirm that. With the paint on it, you can be sure it?s original.
    > > 
    > > I would take the hose into any shop that sells fuel lines. It looks to be standard. I also wouldn?t worry too much about the hose. They?re pretty tough, and it doesn?t take a huge amount of effort to remove one, in my experience. (I just replaced my fuel lines from the tank to the fuel pump.)
    > > 
    > > Jack Brennan
    > > Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
    > > Tierra Verde, Fl.
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
    > > 
    > > From: Dennis Cookson
    > > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 3:48 AM
    > > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
    > > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Fuel hose feed to injectors
    > > 
    > > Thanks Tim, that?s interesting. I don?t want to pull the old hose off until I?m sure I have a new one ready to fit, as I expect it will crack and be unusable.  No other advice on this one as yet!
    > > 
    > > Regards,
    > > Dennis Cookson
    > > #577
    > > 
    > >> On 11 Aug 2020, at 19:23, Timothy Woods <woodstimothya at gmail.com> wrote:
    > >> 
    > >> Sorry if I'm late, been out sailing.
    > >> 
    > >> That's the first time I've seen a hose there. Mine is metal pipe.
    > >> 
    > >> Tim #375
    > >> 
    > >> On Sat, Aug 8, 2020, 10:00 AM Dennis Cookson <dennis at cooksons.net> wrote:
    > >> 
    > >>> I need to replace some of the rubber fuel hoses on our Yanmar 3GM30F which
    > >>> are showing signs of wear and are likely original.  One of these is the
    > >>> line from the secondary filter to the injectors. This hose, seen in this
    > >>> photo <
    > >>> https://c320.org/mediagallery/media.php?f=0&sort=0&s=2020080813461490>
    > >>> has quite a narrow diameter but the new hose I?ve bought is much fatter due
    > >>> to better reinforcement, with an approx 17mm diameter. It looks like the
    > >>> replacement would foul on the injector fixings. I?m wondering if anyone
    > >>> here happens to know the max. diameter I could fit.
    > >>> 
    > >>> My understanding is that the hose inside diameter needs to be 5/16? or 8mm.
    > >>> 
    > >>> Dennis Cookson
    > >>> #577.  1999
    > >>> 
    > >>> 
    > >>> 
    > > 
    > > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
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    > 
    > Message: 3
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 10:24:40 -0400
    > From: Allan Field <allanfield47 at gmail.com>
    > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID:
    > 	<CA+tGYSZLTC72Y6PFfqfnCcc33_ZR-fqs8aST22SQexy+oAE7nw at mail.gmail.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
    > 
    > Bruce and John - I sent you pictures of how I resolved the velcro problem.
    > 
    > Allan S. Field
    > Sewa Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808)
    > Columbia, MD
    > 
    > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:27 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
    > wrote:
    > 
    > > I have been looking as well. The round velcro hooks are pooched on our
    > > boat. I?ve tried to get replacements but all I?ve found are one avail in
    > > the UK, need to buy something like 100 for many pounds. I?ve glued on new
    > > velcro hooks and this works OK, the velcro loops appear to have weathered
    > > Father Time!!
    > > JohnM
    > > 1999#574
    > > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>
    > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Looking for a solution to the worn out Velcro fasters on our pleated
    > > window blinds. It seams a waste as well as expensive to replace the blinds
    > > that are fine except for the Velcro.
    > > > Thanks,Bruce HunterNauti Time #720
    > >
    > >
    > 
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 4
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:55:28 +0000 (UTC)
    > From: Chris White <chriswhite252000 at yahoo.co.uk>
    > To: "c320-list at catalina320.com" <c320-list at catalina320.com>,
    > 	"C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID: <1717763409.654360.1597244128803 at mail.yahoo.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    > 
    >  To freshen the Velco discs, which get dirty and stained over time, take them all off and put in a container with a high concentration of bleach.Leave for some time then rinse.?They come up like new.
    > Chris WhiteDandy C320 #449UK
    >     On Wednesday, 12 August 2020, 15:51:37 BST, Allan Field <allanfield47 at gmail.com> wrote:  
    >  
    >  Bruce and John - I sent you pictures of how I resolved the velcro problem.
    > 
    > Allan S. Field
    > Sewa Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808)
    > Columbia, MD
    > 
    > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:27 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
    > wrote:
    > 
    > > I have been looking as well. The round velcro hooks are pooched on our
    > > boat. I?ve tried to get replacements but all I?ve found are one avail in
    > > the UK, need to buy something like 100 for many pounds. I?ve glued on new
    > > velcro hooks and this works OK, the velcro loops appear to have weathered
    > > Father Time!!
    > > JohnM
    > > 1999#574
    > > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>
    > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Looking for a solution to the worn out Velcro fasters on our pleated
    > > window blinds. It seams a waste as well as expensive to replace the blinds
    > > that are fine except for the Velcro.
    > > > Thanks,Bruce HunterNauti Time #720
    > >
    > >  
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 5
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:30:06 +0000 (UTC)
    > From: Michael Ferguson <coralman at bellsouth.net>
    > To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID: <2119544439.734898.1597246206137 at mail.yahoo.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    > 
    > 
    > Allen if you would please share that info with me also on the curtain fix. Thanks Michael
    > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android 
    >  
    >   On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Allan Field<allanfield47 at gmail.com> wrote:   Bruce and John - I sent you pictures of how I resolved the velcro problem.
    > 
    > Allan S. Field
    > Sewa Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808)
    > Columbia, MD
    > 
    > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:27 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
    > wrote:
    > 
    > > I have been looking as well. The round velcro hooks are pooched on our
    > > boat. I?ve tried to get replacements but all I?ve found are one avail in
    > > the UK, need to buy something like 100 for many pounds. I?ve glued on new
    > > velcro hooks and this works OK, the velcro loops appear to have weathered
    > > Father Time!!
    > > JohnM
    > > 1999#574
    > > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>
    > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Looking for a solution to the worn out Velcro fasters on our pleated
    > > window blinds. It seams a waste as well as expensive to replace the blinds
    > > that are fine except for the Velcro.
    > > > Thanks,Bruce HunterNauti Time #720
    > >
    > >  
    > 
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 6
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 15:31:41 +0000 (UTC)
    > From: Guy Smith <smitski2001 at yahoo.com>
    > To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <c320-list at catalina320.com>,
    > 	"C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID: <1513280916.914365.1597246301196 at mail.yahoo.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    > 
    >  And also with me.... If this email makes it to the list... :(
    > Regards,~g
    >     On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 11:30:16 AM EDT, Michael Ferguson <coralman at bellsouth.net> wrote:  
    >  
    >  
    > Allen if you would please share that info with me also on the curtain fix. Thanks Michael
    > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android 
    >  
    > ? On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Allan Field<allanfield47 at gmail.com> wrote:? Bruce and John - I sent you pictures of how I resolved the velcro problem.
    > 
    > Allan S. Field
    > Sewa Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808)
    > Columbia, MD
    > 
    > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:27 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
    > wrote:
    > 
    > > I have been looking as well. The round velcro hooks are pooched on our
    > > boat. I?ve tried to get replacements but all I?ve found are one avail in
    > > the UK, need to buy something like 100 for many pounds. I?ve glued on new
    > > velcro hooks and this works OK, the velcro loops appear to have weathered
    > > Father Time!!
    > > JohnM
    > > 1999#574
    > > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>
    > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Looking for a solution to the worn out Velcro fasters on our pleated
    > > window blinds. It seams a waste as well as expensive to replace the blinds
    > > that are fine except for the Velcro.
    > > > Thanks,Bruce HunterNauti Time #720
    > >
    > >?   
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 7
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 11:54:42 -0400
    > From: nibj <nibj at mac.com>
    > To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
    > Subject: [C320-list]  Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID: <A6054DFE-EC57-480D-9686-E0BA56D9826F at mac.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
    > 
    > We had on problem on one blind in particular.  It would not stay up.  My spouse unpicked the sewing around the old velcro on the blind and sewed new velcro in place.  So far it has worked well.  
    > 
    > On a related note, one of our blinds (in the head) pulls the Velcro off the cabin wall and hangs untidily.  Has anyone a fix for that?
    > 
    > 
    > Peter
    > Tangled #226 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
    > 
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    > 
    > Message: 8
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 12:13:30 -0400
    > From: Irving Grunes <igrunes at gmail.com>
    > To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID:
    > 	<CAE+H+CJb6iX3FZv_=uri2wdpO5WE+dSWnfSq2CN-2P6vByizwg at mail.gmail.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
    > 
    > check ebay for velcro dots
    > formerly #851
    > 
    > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 11:54 AM nibj <nibj at mac.com> wrote:
    > 
    > > We had on problem on one blind in particular.  It would not stay up.  My
    > > spouse unpicked the sewing around the old velcro on the blind and sewed new
    > > velcro in place.  So far it has worked well.
    > >
    > > On a related note, one of our blinds (in the head) pulls the Velcro off
    > > the cabin wall and hangs untidily.  Has anyone a fix for that?
    > >
    > >
    > > Peter
    > > Tangled #226
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > 
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 9
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:20:50 -0700
    > From: Danny Jensen <danny at jensenshouse.com>
    > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Starter Battery and Echo Charger
    > Message-ID: <85BFB53E-E011-40E4-8CB5-AEA565D94173 at jensenshouse.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
    > 
    > 
    > Here is my videos on my solar. You may be able to connect to your shore charger output wires it you don?t use solar and shore charger at the same time. 200w runs the refer on most days with almost no engine charging. https://youtu.be/FJBYstYlIBI
    > 
    > Sent from my iPhone
    > 
    > > On Aug 11, 2020, at 9:08 PM, Sara Skinner Schroeder <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
    > > 
    > > ?My 2000 C20 has two 4D deep cycle batteries.  I figure I have about 190amp hr capacity for each which if they are not discharged more than 50% I have about 80amp hrs each.  She has never had a starter battery. After a weekend rafting with friends I did some analysis on my battery usage. It goes without saying that the refrigeration was the biggest draw.  I got nervous that the batteries would not have enough CCA to start the engine so I turned off the refer the night before heading home.  I did charge the batteries for a few hours on day 2 but was still not comfortable with how fast the batteries were being depleted.  I have a few, somewhat unrelated questions, as I figure out what?s going to be added to the boat next.
    > > 1.  What kind and size of starter battery do you recommend. Where did you put it?
    > > 2.  What kind of echo charger do you recommend.
    > > 3.  My 20 yr old Adler Barber refrigerator compressor is drawing 5.5amps at a setting of 4-5.  Does that seem reasonable?  I?m wondering if the compressor is starting to fail.  It works great and I always have ice but I have no idea how long they usually last.
    > > 4.  I?m also thinking of getting a solar panel I can throw on the deck to help with battery charging at anchor.  Does anyone do this?
    > > 
    > > This stuff is still smoke-and-mirrors to me so I appreciate the input.  Finally, my last post was about the installation of my Raymarine autopilot. Thanks to Jack Brennan?s advice and instructions it?s up and running!  I even replaced the steering cable while I had it all torn apart.  Whew!!!  
    > > Sara 
    > > Wandering Star 
    > > 2000/#707
    > > 
    > > Sent from my iPad
    > 
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 10
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 09:30:53 -0700
    > From: Danny Jensen <danny at jensenshouse.com>
    > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Starter Battery and Echo Charger
    > Message-ID: <1D65A700-7DD6-4FEB-B24A-8855F93B8F04 at jensenshouse.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8
    > 
    > I meant to send you this shorter video in my previous post. Here is my test setup of basic solar. https://youtu.be/1It6JXgNAxg
    > 
    > Sent from my iPhone
    > 
    > > On Aug 11, 2020, at 9:08 PM, Sara Skinner Schroeder <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
    > > 
    > > ?My 2000 C20 has two 4D deep cycle batteries.  I figure I have about 190amp hr capacity for each which if they are not discharged more than 50% I have about 80amp hrs each.  She has never had a starter battery. After a weekend rafting with friends I did some analysis on my battery usage. It goes without saying that the refrigeration was the biggest draw.  I got nervous that the batteries would not have enough CCA to start the engine so I turned off the refer the night before heading home.  I did charge the batteries for a few hours on day 2 but was still not comfortable with how fast the batteries were being depleted.  I have a few, somewhat unrelated questions, as I figure out what?s going to be added to the boat next.
    > > 1.  What kind and size of starter battery do you recommend. Where did you put it?
    > > 2.  What kind of echo charger do you recommend.
    > > 3.  My 20 yr old Adler Barber refrigerator compressor is drawing 5.5amps at a setting of 4-5.  Does that seem reasonable?  I?m wondering if the compressor is starting to fail.  It works great and I always have ice but I have no idea how long they usually last.
    > > 4.  I?m also thinking of getting a solar panel I can throw on the deck to help with battery charging at anchor.  Does anyone do this?
    > > 
    > > This stuff is still smoke-and-mirrors to me so I appreciate the input.  Finally, my last post was about the installation of my Raymarine autopilot. Thanks to Jack Brennan?s advice and instructions it?s up and running!  I even replaced the steering cable while I had it all torn apart.  Whew!!!  
    > > Sara 
    > > Wandering Star 
    > > 2000/#707
    > > 
    > > Sent from my iPad
    > 
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 11
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:31:31 +0000 (UTC)
    > From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
    > To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID: <1618087755.978475.1597253491918 at mail.yahoo.com>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
    > 
    > Allan,? I am also interested in what you did.
    > 
    > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android 
    >  
    >   On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Allan Field<allanfield47 at gmail.com> wrote:   Bruce and John - I sent you pictures of how I resolved the velcro problem.
    > 
    > Allan S. Field
    > Sewa Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808)
    > Columbia, MD
    > 
    > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:27 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
    > wrote:
    > 
    > > I have been looking as well. The round velcro hooks are pooched on our
    > > boat. I?ve tried to get replacements but all I?ve found are one avail in
    > > the UK, need to buy something like 100 for many pounds. I?ve glued on new
    > > velcro hooks and this works OK, the velcro loops appear to have weathered
    > > Father Time!!
    > > JohnM
    > > 1999#574
    > > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>
    > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Looking for a solution to the worn out Velcro fasters on our pleated
    > > window blinds. It seams a waste as well as expensive to replace the blinds
    > > that are fine except for the Velcro.
    > > > Thanks,Bruce HunterNauti Time #720
    > >
    > >  
    > 
    > 
    > ------------------------------
    > 
    > Message: 12
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 11:03:50 -0700
    > From: Joe Luciano <jnluciano at comcast.net>
    > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Starter Battery and Echo Charger
    > Message-ID: <07E82C92-A343-4848-838B-ECAC71020152 at comcast.net>
    > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
    > 
    > Hi Sara,
    > 
    > Lots of good ideas shared in the previous posts.  A couple of thoughts from a fellow sailor in the Pacific Northwest.  Just need to recognize that the sun power in our area is nothing like that of someone who lives in Florida, for instance.  While you can get some power on cloudy days, no where near what you get on sunny days.  Just something to take into consideration in our area.  
    > 
    > One thing that I have done to my boat is install a Balmar high output alternator with 3 stage voltage regulation.  I find this to be one of the best moves I?ve made to keep batteries charged.  Without this, the standard engine set up is an automotive style alternator that won?t fully charge deep cycle batteries very well with intermittent engine use.  While island hopping in the San Juan?s I sail as often as I can, but I also recognize that there are times I have to motor and I want to take advantage of those times to charge my batteries.  At about an hour of motoring, I can restore batteries to 90% typically.  This allows me to spend 2-3 days at anchor easily without need for the sun to be out for charging batteries via solar.
    > 
    > In terms of the battery banks, I combined my two 4D banks and put them on the battery 2 terminal.  This gives me a usable 200 Amp hours of house bank.  I then installed a separate automotive type battery on bank #1 that is dedicated to engine starting only.  Typically, I don?t have to use this battery, but it?s peace of mind for always being able to start the engine.  The starting battery on my boat fits in the same area as the two 4D batteries under the starboard setee.  The automotive battery fits just forward of the other two in a dedicated battery box.  The other thing I installed was a Link battery monitor for the house bank that tells me my amp hour usage and current draw at any time.  With this instrument, there is basically no excuse for not knowing your battery state of charge.
    > 
    > Anyway, these are the relatively simple things that work for me in our part of the world.  They?ve been reliable for me for over 15 years.  I have contemplated adding solar, but adding panels and wiring that I?ve considered is somewhat messy and I?ve not felt a need to really go that route given my cruising style.
    > 
    > Joe Luciano
    > Second Wind
    > #1024
    > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:30 AM, Danny Jensen <danny at jensenshouse.com> wrote:
    > > 
    > > I meant to send you this shorter video in my previous post. Here is my test setup of basic solar. https://youtu.be/1It6JXgNAxg
    > > 
    > > Sent from my iPhone
    > > 
    > >> On Aug 11, 2020, at 9:08 PM, Sara Skinner Schroeder <saras951 at comcast.net> wrote:
    > >> 
    > >> ?My 2000 C20 has two 4D deep cycle batteries.  I figure I have about 190amp hr capacity for each which if they are not discharged more than 50% I have about 80amp hrs each.  She has never had a starter battery. After a weekend rafting with friends I did some analysis on my battery usage. It goes without saying that the refrigeration was the biggest draw.  I got nervous that the batteries would not have enough CCA to start the engine so I turned off the refer the night before heading home.  I did charge the batteries for a few hours on day 2 but was still not comfortable with how fast the batteries were being depleted.  I have a few, somewhat unrelated questions, as I figure out what?s going to be added to the boat next.
    > >> 1.  What kind and size of starter battery do you recommend. Where did you put it?
    > >> 2.  What kind of echo charger do you recommend.
    > >> 3.  My 20 yr old Adler Barber refrigerator compressor is drawing 5.5amps at a setting of 4-5.  Does that seem reasonable?  I?m wondering if the compressor is starting to fail.  It works great and I always have ice but I have no idea how long they usually last.
    > >> 4.  I?m also thinking of getting a solar panel I can throw on the deck to help with battery charging at anchor.  Does anyone do this?
    > >> 
    > >> This stuff is still smoke-and-mirrors to me so I appreciate the input.  Finally, my last post was about the installation of my Raymarine autopilot. Thanks to Jack Brennan?s advice and instructions it?s up and running!  I even replaced the steering cable while I had it all torn apart.  Whew!!!  
    > >> Sara 
    > >> Wandering Star 
    > >> 2000/#707
    > >> 
    > >> Sent from my iPad
    > 
    > 
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    > Message: 13
    > Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:08:54 -0400
    > From: "Doug Treff" <doug at treff.us>
    > To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
    > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Pleated Shades Velcro Worn Out
    > Message-ID: <6b9ee907-86d2-41c3-906e-49735f04126e at www.fastmail.com>
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    > 
    > Clearly there are a lot of us who have the same issue. Add me to the list. 
    > 
    > Maybe post pictures in the photo area or something?
    > 
    > --
    > Doug Treff
    > doug at treff.us
    > 
    > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020, at 1:31 PM, Scott Westwood wrote:
    > > Allan,? I am also interested in what you did.
    > > 
    > > Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android 
    > >  
    > >   On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 10:51 AM, Allan Field<allanfield47 at gmail.com> 
    > > wrote:   Bruce and John - I sent you pictures of how I resolved the 
    > > velcro problem.
    > > 
    > > Allan S. Field
    > > Sewa Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808)
    > > Columbia, MD
    > > 
    > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:27 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
    > > wrote:
    > > 
    > > > I have been looking as well. The round velcro hooks are pooched on our
    > > > boat. I?ve tried to get replacements but all I?ve found are one avail in
    > > > the UK, need to buy something like 100 for many pounds. I?ve glued on new
    > > > velcro hooks and this works OK, the velcro loops appear to have weathered
    > > > Father Time!!
    > > > JohnM
    > > > 1999#574
    > > > > On Aug 12, 2020, at 9:04 AM, Bruce Hunter <swampcreek42 at yahoo.com>
    > > > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > > Looking for a solution to the worn out Velcro fasters on our pleated
    > > > window blinds. It seams a waste as well as expensive to replace the blinds
    > > > that are fine except for the Velcro.
    > > > > Thanks,Bruce HunterNauti Time #720
    > > >
    > > >  
    > >
    > 
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