[C320-list] Someone replaced my line?

[Graeme Clark]

Point taken
I think I’ve expressed my view badly. What I’m really trying to get across is that in these circumstances I wouldn’t expect to have to DO anything. The onus is very much upon the rigger to approach me and explain what went wrong and ask whether we can reach a fair compromise etc
I would then be only too willing
But I would be very displeased to just be given a bill and expected to pay!
Graeme


Sent from my phone. Excuse typos! 

> On 30 Oct 2020, at 17:05, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Graeme,
> I'm taking your discussion in the proper spirit, please take my response
> the same.
> 
> First, I didn't suggest paying the "full Price", I said "cost", meaning the
> rigger's cost. Second, if I had replaced my lines only a year ago, I'm
> pretty sure that the rigger would have noticed, double checked the order
> and not have made the mistake...Lastly, I agree that circumstances do have
> to be weighed. For instance, if my lines were in good shape and they
> replaced them with something of a significantly lesser quality, I would
> expect the rigger to fix the problem created. On the other hand, if the
> rigger put up Dyneema and graciously accepted just her cost of the line,
> I'm pretty sure I would be way ahead and could also be 'gracious' in
> accepting an apology..lol
> 
> Fair Winds,
> Chris Burti
> Commitment #867
> Farmville, NC
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 11:04 AM Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Really Chris? Suppose you’d replaced all your lines just  a year ago,
>> you'd be happy to give them the full cost of the new line?
>> Or they have put in expensive dyneema whereas you would chosse something
>> more economical?
>> 
>> It has to be pro-rata surely? I’d pay for the wear and tear on my old
>> line. The “use” that I have had from it, effectively.
>> 
>> If someone replaced all four tires on your car and did so with $250 tires
>> rather than the $150 tire you normally have and you had just put 4 new
>> tires on six months ago, would you still do that?
>> 
>> I’m not ‘having a go at you’, I’m just pointing out that it really does
>> depend upon the circumstances
>> 
>> Graeme
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 30 Oct 2020, at 14:44, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would offer to reimburse them their cost on the line. While I wouldn't
>>> want to profit from their error, neither should they.
>>> 
>>> Fair Winds,
>>> Chris Burti
>>> Commitment #867
>>> Farmville, NC
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> To my mind the answer is simple: they must either leave it as it is  (no
>>>> charge) or return your boat to the state it was in before the error was
>>>> made.(no charge)
>>>> 
>>>> It is they decide to leave it as it is (which they probably will as old
>>>> line is unlikely to be stored anywhere) then it is entirely up to you to
>>>> offer, if you feel so inclined, a contribution towards the fact that you
>>>> are better off.
>>>> 
>>>> This depends in turn on how old your old lines were, how soon you would
>>>> have replaced them and what you'd have spent on new ones. Also whether
>> you
>>>> would have done the replacement yourself or paid a rigger to do it for
>> you.
>>>> 
>>>> If it was me, I'd say “I do my own rigging replacement so I am not
>>>> contributing towards any labor charges; My halyards cost $100 and I
>> replace
>>>> them every 5 years. This one was two years old so I’ll give you 2/5 x
>> $100
>>>> = $40”. Adapt using your own figures.
>>>> 
>>>> But even if they have put dyneema line in you should work on basis of
>> what
>>>> you would have spent, and how often you would replace them. No way
>> should
>>>> you be paying for their mistake.
>>>> 
>>>> If you don't want to, that is. If you are feeling generous that is a
>>>> different matter!
>>>> 
>>>> Graeme
>>>> #366, 1996
>>>> 
>>>>> On 30 Oct 2020, at 13:34, danb70341 at gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got to my boat and found the boom vang,traveler,2 halyards replaced
>>>> with new line. The old line disposed of. I think someone got the wrong
>> boat
>>>> since I never contracted for the job. I am waiting for a call when the
>>>> error is found out. I do have some of my own new line other than
>> halyards
>>>> which I can give to installer who made error. Not sure how handle and
>>>> willing to pay some but not all since not wanted. Any thoughts on how
>>>> handle?
>>>>> Dan Bochniak
>>>>> #250
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>