[C320-list] Someone replaced my line?

[Chris Burti]

With that restatement...we are in complete agreement!

Fair Winds,
Chris Burti
Commitment #867
Farmville, NC


On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 1:55 PM Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:

> Point taken
> I think I’ve expressed my view badly. What I’m really trying to get across
> is that in these circumstances I wouldn’t expect to have to DO anything.
> The onus is very much upon the rigger to approach me and explain what went
> wrong and ask whether we can reach a fair compromise etc
> I would then be only too willing
> But I would be very displeased to just be given a bill and expected to pay!
> Graeme
>
>
> Sent from my phone. Excuse typos!
>
> > On 30 Oct 2020, at 17:05, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Graeme,
> > I'm taking your discussion in the proper spirit, please take my response
> > the same.
> >
> > First, I didn't suggest paying the "full Price", I said "cost", meaning
> the
> > rigger's cost. Second, if I had replaced my lines only a year ago, I'm
> > pretty sure that the rigger would have noticed, double checked the order
> > and not have made the mistake...Lastly, I agree that circumstances do
> have
> > to be weighed. For instance, if my lines were in good shape and they
> > replaced them with something of a significantly lesser quality, I would
> > expect the rigger to fix the problem created. On the other hand, if the
> > rigger put up Dyneema and graciously accepted just her cost of the line,
> > I'm pretty sure I would be way ahead and could also be 'gracious' in
> > accepting an apology..lol
> >
> > Fair Winds,
> > Chris Burti
> > Commitment #867
> > Farmville, NC
> >
> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 11:04 AM Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Really Chris? Suppose you’d replaced all your lines just  a year ago,
> >> you'd be happy to give them the full cost of the new line?
> >> Or they have put in expensive dyneema whereas you would chosse something
> >> more economical?
> >>
> >> It has to be pro-rata surely? I’d pay for the wear and tear on my old
> >> line. The “use” that I have had from it, effectively.
> >>
> >> If someone replaced all four tires on your car and did so with $250
> tires
> >> rather than the $150 tire you normally have and you had just put 4 new
> >> tires on six months ago, would you still do that?
> >>
> >> I’m not ‘having a go at you’, I’m just pointing out that it really does
> >> depend upon the circumstances
> >>
> >> Graeme
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On 30 Oct 2020, at 14:44, Chris Burti <clburti at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I would offer to reimburse them their cost on the line. While I
> wouldn't
> >>> want to profit from their error, neither should they.
> >>>
> >>> Fair Winds,
> >>> Chris Burti
> >>> Commitment #867
> >>> Farmville, NC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:00 AM Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> To my mind the answer is simple: they must either leave it as it is
> (no
> >>>> charge) or return your boat to the state it was in before the error
> was
> >>>> made.(no charge)
> >>>>
> >>>> It is they decide to leave it as it is (which they probably will as
> old
> >>>> line is unlikely to be stored anywhere) then it is entirely up to you
> to
> >>>> offer, if you feel so inclined, a contribution towards the fact that
> you
> >>>> are better off.
> >>>>
> >>>> This depends in turn on how old your old lines were, how soon you
> would
> >>>> have replaced them and what you'd have spent on new ones. Also whether
> >> you
> >>>> would have done the replacement yourself or paid a rigger to do it for
> >> you.
> >>>>
> >>>> If it was me, I'd say “I do my own rigging replacement so I am not
> >>>> contributing towards any labor charges; My halyards cost $100 and I
> >> replace
> >>>> them every 5 years. This one was two years old so I’ll give you 2/5 x
> >> $100
> >>>> = $40”. Adapt using your own figures.
> >>>>
> >>>> But even if they have put dyneema line in you should work on basis of
> >> what
> >>>> you would have spent, and how often you would replace them. No way
> >> should
> >>>> you be paying for their mistake.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you don't want to, that is. If you are feeling generous that is a
> >>>> different matter!
> >>>>
> >>>> Graeme
> >>>> #366, 1996
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 30 Oct 2020, at 13:34, danb70341 at gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I got to my boat and found the boom vang,traveler,2 halyards replaced
> >>>> with new line. The old line disposed of. I think someone got the wrong
> >> boat
> >>>> since I never contracted for the job. I am waiting for a call when the
> >>>> error is found out. I do have some of my own new line other than
> >> halyards
> >>>> which I can give to installer who made error. Not sure how handle and
> >>>> willing to pay some but not all since not wanted. Any thoughts on how
> >>>> handle?
> >>>>> Dan Bochniak
> >>>>> #250
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
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