[C320-list] Refrigerator replacement

[Sara Schroeder Skinner]

I had moisture in that exact same spot in the aft cabin. I removed the veneer strip to discover that there’s a little cavity in there. That cavity collects moisture.  I took some silver bubble wrap from Home Depot and put pieces in the cavity to take up the space. I put the veneer back on and I no longer have moisture in that little corner. That being said I also run a fan in the aft cabin when I’m not there to keep the air circulating.
Sara 
Wandering Star
#707/2000

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>   1. Re: Holding tank monitor sensor (Christian)
>   2. Re: Holding tank monitor sensor (RONALD HODEL)
>   3. Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268 (Cliff Lee)
>   4. Re: Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268 (Jack Brennan)
>   5. Re: Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268 (Graeme Clark)
>   6. Re: Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268 (John morrison)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 17:05:45 -0600
> From: Christian <ccaper at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding tank monitor sensor
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> Has anyone had experience with Gobius Systems for tank monitoring?  They
> use one sensor, that performs some sort of vibration calculations for
> level, work with any fluid, any container material (though maximum
> thickness for different materials), and even have a NMEA2000 converter.
> The Gobius Pro system has bluetooth built into each sensor, with an app for
> android or iOs.  Only need power supplied to the sensor, no other wires.
> https://www.gobius.se/en/produkt-kategori/gobius-pro-en/
> 
> Christian Caperton
> 1994 C320 #138 "Canuck" Monroe Harbor, Chicago, IL
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 15:18:37 -0800
> From: RONALD HODEL <ronandgail2 at me.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Holding tank monitor sensor
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> I installed a Dometic system that incorporates 3 floats in the holding tank. The floats are installed in such a way that I can take the floats out for cleaning. I was advised to use this system by other much more knowledgeable people and even though I thought that the floats would constantly foul, they don?t. I do have a fresh water electric head and I do keep my tank pumped out but on the other hand, we never did any maintenance on it for the year we were off cruising and never had a problem. I calibrated the floats in such a way that I know how much waste we have in the tank. That?s my 2 cents and I?m happy with it
> 
> Ron Hodel
> #1070 Lokomaikai 
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>> On Jan 17, 2021, at 3:06 PM, Christian <ccaper at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?Has anyone had experience with Gobius Systems for tank monitoring?  They
>> use one sensor, that performs some sort of vibration calculations for
>> level, work with any fluid, any container material (though maximum
>> thickness for different materials), and even have a NMEA2000 converter.
>> The Gobius Pro system has bluetooth built into each sensor, with an app for
>> android or iOs.  Only need power supplied to the sensor, no other wires.
>> https://www.gobius.se/en/produkt-kategori/gobius-pro-en/
>> 
>> Christian Caperton
>> 1994 C320 #138 "Canuck" Monroe Harbor, Chicago, IL
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 11:56:20 -0500
> From: Cliff Lee <rcliffordlee at gmail.com>
> To: "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com TtS"
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> Subject: [C320-list] Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268
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> It is time to replace the fridge after 25 years.  While I think the
> evaporator may be the problem, better to replace in whole and get the
> efficiency improvement.  I've read a lot of the threads on the C320 site,
> but I would appreciate your thoughts on:
> 1.  There is a long, thin wood veneer running along the port side of our
> aft berth, about 2 feet above the mattress.  We have routinely had moisture
> at the forward point of the veneer over the years.  I suspect it may be
> condensation around the refrigerant tubing leaving the fridge, but don't
> really know.  I can't find any other leaks in that area.  I am thinking I
> may need to remove that veneer anyway to gain access to run the new
> refrigerant tubing from the fridge to the port aft locker where our
> compressor/condenser is/will be.  Does this sound right and how difficult
> is it to remove that veneer?
> 2.  Suggestions for make/model of fridge?  We currently have an older
> Adler-Barbour evaporator mounted vertically on the left side (looking in)
> of the fridge compartment, with the compressor and condenser on a shelf in
> the aft port locker - that seems like a good spot for us, since there is a
> lot of room for cooling air circulation.
> 3.  How difficult is this project really?  I'm not looking forward to
> contorting myself but have been told it is not bad and costs for
> professional installation can be pretty high.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cliff Lee - Comfort Zone 1995 - Hull 268
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 12:16:13 -0500
> From: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net>
> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268
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> Hi Cliff:
> 
> 1) The veneer is just a couple of screws. I too had condensation when some of the plumber?s putty around the refrigerant tube went awry. It will cost you a couple of dollars to buy a new can, and all should be fine.
> 2) I bought the new model of the Adler-Barbour Cold Machine from Defender. Works fine and reasonably priced. Buy a new evaporator, too, because I believe the fittings have changed. I can?t speak for other models, but 320 owners seem reasonably pleased with them, too.
> 3) You?ll hold your breath at times, but it?s not difficult if you pay close attention to the directions and the threads here on how to run the tubing through the passage. You have to be able to climb down into the port stern locker and move around a little.
> 
>   These units are much more efficient than the old ones. I?m guessing I use 35-45 amps to keep the fridge running in a hot West Florida summer; much less than that around now. 
> 
> Jack Brennan
> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> 
> 
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> From: Cliff Lee
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 11:56 AM
> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com TtS
> Subject: [C320-list] Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268
> 
> It is time to replace the fridge after 25 years.  While I think the
> evaporator may be the problem, better to replace in whole and get the
> efficiency improvement.  I've read a lot of the threads on the C320 site,
> but I would appreciate your thoughts on:
> 1.  There is a long, thin wood veneer running along the port side of our
> aft berth, about 2 feet above the mattress.  We have routinely had moisture
> at the forward point of the veneer over the years.  I suspect it may be
> condensation around the refrigerant tubing leaving the fridge, but don't
> really know.  I can't find any other leaks in that area.  I am thinking I
> may need to remove that veneer anyway to gain access to run the new
> refrigerant tubing from the fridge to the port aft locker where our
> compressor/condenser is/will be.  Does this sound right and how difficult
> is it to remove that veneer?
> 2.  Suggestions for make/model of fridge?  We currently have an older
> Adler-Barbour evaporator mounted vertically on the left side (looking in)
> of the fridge compartment, with the compressor and condenser on a shelf in
> the aft port locker - that seems like a good spot for us, since there is a
> lot of room for cooling air circulation.
> 3.  How difficult is this project really?  I'm not looking forward to
> contorting myself but have been told it is not bad and costs for
> professional installation can be pretty high.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cliff Lee - Comfort Zone 1995 - Hull 268
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 17:21:28 +0000
> From: Graeme Clark <cg at skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: Catalina list <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268
> Message-ID: <C4D37A89-9F3D-4DF5-94A4-8784FBC05868 at skyflyer.co.uk>
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> At the risk of hijacking the thread, I think better insulation around the icebox would also help efficiency. Modern polyurethane rigid foam is so much more effcient than it was 25 years ago when my boat was built.  But I cannot work out how to remove the worktop without causing damage. Has anyone done that?
> 
> Graeme
> 
> #366, 1996
> 
> 
> 
>> On 18 Jan 2021, at 17:16, Jack Brennan <jackbrennan at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Cliff:
>> 
>> 1) The veneer is just a couple of screws. I too had condensation when some of the plumber?s putty around the refrigerant tube went awry. It will cost you a couple of dollars to buy a new can, and all should be fine.
>> 2) I bought the new model of the Adler-Barbour Cold Machine from Defender. Works fine and reasonably priced. Buy a new evaporator, too, because I believe the fittings have changed. I can?t speak for other models, but 320 owners seem reasonably pleased with them, too.
>> 3) You?ll hold your breath at times, but it?s not difficult if you pay close attention to the directions and the threads here on how to run the tubing through the passage. You have to be able to climb down into the port stern locker and move around a little.
>> 
>>  These units are much more efficient than the old ones. I?m guessing I use 35-45 amps to keep the fridge running in a hot West Florida summer; much less than that around now. 
>> 
>> Jack Brennan
>> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>> 
>> From: Cliff Lee
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 11:56 AM
>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com TtS
>> Subject: [C320-list] Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268
>> 
>> It is time to replace the fridge after 25 years.  While I think the
>> evaporator may be the problem, better to replace in whole and get the
>> efficiency improvement.  I've read a lot of the threads on the C320 site,
>> but I would appreciate your thoughts on:
>> 1.  There is a long, thin wood veneer running along the port side of our
>> aft berth, about 2 feet above the mattress.  We have routinely had moisture
>> at the forward point of the veneer over the years.  I suspect it may be
>> condensation around the refrigerant tubing leaving the fridge, but don't
>> really know.  I can't find any other leaks in that area.  I am thinking I
>> may need to remove that veneer anyway to gain access to run the new
>> refrigerant tubing from the fridge to the port aft locker where our
>> compressor/condenser is/will be.  Does this sound right and how difficult
>> is it to remove that veneer?
>> 2.  Suggestions for make/model of fridge?  We currently have an older
>> Adler-Barbour evaporator mounted vertically on the left side (looking in)
>> of the fridge compartment, with the compressor and condenser on a shelf in
>> the aft port locker - that seems like a good spot for us, since there is a
>> lot of room for cooling air circulation.
>> 3.  How difficult is this project really?  I'm not looking forward to
>> contorting myself but have been told it is not bad and costs for
>> professional installation can be pretty high.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Cliff Lee - Comfort Zone 1995 - Hull 268
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2021 12:26:23 -0500
> From: John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Refrigerator Replacement - 1995 Hull 268
> Message-ID: <79C072B3-5A7E-4B61-9576-548BD9DF9F52 at sympatico.ca>
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> I installed a Nova Kool LT201 compressor with the RT6 freezer box. Cost 1200CAD and draws less than 3A when running on slow speed. If you?re handy the job is very easy and the Cu tubing goes directly from the coolbox into the port lazarette, where the compressor is situated. 12V wiring easily adapted to the new unit.The freezer box is larger than the original so I mounted it on the back wall of the coolbox. Imagine just turning the original freezer box 90degrees from it?s position on the left hand end of the coolbox. 
> This has come up a number of times so I guess I could prep a short article with pics for Mainsheet?
> Regards
> JohnM
> 1999#574
> 
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2021, at 11:56 AM, Cliff Lee <rcliffordlee at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It is time to replace the fridge after 25 years.  While I think the
>> evaporator may be the problem, better to replace in whole and get the
>> efficiency improvement.  I've read a lot of the threads on the C320 site,
>> but I would appreciate your thoughts on:
>> 1.  There is a long, thin wood veneer running along the port side of our
>> aft berth, about 2 feet above the mattress.  We have routinely had moisture
>> at the forward point of the veneer over the years.  I suspect it may be
>> condensation around the refrigerant tubing leaving the fridge, but don't
>> really know.  I can't find any other leaks in that area.  I am thinking I
>> may need to remove that veneer anyway to gain access to run the new
>> refrigerant tubing from the fridge to the port aft locker where our
>> compressor/condenser is/will be.  Does this sound right and how difficult
>> is it to remove that veneer?
>> 2.  Suggestions for make/model of fridge?  We currently have an older
>> Adler-Barbour evaporator mounted vertically on the left side (looking in)
>> of the fridge compartment, with the compressor and condenser on a shelf in
>> the aft port locker - that seems like a good spot for us, since there is a
>> lot of room for cooling air circulation.
>> 3.  How difficult is this project really?  I'm not looking forward to
>> contorting myself but have been told it is not bad and costs for
>> professional installation can be pretty high.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Cliff Lee - Comfort Zone 1995 - Hull 268
> 
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