[C320-list] Life line replacement
Sara Skinner Schroeder
saras951 at comcast.net
Tue Mar 2 20:27:03 PST 2021
This email string is timely as I was just getting ready to order the CD pre-made lifelines for my 2000. I looked at the suggestion of sending my old life lines to Rigging Only but they are in Massachusetts. I’m in Seattle. I don’t mind trying this myself but I am a little disconcerted by the thought of having to use the tools and the job not looking professional. Would be interested in thoughts of doing it myself or just jobbing it out to a rigger. It appears the CD cost would be somewhere around $650 for parts only.
Sara
Wandering Star
2000/#707
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: GPS malfunction (Michael Leschisin)
> 2. Re: Lifeline replacement (Joe Geiger)
> 3. Re: Lifeline replacement (Cheryl Dahl)
> 4. Re: Lifeline replacement (Troy Dunn)
> 5. Midship cleat on traveler (Scott Westwood)
> 6. Re: Midship cleat on traveler (P.F. Ross)
> 7. Re: Midship cleat on traveler (Christian)
> 8. Re: Midship cleat on traveler (RONALD HODEL)
> 9. Re: Midship cleat on traveler (Steven Snyder)
> 10. Re: Midship cleat on traveler (Jerry Schrock)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 15:42:33 -0600
> From: Michael Leschisin <mleschisin at imagestudios.com>
> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] GPS malfunction
> Message-ID: <26EC1FCB-1B95-4BD1-AC1F-340D69744B38 at imagestudios.com>
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> Hey Crosby,
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> I chased this same rabbit two winters ago on my C80 display. I?m guessing you?re asking about the same unit when you refer to the ?C-series? in your email?
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> First thing to check is that you have power going to your external GPS antenna. Mine is wired up so that the GPS display is on its own breaker and the antenna actually draws power from the Auto Pilot circuit. If I have my ?GPS? is powered up but the auto helm breaker is off, I get the "satellite with a slash through it symbol" and ?No Fix? on my display. (Took me a few headache to figure this out). I?m not sure if that?s a standard Catalina install or if its wiring I inherited from the previous owner but for what its worth?.a pretty easy check by powering up your auto helm.
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> The next thing to check is the battery inside your external GPS antenna (the white mushroom shaped antenna that is on your stern rail). Inside, there is a small button battery that is supposed to last a dozen years or so and once it fails the antenna won?t function. If this is the problem, it can be replaced but its a bit of a challenge since the battery is spot welded in and you have to rip or split the metal tabs from the battery, while not ripping them from the circuit board of the antenna. If you can get it out the new battery needs to be attached but soldering is not a good idea since the lithium battery can explode. You might try an electrically conductive glue (amazon) to reset the battery. I didn?t have any luck with the new battery; I may have damaged the circuit board or according to Raymarine, the antennas have a given life expectancy and at some point they simply give up the ghost.
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> I ended up ordering a new antenna from Raymarine. They no longer make the old antennas that operated on SeaTalk, so you?ll need to replace it with a Raymarine antenna that now operates on NEMA. You?ll also need a NEMA/SeaTalk converter that brings the signal down to SeaTalk for your C80 display to understand. The converter is a small strip of plugs that can be easily buried in your NAvPod station so not a real big deal. I apologize that I don?t have model numbers for the new antenna or the converter (I?m away from the boat for he season) but the technical services at Raymarine were super helpful and they will get you set up and walk you through what needs to be done. I think it was around $250 for the new antenna and converter.
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> As I recall, the new antenna came with the wiring preinstalled so my choice was to cut the old wiring and reattach it to the new antenna or to pull the new wiring through the stern rails, under the cockpit and up the pedestal to the NavPod. It was a pain, but I opted for the latter since with my luck the connection and GPS would fail at the exact worst time as I?m trying to navigate around obstacles.
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> Good luck with it all; hope this helps,
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> Michael Leschisin
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> Wild Blue Yonder
> #995
> Menonminee, MI
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>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Crosby Roper <vmdatsea at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Frank How do I tell if it?s saetalk or nmea0183?
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Mar 1, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Frank Yaskin <frankya at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> ?The C classic series do NOT have a built in GPS receiver.
>>> The data is fed from an external sensor via either the SeaTalk network or NEMA0183. So either your external sensor or the cabling to the C-xx is at fault.
>>> Plenty of info on Raymarine clasic units on the web or Raymarines site. If you need a new sensor, Digital Yacht has replacements for the sensor and NEMA to SeaTalk converters at reasonable pricing.
>>> Frank
>>> C-320 #380 Blue Canute
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>> I have a C-series Raymarine MFD. I went out the other day and the GPS was not fixing. There was no message saying that the unit could not find a fix/satellites, there was just no data being received. Can anyone give me an idea of where to start troubleshooting this? I'm not sure whether the MFD has a built in GPS module or whether the module is external and linked via NMEA? I checked the C320.org site and someone mentioned that there is a GPS reset menu. I have not tried this yet but will do so next week. The boat was detailed just before this happened. I'm not sure whether that has anything to do with the problem. She looks great, but I'd rather have the GPS!
>>> Crosby Roper VMD
>>> s/v Tethys
>>> Hull 1054
>>> San Diego, CA
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 17:00:12 -0500
> From: Joe Geiger <joe.geiger at gmail.com>
> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lifeline replacement
> Message-ID: <6582852B-7E6F-4511-A214-783FD17CA15F at gmail.com>
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> We re-did the lifelines on Vega two years ago when we purchased her. We got a kit for the C320 from Catalina Direct that came with all the parts and the crimper tool. They have both coated and non-coated lifelines. Installation took about 2 hours and was pretty straight forward.
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> With the CD lines you crimp them in several spots along the swage fitting. I don?t think it looks as good as what our rigging shop could have done but it was half the price.
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> Joe
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> Joe Geiger
> "Vega? Hull #722
> Greenwich Cove, RI
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>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Charles Martin <chiprmartin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Shipmates:
>> I am planning to use the C320 International Association's lifeline crimping
>> tool to replace my lifelines. Has anyone done this recently? I am
>> thinking of using 1x19 stainless steel wire at 3/16" diameter (without the
>> plastic coating). Does anyone know if the tool, which I haven't picked up
>> yet, will crimp pelican hooks onto this diameter of wire? I am planning to
>> get the wire and hardware from Defender. Any advice would be appreciated.
>> Best,
>> Chip Martin
>> S/V Bonaventure, hull #767
>> (410) 231-0199
>> chiprmartin at gmail.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 14:18:26 -0800
> From: Cheryl Dahl <dahls2017 at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lifeline replacement
> Message-ID:
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> Chip ,
> I just replaced mine with CD kit as well .
> I purchased from my neighbor at the marina who had ordered them for his
> girlfriend?s 310 and she sold the boat .
> The CD kit is good for 30 ,310 and 320 .
> The instructions call for 5 crimps on each fitting. To expedite the process
> I used a cordless impact to drive the two bolts on the swedge tool . One of
> the easier projects for our boat .
> Cheers
> Steve Dahl
> #412 Sans Souci
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>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 2:00 PM Joe Geiger <joe.geiger at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We re-did the lifelines on Vega two years ago when we purchased her. We
>> got a kit for the C320 from Catalina Direct that came with all the parts
>> and the crimper tool. They have both coated and non-coated lifelines.
>> Installation took about 2 hours and was pretty straight forward.
>> With the CD lines you crimp them in several spots along the swage
>> fitting. I don?t think it looks as good as what our rigging shop could
>> have done but it was half the price.
>> Joe
>> ?
>> Joe Geiger
>> "Vega? Hull #722
>> Greenwich Cove, RI
>>> On Feb 28, 2021, at 5:56 PM, Charles Martin <chiprmartin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Dear Shipmates:
>>> I am planning to use the C320 International Association's lifeline
>> crimping
>>> tool to replace my lifelines. Has anyone done this recently? I am
>>> thinking of using 1x19 stainless steel wire at 3/16" diameter (without
>> the
>>> plastic coating). Does anyone know if the tool, which I haven't picked
>> up
>>> yet, will crimp pelican hooks onto this diameter of wire? I am planning
>> to
>>> get the wire and hardware from Defender. Any advice would be
>> appreciated.
>>> Best,
>>> Chip Martin
>>> S/V Bonaventure, hull #767
>>> (410) 231-0199
>>> chiprmartin at gmail.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2021 19:16:19 -0500
> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lifeline replacement
> Message-ID:
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> If you are thinking maybe a rigger then I am definitely a plus one on west
> marine rigging shop. They did a fantastic job, it looks very
> professional. I can dig up our costs...I don?t think it was double CD DIY
> cost, but we did reuse all the hooks etc.
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> The cost differential was worth the piece of mind and good looks of a
> professional install to us. YMWV.
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> Troy Dunn
> Hull #514
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 14:41:24 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
> To: 320 <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Midship cleat on traveler
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> I am not near the boat.? Does anybody know the size Jib traveler for 1998 C320?I decided to go with a cleat on the Jib traveler.? I think it is a 1 inch traveler??? I will measure for sure before I purchase but if anybody else can confirm then it will narrow my search.
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> Thanks,
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> Scott Westwood?scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 09:46:58 -0500
> From: "P.F. Ross" <pfrstl at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Midship cleat on traveler
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> Scott,
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> My jib track is 1-1/4".
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> I use two each Schaefer Mid-Rail cleats (Defender 612955) and they work
> great!
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> Frank Ross
> Beta Wave #206
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> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:41 AM Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
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>> I am not near the boat. Does anybody know the size Jib traveler for 1998
>> C320?I decided to go with a cleat on the Jib traveler. I think it is a 1
>> inch traveler?? I will measure for sure before I purchase but if anybody
>> else can confirm then it will narrow my search.
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 08:51:56 -0600
> From: Christian <ccaper at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Midship cleat on traveler
> Message-ID:
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> Scott,
> 1994, #138, mine is 1 1/4". I got the stainless steel midship from Catalina
> Direct, works nice.
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>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:47 AM P.F. Ross <pfrstl at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Scott,
>> My jib track is 1-1/4".
>> I use two each Schaefer Mid-Rail cleats (Defender 612955) and they work
>> great!
>> Frank Ross
>> Beta Wave #206
>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:41 AM Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
>> wrote:
>>> I am not near the boat. Does anybody know the size Jib traveler for 1998
>>> C320?I decided to go with a cleat on the Jib traveler. I think it is a 1
>>> inch traveler?? I will measure for sure before I purchase but if anybody
>>> else can confirm then it will narrow my search.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 06:55:15 -0800
> From: RONALD HODEL <ronandgail2 at me.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Midship cleat on traveler
> Message-ID: <5B58E19D-818B-40AD-8EA8-3992F6EE2B02 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> The track is 1 1/4?
> Ron Hodel
> Lokomaikai #1070
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> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 2, 2021, at 6:41 AM, Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> ?I am not near the boat. Does anybody know the size Jib traveler for 1998 C320?I decided to go with a cleat on the Jib traveler. I think it is a 1 inch traveler?? I will measure for sure before I purchase but if anybody else can confirm then it will narrow my search.
>> Thanks,
>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 09:58:35 -0500
> From: Steven Snyder <mssnydr at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Midship cleat on traveler
> Message-ID:
> <CAFrmQcsgeupG=4f+-Ov6fY46NGU6Vx2iU0sTuWeoxGM88Xmd6A at mail.gmail.com>
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> I used the 1 - 1/4? track Schaefer Mid-Rail cleats (Defender 612955) as
> well.
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> Steve Snyder
> Windcatcher #1101
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>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:52 AM Christian <ccaper at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Scott,
>> 1994, #138, mine is 1 1/4". I got the stainless steel midship from Catalina
>> Direct, works nice.
>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:47 AM P.F. Ross <pfrstl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>> My jib track is 1-1/4".
>>> I use two each Schaefer Mid-Rail cleats (Defender 612955) and they work
>>> great!
>>> Frank Ross
>>> Beta Wave #206
>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:41 AM Scott Westwood <
>> scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am not near the boat. Does anybody know the size Jib traveler for
>> 1998
>>>> C320?I decided to go with a cleat on the Jib traveler. I think it is
>> a 1
>>>> inch traveler?? I will measure for sure before I purchase but if
>> anybody
>>>> else can confirm then it will narrow my search.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2021 11:20:04 -0600
> From: Jerry Schrock <jschrock256 at comcast.net>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Midship cleat on traveler
> Message-ID: <00D9DAEC-C283-4E67-B5B2-75D9569222C3 at comcast.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Track on mine is 1 1/4 in. 1998 #500
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 2, 2021, at 08:52, Christian <ccaper at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ?Scott,
>> 1994, #138, mine is 1 1/4". I got the stainless steel midship from Catalina
>> Direct, works nice.
>>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 8:47 AM P.F. Ross <pfrstl at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Scott,
>>> My jib track is 1-1/4".
>>> I use two each Schaefer Mid-Rail cleats (Defender 612955) and they work
>>> great!
>>> Frank Ross
>>> Beta Wave #206
>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 9:41 AM Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net
>>> wrote:
>>>> I am not near the boat. Does anybody know the size Jib traveler for 1998
>>>> C320?I decided to go with a cleat on the Jib traveler. I think it is a 1
>>>> inch traveler?? I will measure for sure before I purchase but if anybody
>>>> else can confirm then it will narrow my search.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
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