[C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 3956, Issue 1
Fishbust
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Mon Mar 8 02:59:19 PST 2021
Buffing and polishing.
I have been using gary’s marine wax for decades after seeing a detail company using it at the boatyard.
It has a very light abrasive, will remove oxidation and wax in one step.
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> 1. Buffing and polishing (nibj)
> 2. Re: Buffing and polishing (Brian McLamb)
> 3. Re: Buffing and polishing (Joe Luciano)
> 4. Re: Buffing and polishing (Troy Dunn)
> 5. Re: Buffing and polishing (Joe Jablonowski)
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> From: nibj <nibj at mac.com>
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> Last year I escaped polishing our (new to us in 2019) C320 due to lockdown. This year I have to do it. The hull looks pretty good but the cabin and cockpit sides are a bit chalky. I have a Porter-Cable random orbital polisher (but have never used it!). So help please?.
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> a) What compound and polish do you like?
> b) How many pads and of what type should I buy for the polisher?
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> Any advice would be much appreciated. I hope the boat will look tip-top this year :-)
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> 4. Re: Buffing and polishing (Troy Dunn)
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> From: nibj <nibj at mac.com>
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> Last year I escaped polishing our (new to us in 2019) C320 due to lockdown. This year I have to do it. The hull looks pretty good but the cabin and cockpit sides are a bit chalky. I have a Porter-Cable random orbital polisher (but have never used it!). So help please?.
>
> a) What compound and polish do you like?
> b) How many pads and of what type should I buy for the polisher?
>
> Any advice would be much appreciated. I hope the boat will look tip-top this year :-)
>
> Thanks
> Peter
> Tangled #226
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> From: Brian McLamb <bjcnmclamb at gmail.com>
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> I really like Meguars Marine wax. It is liquid that is easy to work with
> and lasts well. I have used it for several years on salon exterior and for
> the cockpit. Never tried it with a buffer as I use micro cloth by hand.
>
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 6:16 PM nibj <nibj at mac.com> wrote:
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>> Last year I escaped polishing our (new to us in 2019) C320 due to
>> lockdown. This year I have to do it. The hull looks pretty good but the
>> cabin and cockpit sides are a bit chalky. I have a Porter-Cable random
>> orbital polisher (but have never used it!). So help please?.
>>
>> a) What compound and polish do you like?
>> b) How many pads and of what type should I buy for the polisher?
>>
>> Any advice would be much appreciated. I hope the boat will look tip-top
>> this year :-)
>>
>> Thanks
>> Peter
>> Tangled #226
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> --
> Brian McLamb
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> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 15:51:14 -0800
> From: Joe Luciano <jnluciano at comcast.net>
> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Buffing and polishing
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> The key is removing the oxidation (chalkiness) before applying any choice of wax or other surface finish. I?m a fan of Polarshine compound material to remove the oxidation. I use the Polarshine 10 product which is on the fine side of the products they make. I find it to be non-gritty and fairly gentle on the gelcoat. I use a DeWalt circular polisher on the hull to apply the material, but I don?t find it helpful on the topsides becasuse of the various obstacles and corners involved, so I end up doing the topsides by hand, which takes a while?? I tried an orbital originally on the hull and I didn?t find it to work very well at all. I see many people in the boat yard just put wax on over the top of an oxidized gelcoat. Total waste of time IMO and within a month or two it doesn?t look any better than when they started. As far as waxes go, there are many good ones out there. The Collinite waxes have always had good reviews in Practical Sailor and I have used them, but there are m
> any others that will work just as well. You may want to check what PS says relativ eto their latest reviews. And again, the key is removing the oxidation first. Best of luck?..
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> Joe Luciano
> C-320 #1044
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>> On Mar 7, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Brian McLamb <bjcnmclamb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I really like Meguars Marine wax. It is liquid that is easy to work with
>> and lasts well. I have used it for several years on salon exterior and for
>> the cockpit. Never tried it with a buffer as I use micro cloth by hand.
>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2021 at 6:16 PM nibj <nibj at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Last year I escaped polishing our (new to us in 2019) C320 due to
>>> lockdown. This year I have to do it. The hull looks pretty good but the
>>> cabin and cockpit sides are a bit chalky. I have a Porter-Cable random
>>> orbital polisher (but have never used it!). So help please?.
>>>
>>> a) What compound and polish do you like?
>>> b) How many pads and of what type should I buy for the polisher?
>>>
>>> Any advice would be much appreciated. I hope the boat will look tip-top
>>> this year :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Peter
>>> Tangled #226
>>
>> --
>> Brian McLamb
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> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2021 19:02:00 -0500
> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
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> Peter-
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> Do you know when the last time Tangled was detailed? It's really hard to
> reccomend compounds, polishes, waxes and pads without knowing the condition
> of your gelcoat. Assuming it is not chalky in appearance and does not
> require compounding, I suggest you start with a polish.
>
> For polishing I like the Chemical Guys polishing pad. It?s a pinkish
> color...at least the one I got. Use a good marine polish. My favorite
> is 3M.
>
> For wax...go with Collinite Fleet Wax. Do NOT let it dry completely. For
> best results you should have a water spray bottle handy to lightly mist the
> wax if it gets dry before you get it off. Work in small areas. You can
> find guides and videos on line for doing this. Once you are finished go
> back and buff it with soft buffing pad on the entire hull.
>
> If you need to remove oxidized gelcoat you will need to use cutting
> compounds and the glaze to remove the swirls from compounding. This can
> turn into a serious multi day project.... if you go this route, I like
> the Finesse It glazes... For cutting pads Chemical Guys have some decent
> cutting pads that aren?t too agressivr.
>
> Good luck, the PC is a good and safe DA polisher. Most professional boat
> detailers use higher speed buffers that generate a tad more heat, when
> executed properly they do a better job than the polisher. When executed
> improperly, things can go pear shaped in a hurry.
>
> Don?t let the wet pads spin too much when not in contact with the
> hull....they will rotate too fast and self destruct...ask me how I know.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Troy Dunn
> Hull#514
>
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> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 00:27:56 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Joe Jablonowski <appleton1 at yahoo.com>
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> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Buffing and polishing
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> Has anyone tried on of the new "marine ceramic coatings"?"They're supposed to create a "nanoceramic" film that lasts longer than wax.I'm thinking of products like Glidecoat or those from Gtechniq. Said to be developed for cars originally.- Joe Jablonowskis/v Assignment, C320 #103
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> On Sunday, March 7, 2021, 07:02:23 PM EST, Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Peter-
>
> Do you know when the last time Tangled was detailed?? It's really hard to
> reccomend compounds, polishes, waxes and pads without knowing the condition
> of your gelcoat.? Assuming it is not chalky in appearance and does not
> require compounding, I suggest you start with a polish.
>
> For polishing I like the Chemical Guys polishing pad.? It?s a pinkish
> color...at least the one I got.? Use a good marine polish.? ? My favorite
> is 3M.
>
> For wax...go with Collinite Fleet Wax.? Do NOT let it dry completely.? For
> best results you should have a water spray bottle handy to lightly mist the
> wax if it gets dry before you get it off.? ? Work in small areas. You can
> find guides and videos on line for doing this.? Once you are finished go
> back and buff it with soft buffing pad on the entire hull.
>
> If you need to remove oxidized gelcoat you will need to use cutting
> compounds and the glaze to remove the swirls from compounding.? This can
> turn into a serious multi day project....? if you go this route, I like
> the Finesse It glazes...? For cutting pads Chemical Guys have some decent
> cutting pads that aren?t too agressivr.
>
> Good luck, the PC is a good and safe DA polisher.? Most professional boat
> detailers use higher speed buffers that generate a tad more heat, when
> executed properly they do a better job than the polisher.? When executed
> improperly, things can go pear shaped in a hurry.
>
> Don?t let the wet pads spin too much when not in contact with the
> hull....they will rotate too fast and self destruct...ask me how I know.
>
> Good Luck
>
> Troy Dunn
> Hull#514
>
>
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