[C320-list] Port Window Advice Requested

Christian ccaper at gmail.com
Mon Mar 15 15:05:02 PDT 2021


Karl,
mind if I ask motivation for replacing, and what you are replacing?  Lens,
aluminum frame, gaskets, o-rings in dog ears?

Just ask because if it's to fix a leak, only replacing the lens might not
be the root of your problem.
1994 C320 #138 Chicago

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 4:51 PM Karl Krueger <smoothsail282 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> It's time for me to replace 4 (in the salon area) opening port light
> hatches.  It looks as if Catalina Direct has the best price.
>
> Has anyone ordered these items from Catalina Direct?  Also, any advice for
> installation?
>
> Regards,
>
> Karl Krueger
> Kindred Spirit #282
> Milwaukee WI
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 9:31 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > I’m in the process of replacing all the propane hoses on my 23 year old
> > boat. From the propane locker I’ve taken the complete assembly, 2 short
> > hoses plus the gauge, solenoid valve and regulator, to a local propane
> > dealer to have it all replaced except for the gauge. I will replace the
> > long run hose inside the vessel. I can buy the hose and fittings from our
> > local chandlery. I’ve also read that these hoses should be replaced
> every 5
> > years, but I’m thinking 10 is probably safe. Perhaps there is a gas
> > engineer out there who can confirm this?
> > JohnM
> > 1999#574
> >
> > On Mar 15, 2021, at 8:27 AM, kendgb <kendgb at aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Dennis.  Thanks for your info.  Can you tell the outside diameter
> > of the copper tube used and where the copper was run to to attach to a
> > rubber hose.  In other words where are the copper to rubber joints
> > located.ThanksKen GeigerNorthern Dream #765 2000Sent from my Samsung
> Galaxy
> > smartphone.
> > > -------- Original message --------From: Dennis Cookson <
> > dennis at cooksons.net> Date: 2021-03-15  08:10  (GMT-05:00) To:
> > C320-List at catalina320.com Subject: [C320 There’s not a lot of
> information
> > about this topic in the C320 discussion history, so I’m posting this as
> an
> > advisory which might be helpful to other owners.We finally got around to
> > replacing the rubber hose that runs from the propane gas locker on the
> aft
> > port side to the gas stove in the galley, as an essential upgrade
> strongly
> > recommended by our surveyor a while back. Although the existing hose
> still
> > works fine and appears to be in good shape, it is well past its
> recommended
> > lifetime for propane use of just 5 years.  This is because propane
> attacks
> > the rubber from the inside, and it is impossible to see the internal
> stress
> > and damage that may have occurred. Should you be unlucky enough to have a
> > leak while the hose is pressurised, the escaping gas will sink to the
> > bilges of the boat, being heavier than air, where it will stay until
> > ventilated, creating a potentially disastrous hazard.It is usually a
> > condition of insurance policies that gas installations are maintained to
> > meet local regulations, and here in the UK, certified by ‘Gas Safe’
> > registered engineers.  The regulations state that the replacement must
> > deploy copper pipe (typically 10mm thick wall) from the isolation valve
> in
> > the gas locker all the way to a termination point with shut-off valve at
> > the stove, with just a metre of flexible hose at each end for the
> > connections.  The hose behind the stove should be braided for additional
> > protection. So we can’t simply replace like for like.Although in theory
> you
> > could perform the work yourself to the appropriate standards, it would
> > still need to be checked, tested, and certified by a registered engineer
> to
> > meet the insurance requirements. So this is an expensive job, and one
> that
> > owners naturally prefer not to think about. But if your current
> > installation is well over five years old, which many will be, it’s
> > something you can’t really afford to ignore.The good news is that
> Catalina
> > Yachts did make provision (at least from 1999, the year of our boat) for
> > replacement of the hose run from underneath the gas locker to the
> cupboard
> > under the galley sinks. There is a glassed in plastic conduit tube
> through
> > which it is possible to pull through a new pipe, whether copper or
> rubber,
> > using the old rubber one. It requires having one person in the port
> > lazarette and another in the galley for this part of the job, which only
> > takes a few minutes. The rest of the installation can be done by one
> > person.  To avoid the expense of paying for a second contractor, I
> offered
> > my services to act as the engineer's assistant for this task, then left
> him
> > to complete the work alone.Dennis CooksonCatalina #577
> >
> >
>
> --
>
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>
>
> Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI,
> RE/MAX Realty 100
> Phone - 414-322-6541
> Fax - 414-327-6870
>
> Have a smooth sailing day.................................
>


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