[C320-list] Port Window Advice Requested

Karl Krueger smoothsail282 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 15 15:09:04 PDT 2021


I'm replacing them because of leaks and the windows are very glazed.

Karl

On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 5:05 PM Christian <ccaper at gmail.com> wrote:

> Karl,
> mind if I ask motivation for replacing, and what you are replacing?  Lens,
> aluminum frame, gaskets, o-rings in dog ears?
>
> Just ask because if it's to fix a leak, only replacing the lens might not
> be the root of your problem.
> 1994 C320 #138 Chicago
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 4:51 PM Karl Krueger <smoothsail282 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello All:
> >
> > It's time for me to replace 4 (in the salon area) opening port light
> > hatches.  It looks as if Catalina Direct has the best price.
> >
> > Has anyone ordered these items from Catalina Direct?  Also, any advice
> for
> > installation?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Karl Krueger
> > Kindred Spirit #282
> > Milwaukee WI
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 9:31 AM John morrison <sail-ability at sympatico.ca
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I’m in the process of replacing all the propane hoses on my 23 year old
> > > boat. From the propane locker I’ve taken the complete assembly, 2 short
> > > hoses plus the gauge, solenoid valve and regulator, to a local propane
> > > dealer to have it all replaced except for the gauge. I will replace the
> > > long run hose inside the vessel. I can buy the hose and fittings from
> our
> > > local chandlery. I’ve also read that these hoses should be replaced
> > every 5
> > > years, but I’m thinking 10 is probably safe. Perhaps there is a gas
> > > engineer out there who can confirm this?
> > > JohnM
> > > 1999#574
> > >
> > > On Mar 15, 2021, at 8:27 AM, kendgb <kendgb at aol.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello Dennis.  Thanks for your info.  Can you tell the outside
> diameter
> > > of the copper tube used and where the copper was run to to attach to a
> > > rubber hose.  In other words where are the copper to rubber joints
> > > located.ThanksKen GeigerNorthern Dream #765 2000Sent from my Samsung
> > Galaxy
> > > smartphone.
> > > > -------- Original message --------From: Dennis Cookson <
> > > dennis at cooksons.net> Date: 2021-03-15  08:10  (GMT-05:00) To:
> > > C320-List at catalina320.com Subject: [C320 There’s not a lot of
> > information
> > > about this topic in the C320 discussion history, so I’m posting this as
> > an
> > > advisory which might be helpful to other owners.We finally got around
> to
> > > replacing the rubber hose that runs from the propane gas locker on the
> > aft
> > > port side to the gas stove in the galley, as an essential upgrade
> > strongly
> > > recommended by our surveyor a while back. Although the existing hose
> > still
> > > works fine and appears to be in good shape, it is well past its
> > recommended
> > > lifetime for propane use of just 5 years.  This is because propane
> > attacks
> > > the rubber from the inside, and it is impossible to see the internal
> > stress
> > > and damage that may have occurred. Should you be unlucky enough to
> have a
> > > leak while the hose is pressurised, the escaping gas will sink to the
> > > bilges of the boat, being heavier than air, where it will stay until
> > > ventilated, creating a potentially disastrous hazard.It is usually a
> > > condition of insurance policies that gas installations are maintained
> to
> > > meet local regulations, and here in the UK, certified by ‘Gas Safe’
> > > registered engineers.  The regulations state that the replacement must
> > > deploy copper pipe (typically 10mm thick wall) from the isolation valve
> > in
> > > the gas locker all the way to a termination point with shut-off valve
> at
> > > the stove, with just a metre of flexible hose at each end for the
> > > connections.  The hose behind the stove should be braided for
> additional
> > > protection. So we can’t simply replace like for like.Although in theory
> > you
> > > could perform the work yourself to the appropriate standards, it would
> > > still need to be checked, tested, and certified by a registered
> engineer
> > to
> > > meet the insurance requirements. So this is an expensive job, and one
> > that
> > > owners naturally prefer not to think about. But if your current
> > > installation is well over five years old, which many will be, it’s
> > > something you can’t really afford to ignore.The good news is that
> > Catalina
> > > Yachts did make provision (at least from 1999, the year of our boat)
> for
> > > replacement of the hose run from underneath the gas locker to the
> > cupboard
> > > under the galley sinks. There is a glassed in plastic conduit tube
> > through
> > > which it is possible to pull through a new pipe, whether copper or
> > rubber,
> > > using the old rubber one. It requires having one person in the port
> > > lazarette and another in the galley for this part of the job, which
> only
> > > takes a few minutes. The rest of the installation can be done by one
> > > person.  To avoid the expense of paying for a second contractor, I
> > offered
> > > my services to act as the engineer's assistant for this task, then left
> > him
> > > to complete the work alone.Dennis CooksonCatalina #577
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
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> >
> >
> > Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI,
> > RE/MAX Realty 100
> > Phone - 414-322-6541
> > Fax - 414-327-6870
> >
> > Have a smooth sailing day.................................
> >
>


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Karl W Krueger - ABR, CRS, GRI,
RE/MAX Realty 100
Phone - 414-322-6541
Fax - 414-327-6870

Have a smooth sailing day.................................


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