[C320-list] Intermittent list emails - and a NEW TOPIC TOILET RELATED!

Tue Aug 9 19:46:25 PDT 2022

Of course, the problem with Facebook is that many people choose not to be part of it because of the way it operates in regard to privacy, etc.

It’s a messy situation. I used to be the webmaster for the Bristol owners web site. Someone else ran the Google email list. It all went to hell when someone started a Facebook group and worked hard to get everyone to move over there so he could be in charge.

Some moved. Some didn’t. The group split and everyone suffered. I sold my Bristol and said anyone could use the articles on the web site, but that I would no longer fund it. The result was a new, crappy web site and two underused email lists.

I fear that’s what’s happening here. Platform issues shouldn’t divide the 320 owners.

Jack Brennan
Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.

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From: mike at softscrap.com<mailto:mike at softscrap.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 10:31 PM
To: C320-List at Catalina320.com<mailto:C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Intermittent list emails - and a NEW TOPIC TOILET RELATED!

There are obviously many other options available, and I do no appreciate the Snarky response to looking at options.  The 320 website is a great asset but is has become hard to use.  I actually fine the Facebook 320 group very responsive,  If the C320 list is to survive it needs to become easier and ... less snarky.

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From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of Graeme Clark
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 5:40 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Intermittent list emails - and a NEW TOPIC TOILET RELATED!

David
Online Bulletin board type forums are off the shelf and take minutes to set up. I’m More than happy to do so. (And have done for other associations) However there is no point doing that work until there is agreement that this is the way forward. To be frank, your remarks don’t help us progress and stifle debate as people become afraid to voice an opinion or make a suggestion Graeme

Sent from my phone. Excuse typos!

> On 9 Aug 2022, at 21:59, David Prudden <dprudden at icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Graeme, Mike and David- since you are so willing to suggest migrating to something newer, when can you have a new list completed by???
>
> People are so quick to say they want something newer and better but won’t do anything to make it so.
>
> If you don’t have the skills to build it or the $ to pay for someone to do the work, then perhaps you shouldn’t be asking for it. Every year, voting opens up for people to get elected to the board to help but hardly anyone steps up. It’s all volunteer work….. appreciate what we have until someone DOES volunteer to do the work….and it’s a bit of work.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 4:48 PM, David Prudden <dprudden at icloud.com> wrote:
>> Feel free to build a new discussion list….
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 4:24 PM, Greg Arnold <greg-arnold at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>    It is easier to read old threads if you don't suddenly change the topic
>>> in the middle of the thread.  Could you start a new thread?
>>> Greg
>>> 2005 #1054
>>>
>>>> On 8/9/2022 12:51 PM, David Wellerstein wrote:
>>>
>>> And now that I have everyone’s attention…. :)
>>>
>>> I am planning to replace the toilet on my C320.  The current toilet
>>> has a leak i n the pump and for an extra $100 I thought I would just
>>> replace the whole thing rather than just the pump assembly.  Also, I
>>> can now get a standard size bowl vs . a compact sized toilet currently installed.
>>>
>>> There seems to be a hose running from the flushing pump outlet tail
>>> to the toile t that goes through the back of the head rather than
>>> straight across like the on e supplied with the new toilet.  Can I
>>> just use the new line or should I connect the existing lines that
>>> run behind the head wall?  Is there a reason for that c onfiguration that I’m missing?  This is a standard Jabsco marine toilet.
>>>
>>> Are there any other gotchas to doing this seemingly simple swap (I
>>> know, famous last words…the easiest of jobs always turn into
>>> complications of the unexpected variety when it comes to boat maintenance).
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> David
>>> “Dream Catcher” #118
>>>
>>> David Wellerstein | [1]dwellers at mac.com | 925.301.6581 (m)
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:40 AM, David Wellerstein [2]<dwellers at mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Full agreement here.
>>>
>>> #118
>>>
>>> David Wellerstein | [3]dwellers at mac.com | 925.301.6581 (m)
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:33 AM, Graeme Clark [4]<cg at skyflyer.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> About 11 years ago, when I joined this list, I got well and truly
>>> flamed for dar ing to suggest that we migrate to something  a little
>>> more modern!  To be fair, eleven years ago cellphone coverage and
>>> smartphones weren't what they are today, so the argument was that an
>>> email-style list was very low on data usage and ban dwidth
>>> requirements and could be relied upon when trying to get an answer
>>> to a p roblem whilst upside down in the aft lazarette locker, using a Nokia 3220 phone whilst ten miles offshore.
>>>
>>> AT the risk of being flamed again; is it time to revisit this?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Graeme Clark
>>> #366, 1996
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 9 Aug 2022, at 19:21, Mike Bird [5]<mgb-avalon at yosemite.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Spam filters don't like the way this list is setup so a lot of
>>> messages get filtered out.
>>>
>>> These days setting up a mailing list on a service that is not linked
>>> to spam and then getting it to correctly process SPF, DKIM, and
>>> DMARC is a lot more difficult than it used to be.
>>>
>>> --Mike
>>>
>>> X-Spam-Status: (personal data omitted) tests=CTE_8BIT_MISMATCH,DKIM_INVALID,
>>>      DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM,
>>>      HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,
>>>      RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_NONE,
>>>      T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=disabled version=3.4.6
>>>
>>> References
>>>
>>> 1. mailto:dwellers at mac.com
>>> 2. mailto:dwellers at mac.com
>>> 3. mailto:dwellers at mac.com
>>> 4. mailto:cg at skyflyer.co.uk
>>> 5. mailto:mgb-avalon at yosemite.net

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