[C320-list] Jib size

[Joe Grande]

When it came time to replace the 130, I went with a furling 150 from North Sails. It came with reefing pad at the luff. My next furling came from FX. While happy with workmanship and price, it lacks the reefing pad. It has served me well in Puget Sound. I have also added a cruising spinnaker from FX.
Joe Grande
2000 320 #772
Whisper

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From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Sara Schroeder via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Jib size

In 2019 I got tired of rounding up with my 155 so I put it in the garage and now sail with a 130. I'm super happy with it.  I went with a 130 based on the comments from all of you.  I agree with Jack about the ability to reef with the 130.  When you order a new one, spend the extra boat bucks and have them install reefing pads.  The pads fill in the space created by rolling in the sail and adds to better shape. Finally, the smaller sail almost completely eliminated the rounding up problem and heeling is easily adjusted by letting the main out a bit.

My two cents.

Sara Schroeder
Wandering Star
Seattle, WA
2000/#707


> On 03/01/2024 9:03 AM PST Greg Arnold via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
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>
> For what it is worth:
>
> In the book "The World's Best Sailboats" by Ferenc Mate, sailmaker Ted
> Hood says (pages 199-200):  "I'm against a cruising boat having any kind
> of genoa, any overlay.  Well maybe a couple feet but that is all. . . .
> The only reason big genoas are used is that the rules don't charge you
> for it. . . .   If you had to pay for the overlap, you'd never see a
> genoa on a racing boat.  The little bit of power you gain when you go
> from a 110 to a 150 genoa you can parallel by adding two feet to the
> height of your mast."
>
> In fact, most modern sailboat designs have gone to non-overlapping
> sails.  Really easy to deal with, especially when tacking.  Often, a
> genoa is not even a possibility, because the shrouds are mounted at the
> toerail.
>
> When I got a new jib, I went from a 150 to a 125.  When going to
> weather, I can trim it much more tightly before it hits the spreaders
> and shrouds.  As well as I can tell, the boat is not any slower in light
> wind.
>
> The ideal jib may be 105 to 110, but, as Hood notes, at some point you
> need to increase the height of the mast to make up for lost sail area.
> Unfortunately, Catalina did not offer a tall mast option on the 320.
>
> Greg Arnold
> 2005 C320 #1054
> Channel Islands Harbor, SoCal
>
>
> On 3/1/2024 7:39 AM, Jack Brennan via C320-list wrote:
> > I sail in light-air Florida, and my 130 is just fine.
> >
> > The main advantage of a smaller jib is the shape when you reef it on roller furling. With a 130, you can roll it to a 90 or 100 and still maintain some shape for pointing. With a 150, you might start losing shape at 120.
> >
> > I got this advice many years ago from a lifelong bluewater sailor, and it seems to hold up.
> >
> > I think maintaining a clean bottom and paying attention to how you set your sails is probably just as important as sail size.
> >
> > Jack Brennan
> > Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> > Tierra Verde, Fl.
> >
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> > From: C320-list<c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com>  on behalf of Dave Hupe via C320-list<c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
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> > Cc: Dave Hupe<hoopdtwo at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Jib size
> >
> > My 150 "bit the dust" so I was faced at the end of my last season with needing a new genoa.  Since I handle all of our  sailing duties and the Admiral doesn’t like to heel, I elected to get a 135.  I expect to reef less but still have sufficient power to cruise nicely.
> > Dave Hupe
> > 1994 C320 #32
> >   Holland,  MI
> >
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