[C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
Allan Field
allanfield47 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 23 09:43:15 PDT 2024
Sink drain thruhull above the waterline? Seems like a great entry point for
bugs, spiders and other nasties to enter your boat!
Allan S. Field
On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 12:26 PM Jacob Lang via C320-list <
c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> May have mis spoke. I have some below the water line repairs to do with
> 5200 still. Like my sink thru hull may be leaking and I’m debating
> repurposing that one anyways. Debating just pushing the sink to drain above
> the water line. Tracking 4200 for other stuff around the inside of the
> boat.
>
> Jacob
> Study hull#305
>
> > On Mar 23, 2024, at 11:16, Steve Weinstein via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >
> > Jack and Joe beat me to the punch. It's always been my understanding
> that 5200 is primarily for applications below the water line, mainly
> thru-hull fittings. Stick with 4200. Don't be tempted to use silicone
> sealers, like the stuff they sell for fixing tile leaks in bathrooms. It
> makes a mess and is hard to clean up or remove later. Best if you're
> rebedding things is butyl tap, IMHO.
> > Steve WeinsteinVega #722
> >
> > On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 10:55:51 AM EDT, Joe Grande via
> C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, Jack! I was about to post the same cautionary note about
> 5200. It's intended to be permanent and lacks the flexibility of 4000.
> > I also want to thank our web/list masters for their service to the
> membership!
> > Joe Grande
> > Whisper #772
> >
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> > ________________________________
> > From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
> Jack Brennan via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 7:42:18 AM
> > To: C320-List at Catalina320.com <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> > Cc: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan333 at outlook.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >
> > Be careful with 5200. It is a permanent bond. No going back. 4200 or a
> similar adhesive is better.
> >
> > With the ports, check whether it is the gasket or the caulking around
> the frame. I solved a big leak with butyl tape around the frame.
> >
> > Jack Brennan
> > Sonas, 1898 Catalina 320
> > Tierra Verde, Fl.
> >
> > Sent via the Samsung Galaxy A32 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Jacob Lang via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> > Date: 3/23/24 10:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> > Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >
> > Rainey day was today for sure. Was able to see that pretty much all my
> porthole windows are leaking and seem to have a more serious leak from
> around the propane container. So looks like butyl tape, 4600, and 5200 are
> in my future. Also, I may have a leak from one of the standing rigging
> mounts just above the starboard seating area. Appreciate all the ideas, was
> able to look closely in a lot of the places mentioned above and confirm or
> discount areas that need attention.
> >
> > Jacob
> > STUDY HULL #305
> >
> >> On Mar 23, 2024, at 09:57, Bruce Heyman via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've had some success using dry erase marker on the inside gelcoat.
> Wherever water passes over the dry erase marker it dissolves and goes away.
> >>
> >> Bruce Heyman
> >> Somerset #671 San Pedro (LA) California
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of
> Scott Westwood via C320-list
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 3:33 AM
> >> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >> Cc: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
> >> Subject: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >>
> >> I also agree with the dry paper towel method. Place them anywhere you
> might think you have a leak. I have also had leaks at the main cabin
> portals (Still trying to solve a stubborn one of those with new gasket and
> o-rings). Main cabin hatch (Now solved with new gasket and smoked plastic
> that was cracked). Emergency tiller cover (Solved with bytle ). Pedestal
> (Pedestal currently removed and off getting re-coated) let you know on that
> one. Had a slow leak in the aft cabin slow dripping down aft cabin back
> wall. I also placed paper towels in Port aft locker just front of the
> rudder trunk before it goes under the aft cabin. That covers the whole
> backside. Also agree try being inside in a good solid rain. Good luck.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
> >>
> >>
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> >> 1. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Jack Brennan)
> >> 2. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Troy Dunn)
> >> 3. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Troy Dunn)
> >> 4. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Jacob Lang)
> >> 5. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Jacob Lang)
> >> 6. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Jacob Lang)
> >> 7. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Greg Arnold)
> >> 8. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Greg Arnold)
> >> 9. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Stephen Cox)
> >> 10. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Joe Grande)
> >> 11. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Joe Grande)
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 01:33:00 +0000
> >> From: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan333 at outlook.com>
> >> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
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> >> Boats leak. That?s just a fact. A couple of gallons over a couple of
> months is not much.
> >>
> >> That said, the possibilities are endless. Pinholes in the hatch
> caulking. A poorly closed port. Stanchions. The genoa tracks. The access
> hatch on the cockpit floor for the emergency tiller. A water line. A drain
> leak. The water heater. You can drive yourself crazy.
> >>
> >> Staying on the boat in a storm is a good idea. You can also mark up the
> bilge with chalk or place paper towels in various locations around the
> bilge. You want to follow the trail of the fresh water. That narrows down
> where the water originates.
> >>
> >> On my 1998 320, water from the center aft will pool around the stuffing
> box before draining through a hose into the main bilge. Starboard aft and
> midship will drain into the bilge from near the head. Port side will flow
> under the galley and into the bilge.
> >>
> >> Anything forward will be detected at the removable hatch on the floor
> near the V berth.
> >>
> >> Any leaks from hatches, ports, genoa tracks, etc., will be immediately
> obvious when it is raining. You can also use a hose on a nice day.
> >>
> >> Jack Brennan
> >> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> >> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:49:47 -0400
> >> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
> >> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> Cc: Allan Field <allanfield47 at gmail.com>,
> >> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
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> >>
> >> If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape the
> base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
> >>
> >> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
> >>
> >> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
> dogs, the seals, etc.
> >>
> >> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
> head clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if there
> is a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat during a
> deluge and since these are all behind bulkheads and liners?.it would be
> very difficult to spot.
> >>
> >> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
> >>
> >> Troy Dunn
> >> Hull#514
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:49:47 -0400
> >> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
> >> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> Cc: Allan Field <allanfield47 at gmail.com>,
> >> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID:
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> >
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> >>
> >> If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape the
> base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
> >>
> >> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
> >>
> >> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
> dogs, the seals, etc.
> >>
> >> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
> head clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if there
> is a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat during a
> deluge and since these are all behind bulkheads and liners?.it would be
> very difficult to spot.
> >>
> >> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
> >>
> >> Troy Dunn
> >> Hull#514
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:52:54 -0400
> >> From: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>
> >> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID: <4A8D075A-9E3A-4259-9708-C41D33C45FB5 at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> Thank you for all the info, this is exactly what I was looking for.
> Just some common areas to look. Tomorrow in MD we are suppose to have rain
> all day, so I?ll be on the hunt.
> >>
> >> Jacob
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:42, Jack Brennan via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Boats leak. That?s just a fact. A couple of gallons over a couple of
> months is not much.
> >>>
> >>> That said, the possibilities are endless. Pinholes in the hatch
> caulking. A poorly closed port. Stanchions. The genoa tracks. The access
> hatch on the cockpit floor for the emergency tiller. A water line. A drain
> leak. The water heater. You can drive yourself crazy.
> >>>
> >>> Staying on the boat in a storm is a good idea. You can also mark up
> the bilge with chalk or place paper towels in various locations around the
> bilge. You want to follow the trail of the fresh water. That narrows down
> where the water originates.
> >>>
> >>> On my 1998 320, water from the center aft will pool around the
> stuffing box before draining through a hose into the main bilge. Starboard
> aft and midship will drain into the bilge from near the head. Port side
> will flow under the galley and into the bilge.
> >>>
> >>> Anything forward will be detected at the removable hatch on the floor
> near the V berth.
> >>>
> >>> Any leaks from hatches, ports, genoa tracks, etc., will be
> immediately obvious when it is raining. You can also use a hose on a nice
> day.
> >>>
> >>> Jack Brennan
> >>> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
> >>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Mail<
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> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 5
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:54:17 -0400
> >> From: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>
> >> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> Cc: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>,
> >> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID: <AB013422-E141-4B63-89E4-F335004148BF at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> When you say hatch, does this include the lockers? I don?t think I have
> any seals there.
> >>
> >> Jacob
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:52, Troy Dunn via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape
> >>> the base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
> >>>
> >>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
> >>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
> >>>
> >>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
> >>> dogs, the seals, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
> >>> head clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if
> >>> there is a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat
> >>> during a deluge and since these are all behind bulkheads and
> >>> liners?.it would be very difficult to spot.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
> >>>
> >>> Troy Dunn
> >>> Hull#514
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 6
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:54:17 -0400
> >> From: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>
> >> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> >> Cc: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>,
> >> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID: <AB013422-E141-4B63-89E4-F335004148BF at gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >>
> >> When you say hatch, does this include the lockers? I don?t think I have
> any seals there.
> >>
> >> Jacob
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:52, Troy Dunn via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape
> >>> the base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
> >>>
> >>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
> >>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
> >>>
> >>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
> >>> dogs, the seals, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
> >>> head clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if
> >>> there is a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat
> >>> during a deluge and since these are all behind bulkheads and
> >>> liners?.it would be very difficult to spot.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
> >>>
> >>> Troy Dunn
> >>> Hull#514
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:01:01 -0700
> >> From: Greg Arnold <greg-arnold at gmx.com>
> >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com, c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID: <4f25c26f-d659-43db-9053-5369100db59d at gmx.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> On my boat water came down the inside of the mast. There was no drain
> hole at the base of the mast, so the water level rose inside the mast.?
> >> There is a tube inside the mast that the wires feed into.? Once the
> water level rose to the top of the tube, water went into the tube and ran
> down the wires into the bilge.
> >>
> >> Solution was to drill a drain hole.? Why they didn't do this at the
> factory is a mystery.
> >>
> >> 2005 #1054
> >> So Cal
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On 3/22/2024 5:27 PM, Jacob Lang via C320-list wrote:
> >>> I may regret starting this thread but I?m curious. While my boat is in
> the water I believe my keel bolts were slightly weeping. The boat is out on
> the hard now and I?m addressing the slight cracks on the front of the keel
> using gflex and then additionally I?m resealing the washers around the keel
> bolts.
> >>>
> >>> However, my real questions start with what I?m still chasing. I seem
> to have a fresh water coming in during storms. It?s been about three months
> that it?s been on the hard so the accumulation of about 2 to 3 gallons is a
> bit concerning. I think I?ve traced a leak down to at least one window. (
> the one in the cockpit starboard side facing aft). However that can?t be
> the only source. Anyone have any ideas to start tracing? I?m wondering if
> the lockers are leaking to the bilge. Any thoughts to begin the hunt would
> be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> VR
> >>> Jacob
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 8
> >> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:01:01 -0700
> >> From: Greg Arnold <greg-arnold at gmx.com>
> >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com, c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID: <4f25c26f-d659-43db-9053-5369100db59d at gmx.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> On my boat water came down the inside of the mast. There was no drain
> hole at the base of the mast, so the water level rose inside the mast.?
> >> There is a tube inside the mast that the wires feed into.? Once the
> water level rose to the top of the tube, water went into the tube and ran
> down the wires into the bilge.
> >>
> >> Solution was to drill a drain hole.? Why they didn't do this at the
> factory is a mystery.
> >>
> >> 2005 #1054
> >> So Cal
> >>
> >>
> >>>> On 3/22/2024 5:27 PM, Jacob Lang via C320-list wrote:
> >>> I may regret starting this thread but I?m curious. While my boat is in
> the water I believe my keel bolts were slightly weeping. The boat is out on
> the hard now and I?m addressing the slight cracks on the front of the keel
> using gflex and then additionally I?m resealing the washers around the keel
> bolts.
> >>>
> >>> However, my real questions start with what I?m still chasing. I seem
> to have a fresh water coming in during storms. It?s been about three months
> that it?s been on the hard so the accumulation of about 2 to 3 gallons is a
> bit concerning. I think I?ve traced a leak down to at least one window. (
> the one in the cockpit starboard side facing aft). However that can?t be
> the only source. Anyone have any ideas to start tracing? I?m wondering if
> the lockers are leaking to the bilge. Any thoughts to begin the hunt would
> be appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> VR
> >>> Jacob
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 9
> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:03:07 +1100 (GMT+11:00)
> >> From: Stephen Cox <scox at timmin.com>
> >> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID: <c039d63f-9f93-488c-8c1c-fda9d8519e16 at timmin.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
> >>
> >> You would need to block the two engine room vents on the transom to
> make this idea work well.
> >>
> >> Stephen Cox
> >> Tegwen #1141
> >> ----------------------------------------
> >>
> >> 23 Mar 2024 12:26:19 Allan Field via C320-list
> >> <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>:
> >>
> >>> Jacob - I have never tried this strategy but others have told me that
> >>> it often works. What you do is replace the vertical part of the main
> >>> hatch with a piece of plywood and shut the horizontal part of the main
> >>> hatch.
> >>> Cut
> >>> a hole into the plywood just large enough to accept the working end of
> >>> a leaf blower. Push the working end through the hole, seal around the
> >>> hole with something like duct tape. With the leaf blower in the
> >>> cockpit, pressurize the interior of the boat with the blower. Have a
> >>> bucket of soapy water and pour that water over different fittings to
> >>> see if you get air bubbles (something like a paint brush may work
> >>> better than pouring?).
> >>> Air
> >>> bubbles = source of a leak. What I don't know is how long it would
> >>> take to pressurize the boat sufficiently to make this work. And the
> >>> underside of the fittings inside the boat would need to be open to the
> >>> pressurization.
> >>>
> >>> Leaks can be just awful to find. As I am sure you know, the leak can
> >>> be at the stem and the water runs to the stern before you see it! Hope
> >>> this helps!
> >>>
> >>> Allan S. Field
> >>> Sea Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808) Columbia, MD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:27?PM Jacob Lang via C320-list <
> >>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I may regret starting this thread but I?m curious. While my boat is in
> >>>> the
> >>>> water I believe my keel bolts were slightly weeping. The boat is out
> >>>> on the
> >>>> hard now and I?m addressing the slight cracks on the front of the keel
> >>>> using gflex and then additionally I?m resealing the washers around the
> >>>> keel
> >>>> bolts.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, my real questions start with what I?m still chasing. I seem
> >>>> to
> >>>> have a fresh water coming in during storms. It?s been about three
> >>>> months
> >>>> that it?s been on the hard so the accumulation of about 2 to 3 gallons
> >>>> is a
> >>>> bit concerning. I think I?ve traced a leak down to at least one
> >>>> window. (
> >>>> the one in the cockpit starboard side facing aft). However that can?t
> >>>> be
> >>>> the only source. Anyone have any ideas to start tracing? I?m wondering
> >>>> if
> >>>> the lockers are leaking to the bilge. Any thoughts to begin the hunt
> >>>> would
> >>>> be appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> VR
> >>>> Jacob
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 10
> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 02:06:36 +0000
> >> From: Joe Grande <joe_grande at msn.com>
> >> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>, "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com"
> >> <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <
> BL1PR11MB59782C7543B8CC03137DD5B6E1302 at BL1PR11MB5978.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
> >
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Jacob, if you are in the cockpit facing aft, the "starboard" hatch is
> on your LEFT! There is no right & left o your boat; only starboard and
> port, regardless of where you are facing.
> >> What's more relevant, does your bilge pump work?
> >>
> >> Joe Grande
> >> Whisper, #772
> >> Lake Union, Seattle
> >>
> >> Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
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> >> ________________________________
> >> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
> Jacob Lang via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 6:54:17 PM
> >> To: C320-List at catalina320.com <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>; c320-list at lists.catalina320.com <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >>
> >> When you say hatch, does this include the lockers? I don?t think I have
> any seals there.
> >>
> >> Jacob
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:52, Troy Dunn via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape the
> >>> base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
> >>>
> >>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
> >>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
> >>>
> >>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
> >>> dogs, the seals, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
> head
> >>> clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if there
> is
> >>> a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat during a
> deluge
> >>> and since these are all behind bulkheads and liners?.it would be very
> >>> difficult to spot.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
> >>>
> >>> Troy Dunn
> >>> Hull#514
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 11
> >> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 02:06:36 +0000
> >> From: Joe Grande <joe_grande at msn.com>
> >> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>, "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com"
> >> <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <
> BL1PR11MB59782C7543B8CC03137DD5B6E1302 at BL1PR11MB5978.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
> >
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >>
> >> Jacob, if you are in the cockpit facing aft, the "starboard" hatch is
> on your LEFT! There is no right & left o your boat; only starboard and
> port, regardless of where you are facing.
> >> What's more relevant, does your bilge pump work?
> >>
> >> Joe Grande
> >> Whisper, #772
> >> Lake Union, Seattle
> >>
> >> Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
> >> Get Outlook for Android<
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C7259714eeae64603dc3008dc4b486e33%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638468021686116683%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Q8ru6CvcBVOpepLELf40VdP3zsOs8pqFCGdgaeUJKVU%3D&reserved=0
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> >> ________________________________
> >> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
> Jacob Lang via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 6:54:17 PM
> >> To: C320-List at catalina320.com <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> >> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>; c320-list at lists.catalina320.com <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
> >>
> >> When you say hatch, does this include the lockers? I don?t think I have
> any seals there.
> >>
> >> Jacob
> >>
> >>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:52, Troy Dunn via C320-list <
> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape the
> >>> base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
> >>>
> >>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
> >>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
> >>>
> >>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
> >>> dogs, the seals, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
> head
> >>> clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if there
> is
> >>> a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat during a
> deluge
> >>> and since these are all behind bulkheads and liners?.it would be very
> >>> difficult to spot.
> >>>
> >>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
> >>>
> >>> Troy Dunn
> >>> Hull#514
> >>
> >> End of C320-list Digest, Vol 4610, Issue 3
> >> ******************************************
> >>
> >>
> >
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