[C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
ART HARDEN
artstree at aol.com
Sat Mar 23 15:30:30 PDT 2024
If you are talking galley sink the bottom of the sink is only a few inches from the waterline. Trying to add a shut off with access could be challenging.
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Art Harden
Catalina 320 "Tortuga" E-62
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> On Mar 23, 2024, at 12:43 PM, Allan Field via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> Sink drain thruhull above the waterline? Seems like a great entry point for
> bugs, spiders and other nasties to enter your boat!
>
> Allan S. Field
>
>
>> On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 12:26 PM Jacob Lang via C320-list <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>
>> May have mis spoke. I have some below the water line repairs to do with
>> 5200 still. Like my sink thru hull may be leaking and I’m debating
>> repurposing that one anyways. Debating just pushing the sink to drain above
>> the water line. Tracking 4200 for other stuff around the inside of the
>> boat.
>>
>> Jacob
>> Study hull#305
>>
>>> On Mar 23, 2024, at 11:16, Steve Weinstein via C320-list <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jack and Joe beat me to the punch. It's always been my understanding
>> that 5200 is primarily for applications below the water line, mainly
>> thru-hull fittings. Stick with 4200. Don't be tempted to use silicone
>> sealers, like the stuff they sell for fixing tile leaks in bathrooms. It
>> makes a mess and is hard to clean up or remove later. Best if you're
>> rebedding things is butyl tap, IMHO.
>>> Steve WeinsteinVega #722
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 10:55:51 AM EDT, Joe Grande via
>> C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, Jack! I was about to post the same cautionary note about
>> 5200. It's intended to be permanent and lacks the flexibility of 4000.
>>> I also want to thank our web/list masters for their service to the
>> membership!
>>> Joe Grande
>>> Whisper #772
>>>
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>>> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
>> Jack Brennan via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 7:42:18 AM
>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Cc: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan333 at outlook.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>
>>> Be careful with 5200. It is a permanent bond. No going back. 4200 or a
>> similar adhesive is better.
>>>
>>> With the ports, check whether it is the gasket or the caulking around
>> the frame. I solved a big leak with butyl tape around the frame.
>>>
>>> Jack Brennan
>>> Sonas, 1898 Catalina 320
>>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Jacob Lang via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>> Date: 3/23/24 10:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>
>>> Rainey day was today for sure. Was able to see that pretty much all my
>> porthole windows are leaking and seem to have a more serious leak from
>> around the propane container. So looks like butyl tape, 4600, and 5200 are
>> in my future. Also, I may have a leak from one of the standing rigging
>> mounts just above the starboard seating area. Appreciate all the ideas, was
>> able to look closely in a lot of the places mentioned above and confirm or
>> discount areas that need attention.
>>>
>>> Jacob
>>> STUDY HULL #305
>>>
>>>> On Mar 23, 2024, at 09:57, Bruce Heyman via C320-list <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've had some success using dry erase marker on the inside gelcoat.
>> Wherever water passes over the dry erase marker it dissolves and goes away.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce Heyman
>>>> Somerset #671 San Pedro (LA) California
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of
>> Scott Westwood via C320-list
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2024 3:33 AM
>>>> To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> Cc: Scott Westwood <scottwestwood at bellsouth.net>
>>>> Subject: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>>
>>>> I also agree with the dry paper towel method. Place them anywhere you
>> might think you have a leak. I have also had leaks at the main cabin
>> portals (Still trying to solve a stubborn one of those with new gasket and
>> o-rings). Main cabin hatch (Now solved with new gasket and smoked plastic
>> that was cracked). Emergency tiller cover (Solved with bytle ). Pedestal
>> (Pedestal currently removed and off getting re-coated) let you know on that
>> one. Had a slow leak in the aft cabin slow dripping down aft cabin back
>> wall. I also placed paper towels in Port aft locker just front of the
>> rudder trunk before it goes under the aft cabin. That covers the whole
>> backside. Also agree try being inside in a good solid rain. Good luck.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scott Westwood scottwestwood at bellsouth.net C (919)- 819-9794
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> 1. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Jack Brennan)
>>>> 2. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Troy Dunn)
>>>> 3. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Troy Dunn)
>>>> 4. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Jacob Lang)
>>>> 5. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Jacob Lang)
>>>> 6. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Jacob Lang)
>>>> 7. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Greg Arnold)
>>>> 8. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Greg Arnold)
>>>> 9. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Stephen Cox)
>>>> 10. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Joe Grande)
>>>> 11. Re: Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo (Joe Grande)
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>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 01:33:00 +0000
>>>> From: Jack Brennan <jackbrennan333 at outlook.com>
>>>> To: "C320-List at Catalina320.com" <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
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>>>> Boats leak. That?s just a fact. A couple of gallons over a couple of
>> months is not much.
>>>>
>>>> That said, the possibilities are endless. Pinholes in the hatch
>> caulking. A poorly closed port. Stanchions. The genoa tracks. The access
>> hatch on the cockpit floor for the emergency tiller. A water line. A drain
>> leak. The water heater. You can drive yourself crazy.
>>>>
>>>> Staying on the boat in a storm is a good idea. You can also mark up the
>> bilge with chalk or place paper towels in various locations around the
>> bilge. You want to follow the trail of the fresh water. That narrows down
>> where the water originates.
>>>>
>>>> On my 1998 320, water from the center aft will pool around the stuffing
>> box before draining through a hose into the main bilge. Starboard aft and
>> midship will drain into the bilge from near the head. Port side will flow
>> under the galley and into the bilge.
>>>>
>>>> Anything forward will be detected at the removable hatch on the floor
>> near the V berth.
>>>>
>>>> Any leaks from hatches, ports, genoa tracks, etc., will be immediately
>> obvious when it is raining. You can also use a hose on a nice day.
>>>>
>>>> Jack Brennan
>>>> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
>>>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>>>>
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:49:47 -0400
>>>> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>> Cc: Allan Field <allanfield47 at gmail.com>,
>>>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
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>>>> If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape the
>> base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
>>>>
>>>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
>>>>
>>>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
>> dogs, the seals, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
>> head clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if there
>> is a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat during a
>> deluge and since these are all behind bulkheads and liners?.it would be
>> very difficult to spot.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
>>>>
>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>> Hull#514
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:49:47 -0400
>>>> From: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>> Cc: Allan Field <allanfield47 at gmail.com>,
>>>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
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>>>> If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape the
>> base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
>>>>
>>>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
>>>>
>>>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
>> dogs, the seals, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
>> head clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if there
>> is a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat during a
>> deluge and since these are all behind bulkheads and liners?.it would be
>> very difficult to spot.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
>>>>
>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>> Hull#514
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
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>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:52:54 -0400
>>>> From: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>> Message-ID: <4A8D075A-9E3A-4259-9708-C41D33C45FB5 at gmail.com>
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>>>> Thank you for all the info, this is exactly what I was looking for.
>> Just some common areas to look. Tomorrow in MD we are suppose to have rain
>> all day, so I?ll be on the hunt.
>>>>
>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:42, Jack Brennan via C320-list <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?Boats leak. That?s just a fact. A couple of gallons over a couple of
>> months is not much.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said, the possibilities are endless. Pinholes in the hatch
>> caulking. A poorly closed port. Stanchions. The genoa tracks. The access
>> hatch on the cockpit floor for the emergency tiller. A water line. A drain
>> leak. The water heater. You can drive yourself crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Staying on the boat in a storm is a good idea. You can also mark up
>> the bilge with chalk or place paper towels in various locations around the
>> bilge. You want to follow the trail of the fresh water. That narrows down
>> where the water originates.
>>>>>
>>>>> On my 1998 320, water from the center aft will pool around the
>> stuffing box before draining through a hose into the main bilge. Starboard
>> aft and midship will drain into the bilge from near the head. Port side
>> will flow under the galley and into the bilge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anything forward will be detected at the removable hatch on the floor
>> near the V berth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any leaks from hatches, ports, genoa tracks, etc., will be
>> immediately obvious when it is raining. You can also use a hose on a nice
>> day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jack Brennan
>>>>> Sonas, 1998 Catalina 320
>>>>> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:54:17 -0400
>>>> From: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>> Cc: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>,
>>>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>> Message-ID: <AB013422-E141-4B63-89E4-F335004148BF at gmail.com>
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>>>>
>>>> When you say hatch, does this include the lockers? I don?t think I have
>> any seals there.
>>>>
>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:52, Troy Dunn via C320-list <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape
>>>>> the base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
>>>>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
>>>>> dogs, the seals, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
>>>>> head clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if
>>>>> there is a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat
>>>>> during a deluge and since these are all behind bulkheads and
>>>>> liners?.it would be very difficult to spot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>>> Hull#514
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 6
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 21:54:17 -0400
>>>> From: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>>>> Cc: Troy Dunn <troutwarrior at gmail.com>,
>>>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>> Message-ID: <AB013422-E141-4B63-89E4-F335004148BF at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>>
>>>> When you say hatch, does this include the lockers? I don?t think I have
>> any seals there.
>>>>
>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:52, Troy Dunn via C320-list <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape
>>>>> the base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
>>>>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
>>>>> dogs, the seals, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
>>>>> head clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if
>>>>> there is a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat
>>>>> during a deluge and since these are all behind bulkheads and
>>>>> liners?.it would be very difficult to spot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>>> Hull#514
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 7
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:01:01 -0700
>>>> From: Greg Arnold <greg-arnold at gmx.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com, c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>> Message-ID: <4f25c26f-d659-43db-9053-5369100db59d at gmx.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>> On my boat water came down the inside of the mast. There was no drain
>> hole at the base of the mast, so the water level rose inside the mast.?
>>>> There is a tube inside the mast that the wires feed into.? Once the
>> water level rose to the top of the tube, water went into the tube and ran
>> down the wires into the bilge.
>>>>
>>>> Solution was to drill a drain hole.? Why they didn't do this at the
>> factory is a mystery.
>>>>
>>>> 2005 #1054
>>>> So Cal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/22/2024 5:27 PM, Jacob Lang via C320-list wrote:
>>>>> I may regret starting this thread but I?m curious. While my boat is in
>> the water I believe my keel bolts were slightly weeping. The boat is out on
>> the hard now and I?m addressing the slight cracks on the front of the keel
>> using gflex and then additionally I?m resealing the washers around the keel
>> bolts.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, my real questions start with what I?m still chasing. I seem
>> to have a fresh water coming in during storms. It?s been about three months
>> that it?s been on the hard so the accumulation of about 2 to 3 gallons is a
>> bit concerning. I think I?ve traced a leak down to at least one window. (
>> the one in the cockpit starboard side facing aft). However that can?t be
>> the only source. Anyone have any ideas to start tracing? I?m wondering if
>> the lockers are leaking to the bilge. Any thoughts to begin the hunt would
>> be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> VR
>>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 8
>>>> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:01:01 -0700
>>>> From: Greg Arnold <greg-arnold at gmx.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com, c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>> Message-ID: <4f25c26f-d659-43db-9053-5369100db59d at gmx.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>> On my boat water came down the inside of the mast. There was no drain
>> hole at the base of the mast, so the water level rose inside the mast.?
>>>> There is a tube inside the mast that the wires feed into.? Once the
>> water level rose to the top of the tube, water went into the tube and ran
>> down the wires into the bilge.
>>>>
>>>> Solution was to drill a drain hole.? Why they didn't do this at the
>> factory is a mystery.
>>>>
>>>> 2005 #1054
>>>> So Cal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/22/2024 5:27 PM, Jacob Lang via C320-list wrote:
>>>>> I may regret starting this thread but I?m curious. While my boat is in
>> the water I believe my keel bolts were slightly weeping. The boat is out on
>> the hard now and I?m addressing the slight cracks on the front of the keel
>> using gflex and then additionally I?m resealing the washers around the keel
>> bolts.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, my real questions start with what I?m still chasing. I seem
>> to have a fresh water coming in during storms. It?s been about three months
>> that it?s been on the hard so the accumulation of about 2 to 3 gallons is a
>> bit concerning. I think I?ve traced a leak down to at least one window. (
>> the one in the cockpit starboard side facing aft). However that can?t be
>> the only source. Anyone have any ideas to start tracing? I?m wondering if
>> the lockers are leaking to the bilge. Any thoughts to begin the hunt would
>> be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> VR
>>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 9
>>>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 13:03:07 +1100 (GMT+11:00)
>>>> From: Stephen Cox <scox at timmin.com>
>>>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>> Message-ID: <c039d63f-9f93-488c-8c1c-fda9d8519e16 at timmin.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>> You would need to block the two engine room vents on the transom to
>> make this idea work well.
>>>>
>>>> Stephen Cox
>>>> Tegwen #1141
>>>> ----------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> 23 Mar 2024 12:26:19 Allan Field via C320-list
>>>> <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Jacob - I have never tried this strategy but others have told me that
>>>>> it often works. What you do is replace the vertical part of the main
>>>>> hatch with a piece of plywood and shut the horizontal part of the main
>>>>> hatch.
>>>>> Cut
>>>>> a hole into the plywood just large enough to accept the working end of
>>>>> a leaf blower. Push the working end through the hole, seal around the
>>>>> hole with something like duct tape. With the leaf blower in the
>>>>> cockpit, pressurize the interior of the boat with the blower. Have a
>>>>> bucket of soapy water and pour that water over different fittings to
>>>>> see if you get air bubbles (something like a paint brush may work
>>>>> better than pouring?).
>>>>> Air
>>>>> bubbles = source of a leak. What I don't know is how long it would
>>>>> take to pressurize the boat sufficiently to make this work. And the
>>>>> underside of the fittings inside the boat would need to be open to the
>>>>> pressurization.
>>>>>
>>>>> Leaks can be just awful to find. As I am sure you know, the leak can
>>>>> be at the stem and the water runs to the stern before you see it! Hope
>>>>> this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>>> Sea Shadow - C387, #103 (formerly C320, #808) Columbia, MD
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 8:27?PM Jacob Lang via C320-list <
>>>>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I may regret starting this thread but I?m curious. While my boat is in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> water I believe my keel bolts were slightly weeping. The boat is out
>>>>>> on the
>>>>>> hard now and I?m addressing the slight cracks on the front of the keel
>>>>>> using gflex and then additionally I?m resealing the washers around the
>>>>>> keel
>>>>>> bolts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, my real questions start with what I?m still chasing. I seem
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> have a fresh water coming in during storms. It?s been about three
>>>>>> months
>>>>>> that it?s been on the hard so the accumulation of about 2 to 3 gallons
>>>>>> is a
>>>>>> bit concerning. I think I?ve traced a leak down to at least one
>>>>>> window. (
>>>>>> the one in the cockpit starboard side facing aft). However that can?t
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> the only source. Anyone have any ideas to start tracing? I?m wondering
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> the lockers are leaking to the bilge. Any thoughts to begin the hunt
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> VR
>>>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 10
>>>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 02:06:36 +0000
>>>> From: Joe Grande <joe_grande at msn.com>
>>>> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>>> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>, "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com"
>>>> <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <
>> BL1PR11MB59782C7543B8CC03137DD5B6E1302 at BL1PR11MB5978.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>> Jacob, if you are in the cockpit facing aft, the "starboard" hatch is
>> on your LEFT! There is no right & left o your boat; only starboard and
>> port, regardless of where you are facing.
>>>> What's more relevant, does your bilge pump work?
>>>>
>>>> Joe Grande
>>>> Whisper, #772
>>>> Lake Union, Seattle
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
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>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
>> Jacob Lang via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 6:54:17 PM
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>>> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>; c320-list at lists.catalina320.com <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>>
>>>> When you say hatch, does this include the lockers? I don?t think I have
>> any seals there.
>>>>
>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:52, Troy Dunn via C320-list <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape the
>>>>> base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
>>>>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
>>>>> dogs, the seals, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
>> head
>>>>> clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if there
>> is
>>>>> a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat during a
>> deluge
>>>>> and since these are all behind bulkheads and liners?.it would be very
>>>>> difficult to spot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>>> Hull#514
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 11
>>>> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 02:06:36 +0000
>>>> From: Joe Grande <joe_grande at msn.com>
>>>> To: "C320-List at catalina320.com" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>>> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>, "c320-list at lists.catalina320.com"
>>>> <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <
>> BL1PR11MB59782C7543B8CC03137DD5B6E1302 at BL1PR11MB5978.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>> Jacob, if you are in the cockpit facing aft, the "starboard" hatch is
>> on your LEFT! There is no right & left o your boat; only starboard and
>> port, regardless of where you are facing.
>>>> What's more relevant, does your bilge pump work?
>>>>
>>>> Joe Grande
>>>> Whisper, #772
>>>> Lake Union, Seattle
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
>>>> Get Outlook for Android<
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FAAb9ysg&data=05%7C02%7C%7C7259714eeae64603dc3008dc4b486e33%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638468021686116683%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=Q8ru6CvcBVOpepLELf40VdP3zsOs8pqFCGdgaeUJKVU%3D&reserved=0
>> <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: C320-list <c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
>> Jacob Lang via C320-list <c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2024 6:54:17 PM
>>>> To: C320-List at catalina320.com <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>>>> Cc: Jacob Lang <jjlang94 at gmail.com>; c320-list at lists.catalina320.com <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Chasing Leaks, yes starting that convo
>>>>
>>>> When you say hatch, does this include the lockers? I don?t think I have
>> any seals there.
>>>>
>>>> Jacob
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2024, at 21:52, Troy Dunn via C320-list <
>> c320-list at lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ?If the seal fails, the mast base can leak. I know some folks tape the
>>>>> base over the winter while hauled out. Probably not a bad tactic.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any original hatch seals on a hull as old as yours are shot. If they
>>>>> don?t seal well in the summer they will leak like crazy in the winter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Opening portlights on the saloon are notorious for leaking through the
>>>>> dogs, the seals, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try to see if your deck fills are still bedded well, and of course the
>> head
>>>>> clean out. These ports are close enough to the toe rail that if there
>> is
>>>>> a leak path water will literally be rushing into the boat during a
>> deluge
>>>>> and since these are all behind bulkheads and liners?.it would be very
>>>>> difficult to spot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck. Leaks can be a real bear to track down,
>>>>>
>>>>> Troy Dunn
>>>>> Hull#514
>>>>
>>>> End of C320-list Digest, Vol 4610, Issue 3
>>>> ******************************************
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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