[C320-list] Managing List Digest Information
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How do you get the digests changed from one summary each week (200 plus pages) and back to getting a daily one. I have tried on the site and also written to the webmaster and have had no success and have heard nothing
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
(Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
2. Re: Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod (Richard A. Walker)
3. Re: Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod (McCullough, Kirk)
4. Re: Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod (McCullough, Kirk)
5. Re: Barnegat Bay (SailorLew at aol.com)
6. Re: Solar Power (T. Scott Thompson)
7. Re: Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod (Steve Magennis)
8. Re: Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod (Chris Burti)
9. Re: Solar Power (Jeffrey Hare)
10. Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (Irv Grunes)
11. Re: Transmission/Teleflex cable woes (Russell Monaco)
12. Re: Head valves-- OK leave open? (Joe Barrett)
13. Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (crashley at gte.net)
14. Re: Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod (McCullough, Kirk)
15. Re: Transmission/Teleflex cable woes (McCullough, Kirk)
16. Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
17. Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (Chris Burti)
18. Re: Transmission/Teleflex cable woes (Russell Monaco)
19. Remove me from the mailing list please (Gary Minnis)
20. Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
21. Re: Transmission/Teleflex cable woes (Mtimney at aol.com)
22. Re: Transmission/Teleflex cable woes (Richard A. Walker)
23. FW: Re: Zinc Saver (Karl Mielenhausen _/) )
24. FW: Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (Karl Mielenhausen _/) )
25. Re: Solar Power (Timothy Grennan)
26. Re: Head valves-- OK leave open? (John Van Vessem)
27. Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (John Van Vessem)
28. Bedding (Tim)
29. Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Charles Greenwell)
30. Mark Yeager's Loos tensions (Chris Holt)
31. Re: Taking on water (David Nolte)
32. (no subject) (David Nolte)
33. Waeco/Alder Barbour Cold Machine (Jeff Church)
34. List reboot test... Ignore please. (Jeffrey Hare)
35. List Test (Jeffrey Hare)
36. List Test (Jeffrey Hare)
37. List Test (Jeffrey Hare)
38. Whisker Pole Costs (Irv Grunes)
39. Alder Barbour Cold Machine (Jeff Church)
40. Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (esquirecatering at rcn.com)
41. Re: Head valves-- OK leave open? (John Van Vessem)
42. Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (crashley at gte.net)
43. Test mail from support (Onsmart-Smita)
44. Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
45. Re: (no subject) (Nigel Price)
46. Re: Mark Yeager's Loos tensions (Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT))
47. Re: Bedding (Barry Fahrer)
48. Re: Transmission/Teleflex cable woes (Russell Monaco)
49. Re: Whisker Pole Costs (Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT))
50. Re: (no subject) (jonvez at comcast.net)
51. Re: FW: Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (Chris Burti)
52. Re: Bedding (Steve Magennis)
53. Re: (no subject) (Jeffrey Hare)
54. Re: (no subject) (Chris Burti)
55. Re: Bedding (Jeffrey Hare)
56. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Dave Sparks)
57. Re: Stuffing box drips (Chris Burti)
58. Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Charles Greenwell)
59. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
(Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
60. Re: (no subject) (Bill Culbertson)
61. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (David Cardoza)
62. Re: Bedding (Guy Henry)
63. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Quentin Murphy)
64. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Peter Clancy)
65. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Pat Moriarty)
66. Re: Bedding (Steve Magennis)
67. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Steve Magennis)
68. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (frpoint at earthlink.net)
69. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Chris Burti)
70. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (David Cardoza)
71. Lamp for deck light (David Cardoza)
72. Re: Stuffing box drips (McCullough, Kirk)
73. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (McCullough, Kirk)
74. Re: FW: Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents. (McCullough, Kirk)
75. Re: down wind in light air (Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT))
76. Re: down wind in light air (Richard A. Walker)
77. Masthead light bulb (Ben Waltuck)
78. Re: down wind in light air (Chris Holt)
79. Re: down wind in light air (Ben Waltuck)
80. Re: down wind in light air (Chris Holt)
81. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (BAdams3491 at aol.com)
82. Re: down wind in light air (Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT))
83. Re: down wind in light air (Chris Holt)
84. Re: down wind in light air (Richard A. Walker)
85. Re: down wind in light air (Jeffrey Hare)
86. Re: Bedding (esquirecatering at rcn.com)
87. Re: down wind in light air (esquirecatering at rcn.com)
88. Polar Charts (Jeffrey Hare)
89. anchors (Dave Sparks)
90. Re: Polar Charts (Larry Barr)
91. Re: Polar Charts (Jean-Pierre Salzmann)
92. Re: Polar Charts (Richard A. Walker)
93. Re: Polar Charts (Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT))
94. Re: Polar Charts (crashley at gte.net)
95. Re: Polar Charts (Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT))
96. Re: Polar Charts (Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com)
97. Water in bilge and keel bolts (MICHAEL COLE)
98. Re: Alder Barbour Cold Machine (Jeff Church)
99. Re: (no subject) (Allan Field)
100. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (crashley at gte.net)
101. Jibe Preventer (Karl Mielenhausen _/) )
102. Re: Jibe Preventer (Davis, Stanley D. (SHB))
103. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Jeff Church)
104. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (cyrace at comcast.net)
105. Re: Polar Charts (Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT))
106. Re: Alder Barbour Cold Machine (McCullough, Kirk)
107. Re: Water in bilge and keel bolts (McCullough, Kirk)
108. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (Jeff Church)
109. Re: Jibe Preventer (McCullough, Kirk)
110. Re: Alder Barbour Cold Machine (Jeff Church)
111. Re: Water in bilge and keel bolts (Quentin Murphy)
112. Re: Water in bilge and keel bolts (David Cardoza)
113. Leaking Galley faucet (Tony Kalish)
114. Re: (no subject) (Scott Thompson)
115. Re: Leaking Galley faucet (Richard A. Walker)
116. Re: Lamp for deck light (Allan Field)
117. Re: Alder Barbour Cold Machine (McCullough, Kirk)
118. Re: Leaking Galley faucet (Tony Kalish)
119. Re: Whisker Pole Costs (Allan Field)
120. Re: Whisker Pole Costs (amshd2 at aol.com)
121. Dingy Davits (Richard A. Walker)
122. Re: Alder Barbour Cold Machine (Jeff Church)
123. Re: Bedding (PbyrdC320 at aol.com)
124. Re: Alder Barbour Cold Machine (Peter Clancy)
125. Re: Polar Charts (Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT))
126. Re: anchors (Dave Sparks)
127. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (crashley at gte.net)
128. Re: mast (John Van Vessem)
129. Re: Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts (John Van Vessem)
130. Re: Head valves-- OK leave open? (Dave)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 14:06:18 -0700
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Seward....
--------------------------
Regards,
OD
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Sent: 05/29/2006 02:04 PM
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Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the engine controls? I
need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip to the boat until
the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins engine.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 14:07:59 -0700
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
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Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a voltmeter? It may be
the connection.
http://www.seawardproducts.com
Cheers,
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of McCullough, Kirk
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
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Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the engine controls? I
need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip to the boat until
the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins engine.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:12:26 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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That's it, thank you
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
Seward....
--------------------------
Regards,
OD
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Sent: 05/29/2006 02:04 PM
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Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the engine controls? I
need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip to the boat until
the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins engine.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 17:13:47 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
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Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge still works its just
that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and it gets moisture in
all the time. I want to replace it.
Kirk L. McCullough
Analytical Sales Mgr
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Richard A.
Walker
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a voltmeter? It may
be
the connection.
http://www.seawardproducts.com
Cheers,
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of McCullough, Kirk
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
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Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the engine controls? I
need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip to the boat until
the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins engine.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 20:06:09 EDT
From: SailorLew at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Barnegat Bay
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My wife & I currently live & sail on the south shore of Long Island. I will
be retiring in 2 months & am thinking of relocating to Lakewood, New Jersey.
This move of course would depend on the sailing & availability of dockage in the
nearby area. If anyone would be gracious enough to offer us a day sail to
experience Barnegat Bay it would be greatly appreciated. Lunch of course would be
on us.
Thanks
Lew Staub
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 20:35:51 -0400
From: "T. Scott Thompson" <sthompson at toad.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Solar Power
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Which one?
Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com wrote:
> The book by Nigel Calder is extremely informative on this subject...
>
> cuba libre 2
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> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Solar Power
>
> I keep my boat on a mooring and have not been happy with battery
> performance and so have been wondering the same thing. What we need
> is for one of the electrically savvy to design the ideal setup for
> people who rarely "plug in" but still want to use their house banks
> for things like refrigeration, lights, etc.
>
> Tim wrote:
>> Any good experiences installing a solar panel? Going to be mooring my
>> 320 and want to make sure the batteries stay fresh or is there a
>> better solution? thnx !
>>
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 05:24:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
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I can't guarantee it, but all the other electrical control stuff on the
boat is from Seaward Products, and Seaward Products makes the control
panels for the older boats (C-30, C-34, and C-36 as a minimum), so they
probably make (or supply) the instruments for our boat. Give them a
call. From all the other comments I have heard about Seaward Products,
they are very responsive.
Steve
Alchemist #909
--- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com> wrote:
> Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the engine controls?
> I
> need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip to the boat until
> the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins engine.
>
>
>
> Kirk L. McCullough
>
> Boomerang #124
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 05:24:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
actually vent...save your money, make sure your
instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
--- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
wrote:
> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
> still works its just
> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
> it gets moisture in
> all the time. I want to replace it.
>
> Kirk L. McCullough
> Analytical Sales Mgr
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard A.
> Walker
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
> voltmeter? It may
> be
> the connection.
>
> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of McCullough, Kirk
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
> Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the
> engine controls? I
> need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip
> to the boat until
> the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins
> engine.
>
>
>
> Kirk L. McCullough
>
> Boomerang #124
>
>
>
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Chris Burti
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Catalina 320, #867,
Farmville, NC
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:10:49 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Solar Power
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Hi Guys,
Finding good flexible solar panels right now is a chore.
First, for the bad news... Flexible solar panels are very hard to find,
and many are not in production at all this year. Factories re-tooled to
produce volume high end non-flexible panels. The ones you do find are
probably way overpriced. Rigid solar panels are harder to store and easier
to break.
I paid somewhere around $95 + shipping for a UniSolar (USF/FLX11W) for mine
3 years ago. Price has probably doubled since then.
The panel I recommend is either the UniSolar USF11 (11Watt) or USF32
(32Watt) flexible panel. It lays smoothly over your Dodger, deck or bimini
top and provides a great boost. When you don't need it, it'll slide right
under the dinette settee, or the port side settee cushion. Has large
grommets in the corners to let you attach it in all sorts of ways.
They are very well built, can be walked/danced on and don't need any special
wiring to use. With the 32W version, you may want a small charge controller
to prevent overcharging if you leave it plugged in for weeks on end. The 11W
version doesn't need a controller.
-Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: 05/28/2006 09:09 AM
> To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Solar Power
>
> I keep my boat on a mooring and have not been happy with battery
> performance and so have been wondering the same thing. What we need
> is for one of the electrically savvy to design the ideal setup for
> people who rarely "plug in" but still want to use their house banks
> for things like refrigeration, lights, etc.
>
> Tim wrote:
>> Any good experiences installing a solar panel? Going to be mooring my
>> 320 and want to make sure the batteries stay fresh or is there a
>> better solution? thnx !
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------
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>> Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:52:47 -0400
From: "Irv Grunes" <igrunes at comcast.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <BPEBLLKNAMIALJELAJDPEEIICPAA.igrunes at comcast.net>
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Does anyone know with what hull number the weep holes were added?
Or where , what size, and how many?
Or where to look for them.
We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.
I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.
Irv Grunes
Isle of Wight #851
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
actually vent...save your money, make sure your
instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
--- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
wrote:
> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
> still works its just
> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
> it gets moisture in
> all the time. I want to replace it.
>
> Kirk L. McCullough
> Analytical Sales Mgr
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard A.
> Walker
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
> voltmeter? It may
> be
> the connection.
>
> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of McCullough, Kirk
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
> Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the
> engine controls? I
> need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip
> to the boat until
> the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins
> engine.
>
>
>
> Kirk L. McCullough
>
> Boomerang #124
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 05:49:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Russell Monaco <russgm at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
To: argates2nd at earthlink.net, C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <20060530124900.38850.qmail at web32804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
thanks for the compass heads up, BUT, doesn't anyone have any tips on this cable I need to replace? what size? where to get it? anything?
russ
Arthur Gates <argates2nd at earthlink.net> wrote: Russ,
In 1995 #182, the 4 bolts holding the compass base to the aluminum binacle
were a problem. They had been locktighted on the bottom threads!
Two came off with a large screw driver plus a large wrench on the square
driver shaft.
The other two required cutting off with a dremel tool once the bolt's
sloted head was stripped.
Edson sent me four 3.5" specially treated replacment bolts for $45 via
overnight del'y which turned out to take 3 days to arrive. Then it turned
out to take 4" bolts which they didn't have but the local hdwe did in ss,
so I used anti-seeze grease on the threads. I ret'd the 4 for credit to
Edson, but they would not credit the freight.
I have no input on the cables.
Rollie
> [Original Message]
> From: Russell Monaco
> To: C320-List
> Date: 5/29/2006 2:39:57 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
>
> Hi all-
> I snapped the end of the "teleflex" cable this week(the cable from the
helm to the transmission shift lever on the the transmission), while away
and had to do real Magiver job to get the helm to control the transmission,
but now i need a new cable, does anyone know exactly what type and length
cable I need..later I will send the pix of what I came up with to "deal
with thing" temporarily...also, anyone know what it will entail getting the
compass off, any tips, i know it has been discussed,,,
> russ monaco
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:01:33 -0400
From: "Joe Barrett" <joe at dolphinmortgage.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head valves-- OK leave open?
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <058301c683f1$8f27e030$7101a8c0 at Joe>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi John, if the bowl is filling up while you are away it is probably the
joker valve beneath the head pump needs replacing. It is about $9 at Wet
Marine and usually in stock.
Joe Barrett
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of John Van Vessem
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:11 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head valves-- OK leave open?
Len,
I leave the valves open, have not had a problem in the 5 years I've owned
the boat. However I have found that if the bowl is empty when I leave, it
will fill up when I return the next week. So what I do now is fill the
bowl up with fresh water before leaving. I believe the top of the bowl is
above the water line so water can not overflow past that. Unless of course
you have other problems that would cause the water line to raise.
John (Sojourn 645)
belairlk at aim.com wrote:
Catalina recommends closing the head seawater intake valve and head
discharge to sea valves when leaving boat. Some owners say it's OK to just
leave them open, as boat won't flood. Any comments or experience to indicate
they should be closed?
Len Krane
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 07:15:59 -0700
From: <crashley at gte.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000701c683f3$93907f90$6400a8c0 at Desktop1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original
I have the same issue with moisture sometimes getting into the engine pod
and causing the instruments to fog up. I'd like to know where the moisture
comes from as this occurs even when it hasn't rained (it hardly ever does in
So Cal) and the wheel stand is always covered with the canvas when not in
use. I'll be interested in the answer to your question.
CRA
Rosebud #882
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irv Grunes" <igrunes at comcast.net>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
> Does anyone know with what hull number the weep holes were added?
> Or where , what size, and how many?
> Or where to look for them.
> We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.
> I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.
> Irv Grunes
> Isle of Wight #851
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
>
>
> I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
> just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
> actually vent...save your money, make sure your
> instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
> dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
> according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
>
> --- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
>> still works its just
>> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
>> it gets moisture in
>> all the time. I want to replace it.
>>
>> Kirk L. McCullough
>> Analytical Sales Mgr
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard A.
>> Walker
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
>> To: 'C320-List'
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
>> voltmeter? It may
>> be
>> the connection.
>>
>> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of McCullough, Kirk
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the
>> engine controls? I
>> need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip
>> to the boat until
>> the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins
>> engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kirk L. McCullough
>>
>> Boomerang #124
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:47:01 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Thanks for your input.
Maybe I need to simplify this. The gauge is broken; the bezel has parted
from the gauge case, leaving a gap between the front of the gauge and
the engine pod panel; with the gauge internals open to the elements. The
weeping holes won't save this gauge. It needs to be replaced.
I have contacted Seward and they have been most helpful.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:24 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
actually vent...save your money, make sure your
instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
--- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
wrote:
> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
> still works its just
> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
> it gets moisture in
> all the time. I want to replace it.
>
> Kirk L. McCullough
> Analytical Sales Mgr
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard A.
> Walker
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
> voltmeter? It may
> be
> the connection.
>
> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of McCullough, Kirk
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
> Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the
> engine controls? I
> need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip
> to the boat until
> the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins
> engine.
>
>
>
> Kirk L. McCullough
>
> Boomerang #124
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:16:53 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I would contact the Catalina parts department, they can probably give
you a price and a part number for the cable, or at least point you in
the right direction.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Russell Monaco
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:49 AM
To: argates2nd at earthlink.net; C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
thanks for the compass heads up, BUT, doesn't anyone have any tips on
this cable I need to replace? what size? where to get it? anything?
russ
Arthur Gates <argates2nd at earthlink.net> wrote: Russ,
In 1995 #182, the 4 bolts holding the compass base to the aluminum
binacle
were a problem. They had been locktighted on the bottom threads!
Two came off with a large screw driver plus a large wrench on the square
driver shaft.
The other two required cutting off with a dremel tool once the bolt's
sloted head was stripped.
Edson sent me four 3.5" specially treated replacment bolts for $45 via
overnight del'y which turned out to take 3 days to arrive. Then it
turned
out to take 4" bolts which they didn't have but the local hdwe did in
ss,
so I used anti-seeze grease on the threads. I ret'd the 4 for credit to
Edson, but they would not credit the freight.
I have no input on the cables.
Rollie
> [Original Message]
> From: Russell Monaco
> To: C320-List
> Date: 5/29/2006 2:39:57 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
>
> Hi all-
> I snapped the end of the "teleflex" cable this week(the cable from the
helm to the transmission shift lever on the the transmission), while
away
and had to do real Magiver job to get the helm to control the
transmission,
but now i need a new cable, does anyone know exactly what type and
length
cable I need..later I will send the pix of what I came up with to "deal
with thing" temporarily...also, anyone know what it will entail getting
the
compass off, any tips, i know it has been discussed,,,
> russ monaco
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:36:15 -0700
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Weep holes or not, you will always have condensation that inhibit your
ability to see your instruments. Weep holes are for water runoff, it will
not prevent condensation or 'fogging up' of the instruments....
cuba libre 2
------Original Message------
From: Irv Grunes
To: Catalina 320 List
ReplyTo: Catalina 320 List
Sent: May 30, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
[Sent by: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com ]
Does anyone know with what hull number the weep holes were added?
Or where , what size, and how many?
Or where to look for them.
We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.
I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.
Irv Grunes
Isle of Wight #851
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
actually vent...save your money, make sure your
instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
--- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
wrote:
> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
> still works its just
> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
> it gets moisture in
> all the time. I want to replace it.
>
> Kirk L. McCullough
> Analytical Sales Mgr
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of Richard A.
> Walker
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
> To: 'C320-List'
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
> voltmeter? It may
> be
> the connection.
>
> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
> Of McCullough, Kirk
> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
> Does anyone recall off hand the
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Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:42:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
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Two holes in the bottom, approximately 3/16" in dia,
and approx. 12" apart.
--- Irv Grunes <igrunes at comcast.net> wrote:
> Does anyone know with what hull number the weep
> holes were added?
> Or where , what size, and how many?
> Or where to look for them.
> We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.
> I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.
> Irv Grunes
> Isle of Wight #851
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf
> Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> Controls Pod
>
>
> I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
> just last week. They are not sealed instruments.
> They
> actually vent...save your money, make sure your
> instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
> dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
> according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
>
> --- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The
> gauge
> > still works its just
> > that the bezel is separating from the gauge body
> and
> > it gets moisture in
> > all the time. I want to replace it.
> >
> > Kirk L. McCullough
> > Analytical Sales Mgr
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of Richard A.
> > Walker
> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
> > To: 'C320-List'
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> > Controls Pod
> >
> > Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with
> a
> > voltmeter? It may
> > be
> > the connection.
> >
> > http://www.seawardproducts.com
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Dick Walker
> > C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> > 740 Olive Ave.
> > Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> > 619.435.8986
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> > [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of McCullough, Kirk
> > Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
> > To: C320-List
> > Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
> > Controls Pod
> >
> > Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of
> the
> > engine controls? I
> > need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a
> trip
> > to the boat until
> > the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins
> > engine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Kirk L. McCullough
> >
> > Boomerang #124
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867,
Farmville, NC
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:44:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Russell Monaco <russgm at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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thanks-
thats what I have been trying all day, but no response so far.
russ
"McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com> wrote:
I would contact the Catalina parts department, they can probably give
you a price and a part number for the cable, or at least point you in
the right direction.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Russell Monaco
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:49 AM
To: argates2nd at earthlink.net; C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
thanks for the compass heads up, BUT, doesn't anyone have any tips on
this cable I need to replace? what size? where to get it? anything?
russ
Arthur Gates wrote: Russ,
In 1995 #182, the 4 bolts holding the compass base to the aluminum
binacle
were a problem. They had been locktighted on the bottom threads!
Two came off with a large screw driver plus a large wrench on the square
driver shaft.
The other two required cutting off with a dremel tool once the bolt's
sloted head was stripped.
Edson sent me four 3.5" specially treated replacment bolts for $45 via
overnight del'y which turned out to take 3 days to arrive. Then it
turned
out to take 4" bolts which they didn't have but the local hdwe did in
ss,
so I used anti-seeze grease on the threads. I ret'd the 4 for credit to
Edson, but they would not credit the freight.
I have no input on the cables.
Rollie
> [Original Message]
> From: Russell Monaco
> To: C320-List
> Date: 5/29/2006 2:39:57 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
>
> Hi all-
> I snapped the end of the "teleflex" cable this week(the cable from the
helm to the transmission shift lever on the the transmission), while
away
and had to do real Magiver job to get the helm to control the
transmission,
but now i need a new cable, does anyone know exactly what type and
length
cable I need..later I will send the pix of what I came up with to "deal
with thing" temporarily...also, anyone know what it will entail getting
the
compass off, any tips, i know it has been discussed,,,
> russ monaco
>
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:31:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Minnis <boat_doctor at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Remove me from the mailing list please
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:08:48 -0700
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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That moisture comes from having your boat so close to the water. :)
It's not about rain but its about warm in the day, cool at night and then warm in the morning again...simply condensation
cuba libre 2
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OD
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----- Original Message -----
From: C320-List-bounces
Sent: 05/30/2006 07:15 AM
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
I have the same issue with moisture sometimes getting into the engine pod
and causing the instruments to fog up. I'd like to know where the moisture
comes from as this occurs even when it hasn't rained (it hardly ever does in
So Cal) and the wheel stand is always covered with the canvas when not in
use. I'll be interested in the answer to your question.
CRA
Rosebud #882
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irv Grunes" <igrunes at comcast.net>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
> Does anyone know with what hull number the weep holes were added?
> Or where , what size, and how many?
> Or where to look for them.
> We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.
> I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.
> Irv Grunes
> Isle of Wight #851
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
>
>
> I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
> just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
> actually vent...save your money, make sure your
> instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
> dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
> according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
>
> --- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
>> still works its just
>> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
>> it gets moisture in
>> all the time. I want to replace it.
>>
>> Kirk L. McCullough
>> Analytical Sales Mgr
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard A.
>> Walker
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
>> To: 'C320-List'
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
>> voltmeter? It may
>> be
>> the connection.
>>
>> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of McCullough, Kirk
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the
>> engine controls? I
>> need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip
>> to the boat until
>> the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins
>> engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kirk L. McCullough
>>
>> Boomerang #124
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 16:39:23 EDT
From: Mtimney at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
To: C320-List at catalina320.com, argates2nd at earthlink.net
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Russ,
I replaced mine last year after an internal break due to a bend radius being
too tight. I purchased mine from West Marine. I don't recall the length.
You should be able to read the model number off your existing cable.
See the following link from West Marine:
_http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/1
0127/0/0/control%20cables/All_2/mode+matchallpartial/0/0_
(http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/10127/0/0/control%20c
ables/All_2/mode+matchallpartial/0/0)
For really helpful (and time saving) installation tips see the following
link from Edson:
_http://www.edsonintl.com/EdsonMarine/pdf/Instructions/EB396EngineControlInstr
.PDF_
(http://www.edsonintl.com/EdsonMarine/pdf/Instructions/EB396EngineControlInstr.PDF)
Hope this helps.
Mark Timney
Second Wind #349
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:11:33 -0700
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Edson makes the part.
Cheers,
Dick Walker
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Russell Monaco
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:45 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
thanks-
thats what I have been trying all day, but no response so far.
russ
"McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com> wrote:
I would contact the Catalina parts department, they can probably give
you a price and a part number for the cable, or at least point you in
the right direction.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Russell Monaco
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:49 AM
To: argates2nd at earthlink.net; C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
thanks for the compass heads up, BUT, doesn't anyone have any tips on
this cable I need to replace? what size? where to get it? anything?
russ
Arthur Gates wrote: Russ,
In 1995 #182, the 4 bolts holding the compass base to the aluminum
binacle
were a problem. They had been locktighted on the bottom threads!
Two came off with a large screw driver plus a large wrench on the square
driver shaft.
The other two required cutting off with a dremel tool once the bolt's
sloted head was stripped.
Edson sent me four 3.5" specially treated replacment bolts for $45 via
overnight del'y which turned out to take 3 days to arrive. Then it
turned
out to take 4" bolts which they didn't have but the local hdwe did in
ss,
so I used anti-seeze grease on the threads. I ret'd the 4 for credit to
Edson, but they would not credit the freight.
I have no input on the cables.
Rollie
> [Original Message]
> From: Russell Monaco
> To: C320-List
> Date: 5/29/2006 2:39:57 PM
> Subject: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
>
> Hi all-
> I snapped the end of the "teleflex" cable this week(the cable from the
helm to the transmission shift lever on the the transmission), while
away
and had to do real Magiver job to get the helm to control the
transmission,
but now i need a new cable, does anyone know exactly what type and
length
cable I need..later I will send the pix of what I came up with to "deal
with thing" temporarily...also, anyone know what it will entail getting
the
compass off, any tips, i know it has been discussed,,,
> russ monaco
>
>
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 19:12:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
Subject: [C320-list] FW: Re: Zinc Saver
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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Jon,
As far as I know, the Zinc Saver Isolator came on the boat from the factory. I believe they were added somewhere in the 1998 model year (around hull 490??).
If someone has developed an easy way to test if the galvanic isolator is working, I'd appreciate seeing it.
Karl Mielenhausen
2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
New Bern, NC
http://members.cox.net/mielen/
From: jonvez at comcast.net [mailto: jonvez at comcast.net]
To: kmielen at iwon.com
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 17:00:11 +0000
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Golf Cart Batteries
<html><body>
<DIV>Hi Karl,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I was looking at your pics and noticed your ZincSaver isolator. Did you install yourself or was that from the factory? I know Catalina started putting these in, but it was after my hull number. If you did put it in yourself, what was the installation like?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jon Vez</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com> <BR><BR>> <BR>> The instaallation of golf cart batteries went smoothly, although the price for <BR>> each is now just under $53 at Sam's Club. They are now sourced from Johnson <BR>> Controls under the Energizer name but seem to have the same specs as the Exide <BR>> E3600 Stowaway that Sam's previously carried (ie. 186 amp-hrs). <BR>> <BR>> I had to lengthen each 4D battery tray by 1.25" and put 2 small dimples in one <BR>> of the compartment covers where the extra height of the GC2 battery caused an <BR>> interference fit. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Pics are here: http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/album86 <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Also, I posted some pics of my GPS Chartplotter installation in a new, second <BR>> Navpod which I located just
below the existing Nav instruments. <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Pics at: http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/album89 <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> Karl Mielenhausen <BR>> <BR>> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining" <BR>> <BR>> New Bern, NC <BR>> <BR>> http://members.cox.net/mielen/ <BR>> <BR>> _______________________________________________ <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> </BLOCKQUOTE></body></html>
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 19:15:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
Subject: [C320-list] FW: Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
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Before I get out the drill....
for those of you with the weep holes drilled in your engine pods, are you free from condensation buildup inside the engine gauges??
Karl Mielenhausen
2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
New Bern, NC
http://members.cox.net/mielen/
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com [mailto: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com]
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:36:15 -0700
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
Weep holes or not, you will always have condensation that inhibit your<br>ability to see your instruments. Weep holes are for water runoff, it will<br>not prevent condensation or 'fogging up' of the instruments....<br><br>cuba libre 2<br>------Original Message------<br>From: Irv Grunes<br>To: Catalina 320 List<br>ReplyTo: Catalina 320 List<br>Sent: May 30, 2006 6:52 AM<br>Subject: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.<br><br>[Sent by: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com ]<br>Does anyone know with what hull number the weep holes were added?<br>Or where , what size, and how many?<br>Or where to look for them.<br>We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.<br>I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.<br>Irv Grunes<br>Isle of Wight #851<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.org]On Behalf Of Chris Burti<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM<br>To: C320-List<br>Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage
Gauge for Engine Controls Pod<br><br><br>I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue<br>just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They<br>actually vent...save your money, make sure your<br>instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help<br>dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes<br>according to Seaward, but I don't know when.<br><br>--- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com><br>wrote:<br><br>> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge<br>> sstill works its just<br>> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and<br>> it gets moisture in<br>> all the time. I want to replace it.<br>><br>> Kirk L. McCullough<br>> Analytical Sales Mgr<br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf<br>> Of Richard A.<br>> Walker<br>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM<br>> To: 'C320-List'<br>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine<br>>
Controls Pod<br>><br>> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a<br>> voltmeter? It may<br>> be<br>> the connection.<br>><br>> http://www.seawardproducts.com<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> Dick Walker<br>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II<br>> 740 Olive Ave.<br>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136<br>> 619.435.8986<br>><br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behhalf<br>> Of McCullough, Kirk<br>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM<br>> To: C320-List<br>> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine<br>> Controls Pod<br>><br>> Does anyone recall off hand the<br><br>------Original Message Truncated------<br>--------------------------<br>Regards,<br>OD<br><br>Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld<br><br><br>-----------------------------------------<br>The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity<br>to which it is addressed and may contain confidential
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 18:07:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Timothy Grennan <timgrennan at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Solar Power
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Hey to All,
I just installed an 85 watt rigid Kyocera solar panel with charge controller to an auxilliary bow mounted to my bimini top. I haven't got pictures yet but when I do I'll upload to the web site. I've been on two long weekend cruises and the panel keeps up with my power needs(approx. 35 amps per day). I keep my boat in a marina but haven't been plugged in for a month with the fridge running. So far I am very pleased with the output.
Tim G.
Jeffrey Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
Hi Guys,
Finding good flexible solar panels right now is a chore.
First, for the bad news... Flexible solar panels are very hard to find,
and many are not in production at all this year. Factories re-tooled to
produce volume high end non-flexible panels. The ones you do find are
probably way overpriced. Rigid solar panels are harder to store and easier
to break.
I paid somewhere around $95 + shipping for a UniSolar (USF/FLX11W) for mine
3 years ago. Price has probably doubled since then.
The panel I recommend is either the UniSolar USF11 (11Watt) or USF32
(32Watt) flexible panel. It lays smoothly over your Dodger, deck or bimini
top and provides a great boost. When you don't need it, it'll slide right
under the dinette settee, or the port side settee cushion. Has large
grommets in the corners to let you attach it in all sorts of ways.
They are very well built, can be walked/danced on and don't need any special
wiring to use. With the 32W version, you may want a small charge controller
to prevent overcharging if you leave it plugged in for weeks on end. The 11W
version doesn't need a controller.
-Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: C320-List-bounces
> Sent: 05/28/2006 09:09 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Solar Power
>
> I keep my boat on a mooring and have not been happy with battery
> performance and so have been wondering the same thing. What we need
> is for one of the electrically savvy to design the ideal setup for
> people who rarely "plug in" but still want to use their house banks
> for things like refrigeration, lights, etc.
>
> Tim wrote:
>> Any good experiences installing a solar panel? Going to be mooring my
>> 320 and want to make sure the batteries stay fresh or is there a
>> better solution? thnx !
>>
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Message: 26
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:40:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Van Vessem <jvanvessem at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head valves-- OK leave open?
To: joe at dolphinmortgage.com, C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Joe,
I had replaced the joker valve two years ago and actually ordered two of them from the manufacturer. Your email just remined me that I have a brand new valve that I am going to replace. Thanx Joe.
John (Sojourn 645)
Joe Barrett <joe at dolphinmortgage.com> wrote:
Hi John, if the bowl is filling up while you are away it is probably the
joker valve beneath the head pump needs replacing. It is about $9 at Wet
Marine and usually in stock.
Joe Barrett
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Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 9:11 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head valves-- OK leave open?
Len,
I leave the valves open, have not had a problem in the 5 years I've owned
the boat. However I have found that if the bowl is empty when I leave, it
will fill up when I return the next week. So what I do now is fill the
bowl up with fresh water before leaving. I believe the top of the bowl is
above the water line so water can not overflow past that. Unless of course
you have other problems that would cause the water line to raise.
John (Sojourn 645)
belairlk at aim.com wrote:
Catalina recommends closing the head seawater intake valve and head
discharge to sea valves when leaving boat. Some owners say it's OK to just
leave them open, as boat won't flood. Any comments or experience to indicate
they should be closed?
Len Krane
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Message: 27
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 21:48:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Van Vessem <jvanvessem at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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CRA,
I also have moisture in my instruments in the winter (San Francisco), it's clearly a condensation problem (temperature differential and moister content in the air. I'm not worried about it because I believe the manufacturer designed the instruments to breath rather then having them sealed. In any event it doesn't show up in the summer.
John (Sojourn645)
crashley at gte.net wrote:
I have the same issue with moisture sometimes getting into the engine pod
and causing the instruments to fog up. I'd like to know where the moisture
comes from as this occurs even when it hasn't rained (it hardly ever does in
So Cal) and the wheel stand is always covered with the canvas when not in
use. I'll be interested in the answer to your question.
CRA
Rosebud #882
----- Original Message -----
From: "Irv Grunes"
To: "C320-List"
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
> Does anyone know with what hull number the weep holes were added?
> Or where , what size, and how many?
> Or where to look for them.
> We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.
> I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.
> Irv Grunes
> Isle of Wight #851
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
>
>
> I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
> just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
> actually vent...save your money, make sure your
> instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
> dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
> according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
>
> --- "McCullough, Kirk"
> wrote:
>
>> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
>> still works its just
>> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
>> it gets moisture in
>> all the time. I want to replace it.
>>
>> Kirk L. McCullough
>> Analytical Sales Mgr
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard A.
>> Walker
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
>> To: 'C320-List'
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
>> voltmeter? It may
>> be
>> the connection.
>>
>> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of McCullough, Kirk
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Does anyone recall off hand the manufacturer of the
>> engine controls? I
>> need to replace the voltmeter and can't make a trip
>> to the boat until
>> the weekend. The boat is 1994 with the Perkins
>> engine.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kirk L. McCullough
>>
>> Boomerang #124
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
John Van Vessem
Sojourn 645
Vallejo Yacht Club
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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 05:25:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tim <chillinonahd at yahoo.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Bedding
To: C320 List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <20060531122526.34244.qmail at web50208.mail.yahoo.com>
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Can anyone tell me what type of bedding best fits (full, queen, etc) the fore and aft berths? If not, any suggestions of website to order bedding. Thanks !!
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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 11:06:14 -0400
From: "Charles Greenwell" <CGreenwell at sparusa.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <9C8014FEBD56664498942B36E7A256FC07C5C3 at spar1.sparusa.com>
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I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a lot of water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it out. The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a hose I shot water into the line to prime the pump and behold?. It was now working. I pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in it, just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I hit the manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also dry. I removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured they were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft areas that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both completely dry, from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I checked the sides of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first time it had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no evidence of any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after launching.
Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
Randy
Le Bijou ? Hull 719
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Message: 30
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 12:50:44 -0400
From: "Chris Holt" <oldman1030 at hotmail.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Mark Yeager's Loos tensions
To: "c320" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Are the Loos tensions in Mark Yeager's article for the side stays usable if you do not make the modifications to the forestay and add a backstay adjuster?
Thanks,
Chris
Wine Down #447
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Message: 31
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 13:30:45 -0400
From: David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Taking on water
To: David Nolte <david at karaoke.com>
Cc: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <BFBAFDB2-272B-440B-AAFA-59B65CB8F09E at mac.com>
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To clarify, when I referred to water in "all sections" of the bilge,
I meant all sections under the the main salon. along the centerline,
from the compression post aft to just before the galley.
Thanks,
David Nolte
Beach House #4
On May 31, 2006, at 1:27 PM, David Nolte wrote:
> Got out (finally!) for the first time this season over the weekend.
>
> When I left, all sections of the bilge were bone dry. When I'm not
> on the boat I leave the floor section bilge covers off and I have a
> solar fan in the main cabin hatch that keeps the bilge dry.
>
> After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we anchored and I
> checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all sections. I
> noticed while we were at anchor that the float switch was activated
> at least once and moved some water out.
>
> When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and emptied 5
> buckets of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be seeping in
> from the aft-most opening, around (but not through) the tube which
> I believe drains the reefer.
>
> I've checked all through-hulls and inspected everywhere I could
> think of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or below the
> engine or the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored around
> for about half an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of
> wetness coming in around that aft hole.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where water could be
> coming from that would drain into the bilge from that opening?
>
> BTW, This will be our second full season with the boat. We love it.
> And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail Creek, on the
> Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river north of
> Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott Thompson (Surprise
> #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House #4
> (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
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Message: 32
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:28:51 -0400
From: David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com>
Subject: [C320-list] (no subject)
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <4FBE1B1F-85B4-4094-BCD3-6D010A971382 at mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
Got out (finally!) for the first time this season over the weekend.
When I left, all sections of the bilge under the main salon were bone
dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor section bilge covers
off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin hatch that keeps the
bilge dry.
After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we anchored and I
checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all sections under
the main salon. I noticed while we were at anchor that the float
switch was activated at least once and moved some water out.
When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and emptied 5 buckets
of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be seeping in from the aft-
most opening, around (but not through) the tube which I believe
drains the reefer.
I've checked all through-hulls and inspected everywhere I could think
of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or below the engine or
the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored around for about half
an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of wetness coming in
around that aft hole.
Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where water could be
coming from that would drain into the bilge from that opening?
BTW, This will be our second full season with the boat. We love it.
And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail Creek, on the
Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river north of
Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott Thompson (Surprise
#653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
David Nolte
Beach House #4
(the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
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Message: 33
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 16:55:33 -0500
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Waeco/Alder Barbour Cold Machine
To: "C320" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000c01c684fc$f1852e20$6401a8c0 at JCJG1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Is there a fuse on the bottom of the electronic compressor control module for the refrigerator? My 'frige has stopped working. I checked for (and found) 12 volts at the controller and in the process spotted a gray rectangular piece that could be covering a fuse. It didn't come off easily and I don't want to force it without knowing what it is. The instructions are a blurry and useless photocopy.
Thanks
JeffC
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Message: 34
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:26:16 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: [C320-list] List reboot test... Ignore please.
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <001b01c68501$3c899970$6701a8c0 at Altech>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
The mailing list hung and needed to be restarted. Just a test..
No need to reply.
-Jeff Hare
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Message: 35
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:35:05 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: [C320-list] List Test
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <002501c68502$77ebaac0$6701a8c0 at Altech>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Sys-Admin List Test. No need to respond..
Thanks, Jeff Hare
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Message: 36
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 18:39:58 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: [C320-list] List Test
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c68503$26bacbd0$6701a8c0 at Altech>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Testing email list server
Please don't respond.
-Jeff Hare
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Message: 37
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:17:02 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: [C320-list] List Test
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <004101c68510$b6052800$6701a8c0 at Altech>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Testing list server. Please ignore.
-Jeff Hare
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Message: 38
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:46:20 -0400
From: "Irv Grunes" <igrunes at comcast.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Costs
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Does anyone has any good info as to the cost of a whisker pole for a 135
Genoa.
Want to put it into a long term budget.
Also looking to get an idea as to the total cost for installation of a track
on the mast for storage and adjustment of height on the inboard end.
What pole length have people purchased?
Any estimated pricing and/or parts list would be appreciated.
Irv Grunes
Isle of Wight #851
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Message: 39
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:08:07 -0500
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
To: "C320" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000f01c68528$9b7092f0$6401a8c0 at JCJG1>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
My refrigerator stopped working! The compressor is silent and the fan doesn't run. I'm getting 12 volts at the electronic control module on the compressor and the thermostat checks out, so I suspect the module is bad. One last hope would be that there is a blown fuse on the module. The diagram of the module in my copy of the instructions is a blurry, useless mess, but I did find a gray rectangular piece on the bottom of the module that could be covering a fuse. It didn't come off easily and I don't want to force it without knowing what it is. If someone knows what it is or can check their copy of the instructions I would appreciate the help before I pry (break) off the gray piece.
Thanks in advance.
JeffC
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Message: 40
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:11:42 -0400
From: <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <f426fac6.c15b0999.81d7700 at ms07.lnh.mail.rcn.net>
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"It doesn't often rain in Caliofnia, seems I've heard that line
before" was the Mamas and Papas. OK, there is fog, and there
is dampness in the air, and last time I checked the canvas
cover wasn't air tight.
Adam
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Message: 41
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:15:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Van Vessem <jvanvessem at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head valves-- OK leave open?
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Hi Richard,
It is not the location of the thru hull fitting that matters it is the level of the other end of the pipe, in this case the toilet bowl. If the toilet bowl is above the water line there is no phisical way that water can over flow, valve or no valve. However, I have read a story where a boat owner had a party on board, if I remember corectly he had 25 or 30 people on board which drastically lowered the water line and unbeknownst the owner, water was flowing into the boat from the toilet bowl. The water was coming in pretty fast so the bildge pump could not keep up. The extra weight of the water coming in added to the raising of the water line (or the sinking of the boat.) Fortunately the owner discovered the problem before a disaster.
I firmly believe that all thru hull fittings should be shut when not in use, but in actuallity, for me, it is just to impractical. I believe the risk water comming in from the galley sink, or the engine muffler, or the toilet bowl is low enough that i don't have to worry about it. I should also say, that I sail every week all year round, I do not leave my boat for extended periods, which I'm sure has a lot to do with my confidence. If I were to leave my boat for 4 or 5 weeks, I might also shut those valves. By the way I do exercise the valves 3 or 4 times a year.
John (Sojourn 645)
"Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net> wrote:
John that is
s bad advice. The thru-hull fitting is below the water line. The C-320
manual and a placard on the boat has a warning to close the head thru-hull
except when using it. The reason is that there is a small plastic flapper
valve that has been know to break and that is all that is keeping you boat
from sinking.
Cheers,
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of John Van Vessem
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:11 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head valves-- OK leave open?
Len,
I leave the valves open, have not had a problem in the 5 years I've owned
the boat. However I have found that if the bowl is empty when I leave, it
will fill up when I return the next week. So what I do now is fill the
bowl up with fresh water before leaving. I believe the top of the bowl is
above the water line so water can not overflow past that. Unless of course
you have other problems that would cause the water line to raise.
John (Sojourn 645)
belairlk at aim.com wrote:
Catalina recommends closing the head seawater intake valve and head
discharge to sea valves when leaving boat. Some owners say it's OK to just
leave them open, as boat won't flood. Any comments or experience to indicate
they should be closed?
Len Krane
Aqua5 #1070
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Vallejo Yacht Club
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Sojourn 645
Vallejo Yacht Club
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Message: 42
Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:06:13 -0700
From: <crashley at gte.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <000701c68541$7ce9e6b0$6400a8c0 at Desktop1>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
reply-type=original
Orlando,
So what causes the condensation to begin with? Just curious.
CRA
Rosebud #882
----- Original Message -----
From: <Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com>
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
> Weep holes or not, you will always have condensation that inhibit your
> ability to see your instruments. Weep holes are for water runoff, it will
> not prevent condensation or 'fogging up' of the instruments....
>
> cuba libre 2
> ------Original Message------
> From: Irv Grunes
> To: Catalina 320 List
> ReplyTo: Catalina 320 List
> Sent: May 30, 2006 6:52 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
>
> [Sent by: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com ]
> Does anyone know with what hull number the weep holes were added?
> Or where , what size, and how many?
> Or where to look for them.
> We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.
> I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.
> Irv Grunes
> Isle of Wight #851
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
>
>
> I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
> just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
> actually vent...save your money, make sure your
> instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
> dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
> according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
>
> --- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
>> still works its just
>> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
>> it gets moisture in
>> all the time. I want to replace it.
>>
>> Kirk L. McCullough
>> Analytical Sales Mgr
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard A.
>> Walker
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
>> To: 'C320-List'
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
>> voltmeter? It may
>> be
>> the connection.
>>
>> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of McCullough, Kirk
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Does anyone recall off hand the
>
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Message: 43
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:12:26 +0530
From: "Onsmart-Smita" <smita at onsmart.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Test mail from support
To: <c320-list at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <001201c68546$8ea74690$0f05a8c0 at aressc313>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
testing
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Message: 44
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 01:59:27 -0700
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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<OF6F88C0C4.01836611-ON88257180.003163A7 at averydennison.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format="flowed";
reply-type="original"
As I mentioned, dampness during the night most likely.....any number of reasons that makes things 'moist' on any boat...
cuba libre 2
--------------------------
Regards,
OD
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
----- Original Message -----
From: C320-List-bounces
Sent: 05/31/2006 11:06 PM
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
Orlando,
So what causes the condensation to begin with? Just curious.
CRA
Rosebud #882
----- Original Message -----
From: <Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com>
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
> Weep holes or not, you will always have condensation that inhibit your
> ability to see your instruments. Weep holes are for water runoff, it will
> not prevent condensation or 'fogging up' of the instruments....
>
> cuba libre 2
> ------Original Message------
> From: Irv Grunes
> To: Catalina 320 List
> ReplyTo: Catalina 320 List
> Sent: May 30, 2006 6:52 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
>
> [Sent by: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com ]
> Does anyone know with what hull number the weep holes were added?
> Or where , what size, and how many?
> Or where to look for them.
> We sometimes get moisture in our engine instruments.
> I thought it was a Pod sealing problem.
> Irv Grunes
> Isle of Wight #851
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Chris Burti
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:24 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine Controls Pod
>
>
> I talked with Seaward Tech Service about this issue
> just last week. They are not sealed instruments. They
> actually vent...save your money, make sure your
> instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom to help
> dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add the holes
> according to Seaward, but I don't know when.
>
> --- "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dick thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge
>> still works its just
>> that the bezel is separating from the gauge body and
>> it gets moisture in
>> all the time. I want to replace it.
>>
>> Kirk L. McCullough
>> Analytical Sales Mgr
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of Richard A.
>> Walker
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM
>> To: 'C320-List'
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Here it is Kirk. Have you checked the leads with a
>> voltmeter? It may
>> be
>> the connection.
>>
>> http://www.seawardproducts.com
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf
>> Of McCullough, Kirk
>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 2:04 PM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine
>> Controls Pod
>>
>> Does anyone recall off hand the
>
> ------Original Message Truncated------
> --------------------------
> Regards,
> OD
>
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Message: 45
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:35:53 +1000
From: "Nigel Price" <nigel.price at bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] (no subject)
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David,
I've been in a mild panic since I bought hull #1061 new, six months ago,
because of exactly the problem you describe. I have come to the conclusion
that the egress is through the stern gland, which accounts for the rising
level when under power. I tightened the gland to the point that it was dry
when the engine was idle and the bilges remain dry.....until the shaft
rotates. Guess the water has to go somewhere if it's coming through the
stern gland.
Cheers,
Nigel
Sydney, Australia.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Nolte" <dcnolte at mac.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:28 AM
Subject: [C320-list] (no subject)
> Got out (finally!) for the first time this season over the weekend.
>
> When I left, all sections of the bilge under the main salon were bone
> dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor section bilge covers
> off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin hatch that keeps the
> bilge dry.
>
> After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we anchored and I
> checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all sections under
> the main salon. I noticed while we were at anchor that the float
> switch was activated at least once and moved some water out.
>
> When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and emptied 5 buckets
> of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be seeping in from the aft-
> most opening, around (but not through) the tube which I believe
> drains the reefer.
>
> I've checked all through-hulls and inspected everywhere I could think
> of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or below the engine or
> the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored around for about half
> an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of wetness coming in
> around that aft hole.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where water could be
> coming from that would drain into the bilge from that opening?
>
> BTW, This will be our second full season with the boat. We love it.
> And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail Creek, on the
> Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river north of
> Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott Thompson (Surprise
> #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House #4
> (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
>
>
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Message: 46
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:13:53 -0400
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Mark Yeager's Loos tensions
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I've done both the backstay adjuster and the Loos tensions and don't see
any reason why you couldn't at least tune the shrouds, but I'm not a
rigger.
Mike
Seychelle #141
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Holt
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:51 PM
To: c320
Subject: [C320-list] Mark Yeager's Loos tensions
Are the Loos tensions in Mark Yeager's article for the side stays usable
if you do not make the modifications to the forestay and add a backstay
adjuster?
Thanks,
Chris
Wine Down #447
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Message: 47
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:28:15 -0400
From: Barry Fahrer <bfahrer at lisurveyor.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
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We are able to use a fitted queen size sheet on the mattress in the aft
cabin.
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To: "C320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:25 AM
Subject: [C320-list] Bedding
> Can anyone tell me what type of bedding best fits (full, queen, etc) the
> fore and aft berths? If not, any suggestions of website to order bedding.
> Thanks !!
>
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Message: 48
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 04:29:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Russell Monaco <russgm at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Transmission/Teleflex cable woes
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Mark-
Thanks alot!! That should really help me, I have ordered the parts and hope they arrive today and maybe I can get to boat a start project.
-russ
Mtimney at aol.com wrote: Russ,
I replaced mine last year after an internal break due to a bend radius being
too tight. I purchased mine from West Marine. I don't recall the length.
You should be able to read the model number off your existing cable.
See the following link from West Marine:
_http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/1
0127/0/0/control%20cables/All_2/mode+matchallpartial/0/0_
(http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/10127/0/0/control%20c
ables/All_2/mode+matchallpartial/0/0)
For really helpful (and time saving) installation tips see the following
link from Edson:
_http://www.edsonintl.com/EdsonMarine/pdf/Instructions/EB396EngineControlInstr
.PDF_
(http://www.edsonintl.com/EdsonMarine/pdf/Instructions/EB396EngineControlInstr.PDF)
Hope this helps.
Mark Timney
Second Wind #349
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Message: 49
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:00:00 -0400
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Costs
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Irv,
I recently added everything mentioned below, except I acquired a
spinnaker pole instead of whisker pole. I have an invoice at home alas
only in hard copy only which specifies every part # etc. Please supply a
fax number.
Mike
Seychell3, #141
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irv Grunes
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:46 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Costs
Does anyone has any good info as to the cost of a whisker pole for a 135
Genoa.
Want to put it into a long term budget.
Also looking to get an idea as to the total cost for installation of a
track on the mast for storage and adjustment of height on the inboard
end.
What pole length have people purchased?
Any estimated pricing and/or parts list would be appreciated.
Irv Grunes
Isle of Wight #851
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Message: 50
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:11:05 +0000
From: jonvez at comcast.net
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David,
Two places to look if you haven't already are the hot water heater(regulator valve) and your water tanks (inspection ports)...I plumbed a plastic tube to my heater's regulator which feeds to a plastic soda bottle and get about a 1/3 liter a week when the heater is on or we are motoring for extended periods....This will drain into the bilge from where the reefer hose drains (on certain hull #'s)....Good luck..
Regards,
Jon Vez
-------------- Original message --------------
From: David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com>
> Got out (finally!) for the first time this season over the weekend.
>
> When I left, all sections of the bilge under the main salon were bone
> dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor section bilge covers
> off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin hatch that keeps the
> bilge dry.
>
> After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we anchored and I
> checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all sections under
> the main salon. I noticed while we were at anchor that the float
> switch was activated at least once and moved some water out.
>
> When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and emptied 5 buckets
> of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be seeping in from the aft-
> most opening, around (but not through) the tube which I believe
> drains the reefer.
>
> I've checked all through-hulls and inspected everywhere I could think
> of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or below the engine or
> the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored around for about half
> an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of wetness coming in
> around that aft hole.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where water could be
> coming from that would drain into the bilge from that opening?
>
> BTW, This will be our second full season with the boat. We love it.
> And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail Creek, on the
> Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river north of
> Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott Thompson (Surprise
> #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House #4
> (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
>
>
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Message: 51
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:15:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
To: kmielen at iwon.com, C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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No
Per Seaward: we need the holes because the instruments
are not sealed and will get moisture due to
condensation. The hole promote an exchange of air that
will permit the moisture to migrate out of the unit.
Can't say it works or not...Mine are fogged whenever
the humidity is high.
--- "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
wrote:
>
> Before I get out the drill....
>
> for those of you with the weep holes drilled in your
> engine pods, are you free from condensation buildup
> inside the engine gauges??
>
>
>
> Karl Mielenhausen
>
> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>
> New Bern, NC
>
> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>
>
>
> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com [mailto:
> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com]
>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:36:15 -0700
>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
>
>
>
> Weep holes or not, you will always have condensation
> that inhibit your<br>ability to see your
> instruments. Weep holes are for water runoff, it
> will<br>not prevent condensation or 'fogging up' of
> the instruments....<br><br>cuba libre
> 2<br>------Original Message------<br>From: Irv
> Grunes<br>To: Catalina 320 List<br>ReplyTo: Catalina
> 320 List<br>Sent: May 30, 2006 6:52 AM<br>Subject:
> [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.<br><br>[Sent
> by: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com ]<br>Does
> anyone know with what hull number the weep holes
> were added?<br>Or where , what size, and how
> many?<br>Or where to look for them.<br>We sometimes
> get moisture in our engine instruments.<br>I thought
> it was a Pod sealing problem.<br>Irv Grunes<br>Isle
> of Wight #851<br><br>-----Original
> Message-----<br>From:
>
C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.org]On
> Behalf Of Chris Burti<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006
> 8:24 AM<br>To: C320-List<br>Subject: Re: [C320-list]
> Voltage
> Gauge for Engine Controls Pod<br><br><br>I talked
> with Seaward Tech Service about this issue<br>just
> last week. They are not sealed instruments.
> They<br>actually vent...save your money, make sure
> your<br>instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom
> to help<br>dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add
> the holes<br>according to Seaward, but I don't know
> when.<br><br>--- "McCullough, Kirk"
> <kirk.mccullough at btg.com><br>wrote:<br><br>> Dick
> thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge<br>>
> still works its just<br>> that the bezel is
> separating from the gauge body and<br>> it gets
> moisture in<br>> all the time. I want to replace
> it.<br>><br>> Kirk L. McCullough<br>> Analytical
> Sales Mgr<br>><br>><br>> -----Original
> Message-----<br>> From:
> C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>>
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf<br>> Of Richard A.<br>> Walker<br>> Sent:
> Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM<br>> To:
> 'C320-List'<br>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage
> Gauge for Engine<br>>
> Controls Pod<br>><br>> Here it is Kirk. Have you
> checked the leads with a<br>> voltmeter? It
> may<br>> be<br>> the connection.<br>><br>>
> http://www.seawardproducts.com<br>><br>>
> Cheers,<br>><br>> Dick Walker<br>> C-320 (687)
> WindWalker II<br>> 740 Olive Ave.<br>> Coronado, CA
> 92118-2136<br>> 619.435.8986<br>><br>><br>>
> -----Original Message-----<br>> From:
> C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>>
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf<br>> Of McCullough, Kirk<br>> Sent: Monday,
> May 29, 2006 2:04 PM<br>> To: C320-List<br>>
> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine<br>>
> Controls Pod<br>><br>> Does anyone recall off hand
> the<br><br>------Original Message
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Message: 52
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:17:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Unfortunately, for the aft cabin, it is flat King. I don't know about
the v berth.
Steve
Alchemist #909
--- Tim <chillinonahd at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what type of bedding best fits (full, queen, etc)
> the fore and aft berths? If not, any suggestions of website to order
> bedding. Thanks !!
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Message: 53
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:21:51 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] (no subject)
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Hi David,
Nigel's probably correct here. Note that even once you get the packing
seal adjusted properly, don't be surprised if you notice water in the bilge
after a sail. There is an area of the bilge *below* the engine pan that can
hold quite a bit of the water that dripped from the shaft seal. This has a
tendency to slosh forward and make its way to the bilge for quite a while
afterwords. If you get 7 or 8 people and have a party on the bow of the
boat, it'll move into the bilge more quickly.. :)
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Nigel Price [mailto:nigel.price at bigpond.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:36 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] (no subject)
David,
I've been in a mild panic since I bought hull #1061 new, six months ago,
because of exactly the problem you describe. I have come to the conclusion
that the egress is through the stern gland, which accounts for the rising
level when under power. I tightened the gland to the point that it was dry
when the engine was idle and the bilges remain dry.....until the shaft
rotates. Guess the water has to go somewhere if it's coming through the
stern gland.
Cheers,
Nigel
Sydney, Australia.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Nolte" <dcnolte at mac.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:28 AM
Subject: [C320-list] (no subject)
> Got out (finally!) for the first time this season over the weekend.
>
> When I left, all sections of the bilge under the main salon were bone
> dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor section bilge covers
> off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin hatch that keeps the
> bilge dry.
>
> After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we anchored and I
> checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all sections under
> the main salon. I noticed while we were at anchor that the float
> switch was activated at least once and moved some water out.
>
> When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and emptied 5 buckets
> of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be seeping in from the aft-
> most opening, around (but not through) the tube which I believe
> drains the reefer.
>
> I've checked all through-hulls and inspected everywhere I could think
> of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or below the engine or
> the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored around for about half
> an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of wetness coming in
> around that aft hole.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where water could be
> coming from that would drain into the bilge from that opening?
>
> BTW, This will be our second full season with the boat. We love it.
> And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail Creek, on the
> Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river north of
> Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott Thompson (Surprise
> #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House #4
> (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
>
>
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Message: 54
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:23:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] (no subject)
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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First guess would be your hot water heater pressure
relief valve. Assumming you have one and assuming the
heat exchanger is hooked to your engine.
Second guess, one of your engine raw water hoses.
--- David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
> Got out (finally!) for the first time this season
> over the weekend.
>
> When I left, all sections of the bilge under the
> main salon were bone
> dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor
> section bilge covers
> off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin hatch
> that keeps the
> bilge dry.
>
> After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we
> anchored and I
> checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all
> sections under
> the main salon. I noticed while we were at anchor
> that the float
> switch was activated at least once and moved some
> water out.
>
> When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and
> emptied 5 buckets
> of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be
> seeping in from the aft-
> most opening, around (but not through) the tube
> which I believe
> drains the reefer.
>
> I've checked all through-hulls and inspected
> everywhere I could think
> of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or
> below the engine or
> the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored
> around for about half
> an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of
> wetness coming in
> around that aft hole.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where
> water could be
> coming from that would drain into the bilge from
> that opening?
>
> BTW, This will be our second full season with the
> boat. We love it.
> And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail
> Creek, on the
> Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river
> north of
> Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott
> Thompson (Surprise
> #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House #4
> (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
>
>
>
Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867,
Farmville, NC
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Message: 55
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:30:08 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <001001c68577$1fffad50$6701a8c0 at Altech>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
For those who have ordered the Tufted Topper (www.tuftedtopper.com), you
can send them a pair of new unwashed king sized flat sheets, and they'll sew
them into a custom fitted bottom sheet and a pocketed top sheet for you.
They charge somewhere around $75 per sheet set to modify.
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Fahrer [mailto:bfahrer at lisurveyor.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:28 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
We are able to use a fitted queen size sheet on the mattress in the aft
cabin.
BARRY --... ...--
TRANSIT C-320 #-126
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <chillinonahd at yahoo.com>
To: "C320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:25 AM
Subject: [C320-list] Bedding
> Can anyone tell me what type of bedding best fits (full, queen, etc) the
> fore and aft berths? If not, any suggestions of website to order bedding.
> Thanks !!
>
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Message: 56
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:50:38 -0500
From: "Dave Sparks" <dlsparks at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Have you eliminated the possibility that this is water from the water tanks.
Recently, I had a lot of water in the bilge and, to make a long story short,
finally discovered that this did not occur unless the water pressure switch
was on. In my case, the source was a loose connection on the cold water line
to the faucet in the head. This slow leak emptied both water tanks over the
course of a couple of days.
Dave Sparks
En Passant - # 933
On 5/31/06, Charles Greenwell <CGreenwell at sparusa.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry
> bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a lot of
> water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it
> out. The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a hose I
> shot water into the line to prime the pump and behold?. It was now
> working. I pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
>
> The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in
> it, just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I hit the
> manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This
> time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also dry. I
> removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured they
> were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
>
> Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft
> areas that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both completely
> dry, from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I checked the
> sides of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
>
> This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the
> keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first time it
> had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no evidence of
> any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was
> launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after
> launching.
>
> Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts
> ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching
> the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
>
> Randy
> Le Bijou ? Hull 719
>
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Message: 57
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 05:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stuffing box drips
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Traditional packing should be adjusted to drip 1-2
drops per minute at rest. The water serves as a
lubricant to prefent friction wear and overheating. At
rest, this will usually dry before it gets to the
bilge, but will result in water when mooring because
the flow increases when the shaft is turning.
It is fairly common to require adjustment over time
and almost always after being hauled.
Last year I replaced the packing with the goretex
impregnated kind. It can be adjusted to not drip and
yet not overheat as tradtional packing because it is
self-lubricating. Cost-less than $10 at an industrial
supply, slightly more at a marine supply.
Now the only water in my bilge comes from over-filling
the water tanks. I put teflon plumbing tape around the
inspection ports which helps unless I try to fill to
the top and create pressure.
--- Jeffrey Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Nigel's probably correct here. Note that even
> once you get the packing
> seal adjusted properly, don't be surprised if you
> notice water in the bilge
> after a sail. There is an area of the bilge *below*
> the engine pan that can
> hold quite a bit of the water that dripped from the
> shaft seal. This has a
> tendency to slosh forward and make its way to the
> bilge for quite a while
> afterwords. If you get 7 or 8 people and have a
> party on the bow of the
> boat, it'll move into the bilge more quickly.. :)
>
> -Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nigel Price [mailto:nigel.price at bigpond.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:36 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] (no subject)
>
> David,
> I've been in a mild panic since I bought hull
> #1061 new, six months ago,
> because of exactly the problem you describe. I have
> come to the conclusion
> that the egress is through the stern gland, which
> accounts for the rising
> level when under power. I tightened the gland to the
> point that it was dry
> when the engine was idle and the bilges remain
> dry.....until the shaft
> rotates. Guess the water has to go somewhere if it's
> coming through the
> stern gland.
> Cheers,
> Nigel
> Sydney, Australia.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Nolte" <dcnolte at mac.com>
> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:28 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] (no subject)
>
>
> > Got out (finally!) for the first time this
> season over the weekend.
> >
> > When I left, all sections of the bilge under the
> main salon were bone
> > dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor
> section bilge covers
> > off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin
> hatch that keeps the
> > bilge dry.
> >
> > After sailing and then motoring for about 2
> hours we anchored and I
> > checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in
> all sections under
> > the main salon. I noticed while we were at
> anchor that the float
> > switch was activated at least once and moved
> some water out.
> >
> > When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped
> and emptied 5 buckets
> > of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be
> seeping in from the aft-
> > most opening, around (but not through) the tube
> which I believe
> > drains the reefer.
> >
> > I've checked all through-hulls and inspected
> everywhere I could think
> > of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around
> or below the engine or
> > the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored
> around for about half
> > an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of
> wetness coming in
> > around that aft hole.
> >
> > Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas
> where water could be
> > coming from that would drain into the bilge from
> that opening?
> >
> > BTW, This will be our second full season with
> the boat. We love it.
> > And this list is great. We keep the boat in
> Cattail Creek, on the
> > Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one
> river north of
> > Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott
> Thompson (Surprise
> > #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
> >
> > David Nolte
> > Beach House #4
> > (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867,
Farmville, NC
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Message: 58
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:58:42 -0400
From: "Charles Greenwell" <CGreenwell at sparusa.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Yep, have checked the tanks. They are empty.
I have isolated the 2 deep bilge bowls. The one with the bilge pump and the on just forward. These 2 areas fill with water over night. Tonight I will plug the drain hole from the forward area and try to see if it is just the center that accumulates the water.
Randy
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Message: 59
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 06:01:18 -0700
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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If you think this might be the problem, put some food coloring into each tank (different color of course) and just look to see which color fills up your bilge...
cuba libre 2
--------------------------
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OD
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Have you eliminated the possibility that this is water from the water tanks.
Recently, I had a lot of water in the bilge and, to make a long story short,
finally discovered that this did not occur unless the water pressure switch
was on. In my case, the source was a loose connection on the cold water line
to the faucet in the head. This slow leak emptied both water tanks over the
course of a couple of days.
Dave Sparks
En Passant - # 933
On 5/31/06, Charles Greenwell <CGreenwell at sparusa.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry
> bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a lot of
> water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it
> out. The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a hose I
> shot water into the line to prime the pump and behold?. It was now
> working. I pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
>
> The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in
> it, just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I hit the
> manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This
> time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also dry. I
> removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured they
> were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
>
> Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft
> areas that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both completely
> dry, from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I checked the
> sides of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
>
> This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the
> keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first time it
> had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no evidence of
> any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was
> launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after
> launching.
>
> Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts
> ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching
> the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
>
> Randy
> Le Bijou ? Hull 719
>
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Message: 60
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 06:02:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Culbertson <billculb_a2 at yahoo.com>
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Third guess - leaking muffler.
If the water in the bilge is warm, it's likely either the hot water heater or the muffler. If cold it could be raw water hose or fresh water tank leak.
-bill culbertson
Harmony #859
Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com> wrote:
First guess would be your hot water heater pressure
relief valve. Assumming you have one and assuming the
heat exchanger is hooked to your engine.
Second guess, one of your engine raw water hoses.
--- David Nolte wrote:
> Got out (finally!) for the first time this season
> over the weekend.
>
> When I left, all sections of the bilge under the
> main salon were bone
> dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor
> section bilge covers
> off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin hatch
> that keeps the
> bilge dry.
>
> After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we
> anchored and I
> checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all
> sections under
> the main salon. I noticed while we were at anchor
> that the float
> switch was activated at least once and moved some
> water out.
>
> When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and
> emptied 5 buckets
> of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be
> seeping in from the aft-
> most opening, around (but not through) the tube
> which I believe
> drains the reefer.
>
> I've checked all through-hulls and inspected
> everywhere I could think
> of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or
> below the engine or
> the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored
> around for about half
> an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of
> wetness coming in
> around that aft hole.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where
> water could be
> coming from that would drain into the bilge from
> that opening?
>
> BTW, This will be our second full season with the
> boat. We love it.
> And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail
> Creek, on the
> Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river
> north of
> Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott
> Thompson (Surprise
> #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House #4
> (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
>
>
>
Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867,
Farmville, NC
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Message: 61
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:44:52 -0400
From: "David Cardoza" <dave at avaloncon.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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I used to have a similar problem. It turned out that if the water heater
came up to hear (Usually from the motor) and the water pressure pump was on
I would loose most of my fresh water through the pressure relief valve on
the water heater (easily spotted through the small door on the back side of
the sink where you access the thru hull. If this is the problem you can not
just replace it with one from home depot because they are designed to
release at a lower temp than the engine will heat the water to. You will
need to get one from seaward I think it had a 190degFar release.
Another problem I had when I first got the boat was that the cap on the
anti-siphon loop in the back of the locker on the deck was loose and would
drip water when the engine ran. That one took a little longer to find
because the water would drip along the hose into the bilge. Also if you live
in an area where you have to winterize due to freezing check the hose to the
rear deck shower for cracks.
Just a few possibilities that I learned from experience over the past few
years.
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
If you think this might be the problem, put some food coloring into each
tank (different color of course) and just look to see which color fills up
your bilge...
cuba libre 2
--------------------------
Regards,
OD
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
Have you eliminated the possibility that this is water from the water tanks.
Recently, I had a lot of water in the bilge and, to make a long story short,
finally discovered that this did not occur unless the water pressure switch
was on. In my case, the source was a loose connection on the cold water line
to the faucet in the head. This slow leak emptied both water tanks over the
course of a couple of days.
Dave Sparks
En Passant - # 933
On 5/31/06, Charles Greenwell <CGreenwell at sparusa.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry
> bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a lot of
> water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it
> out. The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a hose
I
> shot water into the line to prime the pump and behold.. It was now
> working. I pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
>
> The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in
> it, just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I hit
the
> manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This
> time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also dry.
I
> removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured they
> were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
>
> Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft
> areas that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both
completely
> dry, from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I checked
the
> sides of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
>
> This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the
> keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first time it
> had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no evidence of
> any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was
> launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after
> launching.
>
> Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts
> ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching
> the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
>
> Randy
> Le Bijou - Hull 719
>
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Message: 62
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:49:12 -0400
From: Guy Henry <ghenry at ebmail.gdeb.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Get a Travasak, you'll love it. Check prices at RV supply stores they're
typically cheaper.
Guy
MoonShadow
# 115
Tim <chillinonahd at yahoo.com>
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Can anyone tell me what type of bedding best fits (full, queen, etc) the
fore and aft berths? If not, any suggestions of website to order bedding.
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Message: 63
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:59:34 -0400
From: "Quentin Murphy" <qmurphy at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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This weekend I noticed the bedding to be wet around the edges in the aft
cabin. I checked underneath (water pump, stuffing box etc) and all were ok.
When the engine was running I noticed the anti-siphon loop to be slowly
leaking in the cockpit locker. I will repair this tomorrow (probably a
stuck rubber part). There was water in the bottom of this locker. Can this
water leak from here to the wooden teak trim rail above the bedding on the
port side of the aft cabin. Is there a seam behind this teak rail? I
noticed the bottom of the cockpit locker is all one piece with no seams.
There is a hole for the hose leading to this anti-siphon loop, but that
appears lower than the teak rail in a aft cabin. I noticed tiny amounts a
water to drip down from this teak rail. The other possibility for the
wetness in this cabin is condensation from the icebox, but there was more
water than that I would think.
Quentin
Celtic Knot #667
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:59 AM
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Subject: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
Yep, have checked the tanks. They are empty.
I have isolated the 2 deep bilge bowls. The one with the bilge pump and the
on just forward. These 2 areas fill with water over night. Tonight I will
plug the drain hole from the forward area and try to see if it is just the
center that accumulates the water.
Randy
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Message: 64
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:10:45 -0400
From: "Peter Clancy" <SAILORPETE at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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The 'Whale' water fittings used on earlier C320's are prone to crack or break under pressure. I've had three such instances. In each case we were motoring or sailing and didn't know the break had caused the water pump to completely empty one (or both) tanks into the bilge. This happened with both fittings under the head sink and one fitting at the stern shower.
Peter Clancy
AROBAN C#20 3222
Miami, FL
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From: Dave Sparks<mailto:dlsparks at gmail.com>
To: C320-List<mailto:C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
Have you eliminated the possibility that this is water from the water tanks.
Recently, I had a lot of water in the bilge and, to make a long story short,
finally discovered that this did not occur unless the water pressure switch
was on. In my case, the source was a loose connection on the cold water line
to the faucet in the head. This slow leak emptied both water tanks over the
course of a couple of days.
Dave Sparks
En Passant - # 933
On 5/31/06, Charles Greenwell <CGreenwell at sparusa.com<mailto:CGreenwell at sparusa.com>> wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry
> bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a lot of
> water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it
> out. The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a hose I
> shot water into the line to prime the pump and behold?. It was now
> working. I pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
>
> The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in
> it, just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I hit the
> manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This
> time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also dry. I
> removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured they
> were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
>
> Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft
> areas that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both completely
> dry, from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I checked the
> sides of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
>
> This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the
> keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first time it
> had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no evidence of
> any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was
> launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after
> launching.
>
> Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts
> ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching
> the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
>
> Randy
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Message: 65
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:28:51 -0700
From: Pat Moriarty <patm at psiurethanes.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I had the rear water tank fitting break at the 90
elbow under the fuel filter and shifter cable,
what a pain to replace and why did an American
company Catalina use 15mm fittings?
Pat
SEXUAL HEELING #130At 07:10 AM 6/1/2006, you wrote:
>The 'Whale' water fittings used on earlier
>C320's are prone to crack or break
>under pressure. I've had three such instances.
>In each case we were motoring or sailing and
>didn't know the break had caused the water pump
>to completely empty one (or both) tanks into the
>bilge. This happened with both fittings under
>the head sink and one fitting at the stern shower.
>
>Peter Clancy
>AROBAN C#20 3222
>Miami, FL
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
> From: Dave Sparks<mailto:dlsparks at gmail.com>
> To: C320-List<mailto:C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
>
>
> Have you eliminated the possibility that this
> is water from the water tanks.
> Recently, I had a lot of water in the bilge
> and, to make a long story short,
> finally discovered that this did not occur unless the water pressure switch
> was on. In my case, the source was a loose
> connection on the cold water line
> to the faucet in the head. This slow leak emptied both water tanks over the
> course of a couple of days.
> Dave Sparks
> En Passant - # 933
>
>
> On 5/31/06, Charles Greenwell
> <CGreenwell at sparusa.com<mailto:CGreenwell at sparusa.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry
> > bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and
> upon returning noticed a lot of
> > water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it
> > out. The pump would run but it was not
> pumping the water so, using a hose I
> > shot water into the line to prime the pump and behold?. It was now
> > working. I pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
> >
> > The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in
> > it, just shy of the point where the float
> would turn the pump on. I hit the
> > manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This
> > time a made sure all of the sides flowing
> in to the bilge were also dry. I
> > removed the sole plates forward and aft of
> the bilge and also ensured they
> > were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
> >
> > Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft
> > areas that feed it to see were it was
> coming from. They are both completely
> > dry, from the speedo aft and the engine
> compartment forward.. I checked the
> > sides of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
> >
> > This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the
> > keel. The boat was on the hard for the
> winter. This was the first time it
> > had been out of the water for that long of
> a period. I saw no evidence of
> > any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was
> > launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after
> > launching.
> >
> > Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts
> > ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching
> > the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
> >
> > Randy
> > Le Bijou ? Hull 719
> >
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Message: 66
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:47:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <20060601144745.12317.qmail at web55315.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
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Just got my sheets back from the Tufted Topper people and they seem to
be very acceptable (we only put them on the boat last weekend and used
them (at least the bottom sheet) for one night).
All-in-all, The Admiral and I are very happy with the Tufted Topper
(that we bought two years ago) and the fitted sheets from Tufted Topper
that we use in the after berth on the Alchemist
Steve
Alchemist #909
--- Jeffrey Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For those who have ordered the Tufted Topper
> (www.tuftedtopper.com), you
> can send them a pair of new unwashed king sized flat sheets, and
> they'll sew
> them into a custom fitted bottom sheet and a pocketed top sheet for
> you.
> They charge somewhere around $75 per sheet set to modify.
>
> -Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Fahrer [mailto:bfahrer at lisurveyor.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:28 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
>
> We are able to use a fitted queen size sheet on the mattress in the
> aft
> cabin.
> BARRY --... ...--
> TRANSIT C-320 #-126
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim" <chillinonahd at yahoo.com>
> To: "C320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:25 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] Bedding
>
>
> > Can anyone tell me what type of bedding best fits (full, queen,
> etc) the
> > fore and aft berths? If not, any suggestions of website to order
> bedding.
> > Thanks !!
> >
> > ---------------------------------
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> Great
> > rates starting at 1¢/min.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 67
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 07:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Magennis <magenns at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <20060601145256.83567.qmail at web55308.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
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When the Alchemist was delivered, there was no cap on the anti-siphon
loop for the raw water cooling. We sprayed a lot of water into the
lazarette and hence in a short period of time (filled the bilge on the
check out sail with the dealer).
Yours could just be leaking. It would make an interesting mess.
Steve
Alchemist #909
--- Quentin Murphy <qmurphy at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> This weekend I noticed the bedding to be wet around the edges in the
> aft
> cabin. I checked underneath (water pump, stuffing box etc) and all
> were ok.
> When the engine was running I noticed the anti-siphon loop to be
> slowly
> leaking in the cockpit locker. I will repair this tomorrow (probably
> a
> stuck rubber part). There was water in the bottom of this locker.
> Can this
> water leak from here to the wooden teak trim rail above the bedding
> on the
> port side of the aft cabin. Is there a seam behind this teak rail? I
> noticed the bottom of the cockpit locker is all one piece with no
> seams.
> There is a hole for the hose leading to this anti-siphon loop, but
> that
> appears lower than the teak rail in a aft cabin. I noticed tiny
> amounts a
> water to drip down from this teak rail. The other possibility for
> the
> wetness in this cabin is condensation from the icebox, but there was
> more
> water than that I would think.
>
> Quentin
> Celtic Knot #667
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Charles
> Greenwell
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:59 AM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
>
>
> Yep, have checked the tanks. They are empty.
>
> I have isolated the 2 deep bilge bowls. The one with the bilge pump
> and the
> on just forward. These 2 areas fill with water over night. Tonight
> I will
> plug the drain hole from the forward area and try to see if it is
> just the
> center that accumulates the water.
>
> Randy
>
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Message: 68
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:06:24 -0700
From: <frpoint at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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check the hot water heater, it may be leaking
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Greenwell" <CGreenwell at sparusa.com>
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry
bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a lot of
water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it out.
The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a hose I shot
water into the line to prime the pump and behold?. It was now working. I
pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in it,
just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I hit the
manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This
time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also dry. I
removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured they
were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft areas
that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both completely dry,
from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I checked the sides
of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the
keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first time it
had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no evidence of
any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was
launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after
launching.
Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts
ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching
the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
Randy
Le Bijou ? Hull 719
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Message: 69
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:07:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Burti <cburti at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <20060601150703.12704.qmail at web37211.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I have a small, occasional leak in the same place, no
leak in the locker and have not been abble to trace
the source in three years as it never leaks when I am
on the boat.
--- Quentin Murphy <qmurphy at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> This weekend I noticed the bedding to be wet around
> the edges in the aft
> cabin. I checked underneath (water pump, stuffing
> box etc) and all were ok.
> When the engine was running I noticed the
> anti-siphon loop to be slowly
> leaking in the cockpit locker. I will repair this
> tomorrow (probably a
> stuck rubber part). There was water in the bottom
> of this locker. Can this
> water leak from here to the wooden teak trim rail
> above the bedding on the
> port side of the aft cabin. Is there a seam behind
> this teak rail? I
> noticed the bottom of the cockpit locker is all one
> piece with no seams.
> There is a hole for the hose leading to this
> anti-siphon loop, but that
> appears lower than the teak rail in a aft cabin. I
> noticed tiny amounts a
> water to drip down from this teak rail. The other
> possibility for the
> wetness in this cabin is condensation from the
> icebox, but there was more
> water than that I would think.
>
> Quentin
> Celtic Knot #667
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf
> Of Charles Greenwell
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:59 AM
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
> Subject: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
>
>
> Yep, have checked the tanks. They are empty.
>
> I have isolated the 2 deep bilge bowls. The one
> with the bilge pump and the
> on just forward. These 2 areas fill with water over
> night. Tonight I will
> plug the drain hole from the forward area and try to
> see if it is just the
> center that accumulates the water.
>
> Randy
>
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>
>
Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867,
Farmville, NC
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Message: 70
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:18:08 -0400
From: "David Cardoza" <dave at avaloncon.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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When the anti-siphon loop was leaking it worked its way down on the ledge
behind the trim piece at the foot of the bed then when I'd heal to
starboard it was like Niagara falls onto to the bedding.
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Quentin Murphy
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:00 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
This weekend I noticed the bedding to be wet around the edges in the aft
cabin. I checked underneath (water pump, stuffing box etc) and all were ok.
When the engine was running I noticed the anti-siphon loop to be slowly
leaking in the cockpit locker. I will repair this tomorrow (probably a
stuck rubber part). There was water in the bottom of this locker. Can this
water leak from here to the wooden teak trim rail above the bedding on the
port side of the aft cabin. Is there a seam behind this teak rail? I
noticed the bottom of the cockpit locker is all one piece with no seams.
There is a hole for the hose leading to this anti-siphon loop, but that
appears lower than the teak rail in a aft cabin. I noticed tiny amounts a
water to drip down from this teak rail. The other possibility for the
wetness in this cabin is condensation from the icebox, but there was more
water than that I would think.
Quentin
Celtic Knot #667
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Charles Greenwell
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:59 AM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
Yep, have checked the tanks. They are empty.
I have isolated the 2 deep bilge bowls. The one with the bilge pump and the
on just forward. These 2 areas fill with water over night. Tonight I will
plug the drain hole from the forward area and try to see if it is just the
center that accumulates the water.
Randy
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Message: 71
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:21:55 -0400
From: "David Cardoza" <dave at avaloncon.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Lamp for deck light
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Over the winter someone must have needed the lamp for the deck light on my
stored mast more than I did. Not having the original does anyone know what
the replacement bulb is that goes there?
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Steve Magennis
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:48 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
Just got my sheets back from the Tufted Topper people and they seem to
be very acceptable (we only put them on the boat last weekend and used
them (at least the bottom sheet) for one night).
All-in-all, The Admiral and I are very happy with the Tufted Topper
(that we bought two years ago) and the fitted sheets from Tufted Topper
that we use in the after berth on the Alchemist
Steve
Alchemist #909
--- Jeffrey Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For those who have ordered the Tufted Topper
> (www.tuftedtopper.com), you
> can send them a pair of new unwashed king sized flat sheets, and
> they'll sew
> them into a custom fitted bottom sheet and a pocketed top sheet for
> you.
> They charge somewhere around $75 per sheet set to modify.
>
> -Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Fahrer [mailto:bfahrer at lisurveyor.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:28 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
>
> We are able to use a fitted queen size sheet on the mattress in the
> aft
> cabin.
> BARRY --... ...--
> TRANSIT C-320 #-126
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim" <chillinonahd at yahoo.com>
> To: "C320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:25 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] Bedding
>
>
> > Can anyone tell me what type of bedding best fits (full, queen,
> etc) the
> > fore and aft berths? If not, any suggestions of website to order
> bedding.
> > Thanks !!
> >
> > ---------------------------------
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Message: 72
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:27:17 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stuffing box drips
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID:
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The PSS mechanical seal works very well too. It leaves you with dust in
the bilges as John Langford used to say.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:53 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Stuffing box drips
Traditional packing should be adjusted to drip 1-2
drops per minute at rest. The water serves as a
lubricant to prefent friction wear and overheating. At
rest, this will usually dry before it gets to the
bilge, but will result in water when mooring because
the flow increases when the shaft is turning.
It is fairly common to require adjustment over time
and almost always after being hauled.
Last year I replaced the packing with the goretex
impregnated kind. It can be adjusted to not drip and
yet not overheat as tradtional packing because it is
self-lubricating. Cost-less than $10 at an industrial
supply, slightly more at a marine supply.
Now the only water in my bilge comes from over-filling
the water tanks. I put teflon plumbing tape around the
inspection ports which helps unless I try to fill to
the top and create pressure.
--- Jeffrey Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Nigel's probably correct here. Note that even
> once you get the packing
> seal adjusted properly, don't be surprised if you
> notice water in the bilge
> after a sail. There is an area of the bilge *below*
> the engine pan that can
> hold quite a bit of the water that dripped from the
> shaft seal. This has a
> tendency to slosh forward and make its way to the
> bilge for quite a while
> afterwords. If you get 7 or 8 people and have a
> party on the bow of the
> boat, it'll move into the bilge more quickly.. :)
>
> -Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nigel Price [mailto:nigel.price at bigpond.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:36 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] (no subject)
>
> David,
> I've been in a mild panic since I bought hull
> #1061 new, six months ago,
> because of exactly the problem you describe. I have
> come to the conclusion
> that the egress is through the stern gland, which
> accounts for the rising
> level when under power. I tightened the gland to the
> point that it was dry
> when the engine was idle and the bilges remain
> dry.....until the shaft
> rotates. Guess the water has to go somewhere if it's
> coming through the
> stern gland.
> Cheers,
> Nigel
> Sydney, Australia.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Nolte" <dcnolte at mac.com>
> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:28 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] (no subject)
>
>
> > Got out (finally!) for the first time this
> season over the weekend.
> >
> > When I left, all sections of the bilge under the
> main salon were bone
> > dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor
> section bilge covers
> > off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin
> hatch that keeps the
> > bilge dry.
> >
> > After sailing and then motoring for about 2
> hours we anchored and I
> > checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in
> all sections under
> > the main salon. I noticed while we were at
> anchor that the float
> > switch was activated at least once and moved
> some water out.
> >
> > When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped
> and emptied 5 buckets
> > of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be
> seeping in from the aft-
> > most opening, around (but not through) the tube
> which I believe
> > drains the reefer.
> >
> > I've checked all through-hulls and inspected
> everywhere I could think
> > of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around
> or below the engine or
> > the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored
> around for about half
> > an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of
> wetness coming in
> > around that aft hole.
> >
> > Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas
> where water could be
> > coming from that would drain into the bilge from
> that opening?
> >
> > BTW, This will be our second full season with
> the boat. We love it.
> > And this list is great. We keep the boat in
> Cattail Creek, on the
> > Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one
> river north of
> > Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott
> Thompson (Surprise
> > #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
> >
> > David Nolte
> > Beach House #4
> > (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
Chris Burti
"Commitment"
Catalina 320, #867,
Farmville, NC
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:28:49 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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I expect you would hear the water pump energizing occasionally to keep
the pressure up with a leak in the water line. That would be the
telltale.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sparks
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:51 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
Have you eliminated the possibility that this is water from the water
tanks.
Recently, I had a lot of water in the bilge and, to make a long story
short,
finally discovered that this did not occur unless the water pressure
switch
was on. In my case, the source was a loose connection on the cold water
line
to the faucet in the head. This slow leak emptied both water tanks over
the
course of a couple of days.
Dave Sparks
En Passant - # 933
On 5/31/06, Charles Greenwell <CGreenwell at sparusa.com> wrote:
>
> I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry
> bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a
lot of
> water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it
> out. The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a
hose I
> shot water into the line to prime the pump and behold.... It was now
> working. I pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
>
> The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water
in
> it, just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I
hit the
> manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again.
This
> time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also
dry. I
> removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured
they
> were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
>
> Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft
> areas that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both
completely
> dry, from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I
checked the
> sides of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
>
> This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from
the
> keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first
time it
> had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no
evidence of
> any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was
> launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water
after
> launching.
>
> Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these
bolts
> ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to
launching
> the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
>
> Randy
> Le Bijou - Hull 719
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Message: 74
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:35:47 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
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I have the weep holes and I get condensation. It's normal.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:16 AM
To: kmielen at iwon.com; C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] FW: Re: Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
No
Per Seaward: we need the holes because the instruments
are not sealed and will get moisture due to
condensation. The hole promote an exchange of air that
will permit the moisture to migrate out of the unit.
Can't say it works or not...Mine are fogged whenever
the humidity is high.
--- "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
wrote:
>
> Before I get out the drill....
>
> for those of you with the weep holes drilled in your
> engine pods, are you free from condensation buildup
> inside the engine gauges??
>
>
>
> Karl Mielenhausen
>
> 2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
>
> New Bern, NC
>
> http://members.cox.net/mielen/
>
>
>
> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com [mailto:
> Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com]
>
> To: C320-List at catalina320.com
>
> Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:36:15 -0700
>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.
>
>
>
> Weep holes or not, you will always have condensation
> that inhibit your<br>ability to see your
> instruments. Weep holes are for water runoff, it
> will<br>not prevent condensation or 'fogging up' of
> the instruments....<br><br>cuba libre
> 2<br>------Original Message------<br>From: Irv
> Grunes<br>To: Catalina 320 List<br>ReplyTo: Catalina
> 320 List<br>Sent: May 30, 2006 6:52 AM<br>Subject:
> [C320-list] Engine Pod Weep Hole Vents.<br><br>[Sent
> by: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com ]<br>Does
> anyone know with what hull number the weep holes
> were added?<br>Or where , what size, and how
> many?<br>Or where to look for them.<br>We sometimes
> get moisture in our engine instruments.<br>I thought
> it was a Pod sealing problem.<br>Irv Grunes<br>Isle
> of Wight #851<br><br>-----Original
> Message-----<br>From:
>
C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina3
20.org]On
> Behalf Of Chris Burti<br>Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006
> 8:24 AM<br>To: C320-List<br>Subject: Re: [C320-list]
> Voltage
> Gauge for Engine Controls Pod<br><br><br>I talked
> with Seaward Tech Service about this issue<br>just
> last week. They are not sealed instruments.
> They<br>actually vent...save your money, make sure
> your<br>instrument pod has weep holes in the bottom
> to help<br>dry our. Catalina changed the pod to add
> the holes<br>according to Seaward, but I don't know
> when.<br><br>--- "McCullough, Kirk"
> <kirk.mccullough at btg.com><br>wrote:<br><br>> Dick
> thanks: its more a mechanical issue. The gauge<br>>
> still works its just<br>> that the bezel is
> separating from the gauge body and<br>> it gets
> moisture in<br>> all the time. I want to replace
> it.<br>><br>> Kirk L. McCullough<br>> Analytical
> Sales Mgr<br>><br>><br>> -----Original
> Message-----<br>> From:
> C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>>
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf<br>> Of Richard A.<br>> Walker<br>> Sent:
> Monday, May 29, 2006 2:08 PM<br>> To:
> 'C320-List'<br>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Voltage
> Gauge for Engine<br>>
> Controls Pod<br>><br>> Here it is Kirk. Have you
> checked the leads with a<br>> voltmeter? It
> may<br>> be<br>> the connection.<br>><br>>
> http://www.seawardproducts.com<br>><br>>
> Cheers,<br>><br>> Dick Walker<br>> C-320 (687)
> WindWalker II<br>> 740 Olive Ave.<br>> Coronado, CA
> 92118-2136<br>> 619.435.8986<br>><br>><br>>
> -----Original Message-----<br>> From:
> C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<br>>
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On
> Behalf<br>> Of McCullough, Kirk<br>> Sent: Monday,
> May 29, 2006 2:04 PM<br>> To: C320-List<br>>
> Subject: [C320-list] Voltage Gauge for Engine<br>>
> Controls Pod<br>><br>> Does anyone recall off hand
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Message: 75
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:50:58 -0400
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
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A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less than
10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off going
wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e. running
angles ??
Mike
Seychelle, #141
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Message: 76
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 09:59:53 -0700
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
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I find sailing at 165 relative much better than 180 to the wind. The POLAR
chart on the web site confirms that.
My furling main with a lose footed main that allows me to let out the foot
of the sail helps in a down wind situation. I also do not have the worry of
an unintentional jibe.
Cheers,
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less than
10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off going
wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e. running
angles ??
Mike
Seychelle, #141
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Message: 77
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:20:35 -0400
From: Ben Waltuck <benw at sun.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Masthead light bulb
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My masthead light isn't working, and I assume that it's either a burned
out bulb or corroded contacts around the bulb (as was the case with my
perko combination deck/steaming light)..
I'm planning on heading up the mast to check it out this weekend, but
I'd like to bring a replacement bulb up with me so that I don't have to
climb twice..
BUT, I can't find any documentation that lists what the masthead light is.
With a pair of binoculars from the dock, it appears to be the Perko
All-Round light on p.586 of the west marine catalog
the light is perko#0200swbdp1 and the replacement bulb is model 4810826
Can anyone confirm that this is the correct light and bulb so save me an
extra trip up the mast?
Thanks!
Ben Waltuck
Getaway #352 (1996)
>
>
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Message: 78
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:36:52 -0400
From: "Chris Holt" <oldman1030 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Alright Dick,
You had to have seen this coming.
Where is the POLAR chart on the 320 site. I couldn't find anything but an
article that has this quote:
<Begin Quote>
"I've never seen a POLAR chart on a C320, that basically shows you what's
the boat's performance on all angles of the wind"
<End Quote>
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>I find sailing at 165 relative much better than 180 to the wind. The POLAR
> chart on the web site confirms that.
>
> My furling main with a lose footed main that allows me to let out the foot
> of the sail helps in a down wind situation. I also do not have the worry
> of
> an unintentional jibe.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Lachance, Michael
> B
> (ISD, IT)
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:51 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>
> A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less than
> 10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off going
> wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e. running
> angles ??
> Mike
> Seychelle, #141
>
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Message: 79
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:43:00 -0400
From: Ben Waltuck <benw at sun.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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If you type "polar" in the search field at the top of the main page,
you'll get the link:
http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/album49
Chris Holt wrote:
> Alright Dick,
>
> You had to have seen this coming.
> Where is the POLAR chart on the 320 site. I couldn't find anything
> but an article that has this quote:
>
> <Begin Quote>
> "I've never seen a POLAR chart on a C320, that basically shows you
> what's the boat's performance on all angles of the wind"
> <End Quote>
>
> Chris
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Walker"
> <dickwalker at att.net>
> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>
>
>> I find sailing at 165 relative much better than 180 to the wind. The
>> POLAR
>> chart on the web site confirms that.
>>
>> My furling main with a lose footed main that allows me to let out the
>> foot
>> of the sail helps in a down wind situation. I also do not have the
>> worry of
>> an unintentional jibe.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dick Walker
>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>> 740 Olive Ave.
>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>> 619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Lachance,
>> Michael B
>> (ISD, IT)
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:51 AM
>> To: C320-List
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>
>> A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less than
>> 10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off going
>> wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e. running
>> angles ??
>> Mike
>> Seychelle, #141
>>
>>
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Message: 80
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:50:30 -0400
From: "Chris Holt" <oldman1030 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I did that and I only got the article.
Well anyways thanks for the link.
Chris
#447 Wine Down
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Waltuck" <benw at sun.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
> If you type "polar" in the search field at the top of the main page,
> you'll get the link:
>
> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/album49
>
>
>
>
> Chris Holt wrote:
>
>> Alright Dick,
>>
>> You had to have seen this coming.
>> Where is the POLAR chart on the 320 site. I couldn't find anything but
>> an article that has this quote:
>>
>> <Begin Quote>
>> "I've never seen a POLAR chart on a C320, that basically shows you what's
>> the boat's performance on all angles of the wind"
>> <End Quote>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Walker"
>> <dickwalker at att.net>
>> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>
>>
>>> I find sailing at 165 relative much better than 180 to the wind. The
>>> POLAR
>>> chart on the web site confirms that.
>>>
>>> My furling main with a lose footed main that allows me to let out the
>>> foot
>>> of the sail helps in a down wind situation. I also do not have the
>>> worry of
>>> an unintentional jibe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dick Walker
>>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>>> 740 Olive Ave.
>>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>>> 619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
>>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Lachance,
>>> Michael B
>>> (ISD, IT)
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:51 AM
>>> To: C320-List
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>>
>>> A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less than
>>> 10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off going
>>> wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e. running
>>> angles ??
>>> Mike
>>> Seychelle, #141
>>>
>>>
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>>> notify
>>> the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and
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>>>
>>>
>>
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Message: 81
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:54:23 EDT
From: BAdams3491 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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Can't say I have ever heard of a C320 leaking at the keel bolts. Could be
the stuffing box, especially after being on the hard for a long time.
Bert
At Ease
#442
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Message: 82
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:57:36 -0400
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I've attached the polar to this email, hopefully the list server support
attachments
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Holt
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:51 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
I did that and I only got the article.
Well anyways thanks for the link.
Chris
#447 Wine Down
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Waltuck" <benw at sun.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
> If you type "polar" in the search field at the top of the main page,
> you'll get the link:
>
> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/album49
>
>
>
>
> Chris Holt wrote:
>
>> Alright Dick,
>>
>> You had to have seen this coming.
>> Where is the POLAR chart on the 320 site. I couldn't find anything
but
>> an article that has this quote:
>>
>> <Begin Quote>
>> "I've never seen a POLAR chart on a C320, that basically shows you
what's
>> the boat's performance on all angles of the wind"
>> <End Quote>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Walker"
>> <dickwalker at att.net>
>> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>
>>
>>> I find sailing at 165 relative much better than 180 to the wind.
The
>>> POLAR
>>> chart on the web site confirms that.
>>>
>>> My furling main with a lose footed main that allows me to let out
the
>>> foot
>>> of the sail helps in a down wind situation. I also do not have the
>>> worry of
>>> an unintentional jibe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dick Walker
>>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>>> 740 Olive Ave.
>>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>>> 619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
>>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Lachance,
>>> Michael B
>>> (ISD, IT)
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:51 AM
>>> To: C320-List
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>>
>>> A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less
than
>>> 10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off
going
>>> wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e.
running
>>> angles ??
>>> Mike
>>> Seychelle, #141
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 83
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:09:04 -0400
From: "Chris Holt" <oldman1030 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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It doesn't support attachments.
However, I did get the Polar chart from Ben's link.
Thanks,
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
I've attached the polar to this email, hopefully the list server support
attachments
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Holt
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:51 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
I did that and I only got the article.
Well anyways thanks for the link.
Chris
#447 Wine Down
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Waltuck" <benw at sun.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
> If you type "polar" in the search field at the top of the main page,
> you'll get the link:
>
> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/album49
>
>
>
>
> Chris Holt wrote:
>
>> Alright Dick,
>>
>> You had to have seen this coming.
>> Where is the POLAR chart on the 320 site. I couldn't find anything
but
>> an article that has this quote:
>>
>> <Begin Quote>
>> "I've never seen a POLAR chart on a C320, that basically shows you
what's
>> the boat's performance on all angles of the wind"
>> <End Quote>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Walker"
>> <dickwalker at att.net>
>> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>
>>
>>> I find sailing at 165 relative much better than 180 to the wind.
The
>>> POLAR
>>> chart on the web site confirms that.
>>>
>>> My furling main with a lose footed main that allows me to let out
the
>>> foot
>>> of the sail helps in a down wind situation. I also do not have the
>>> worry of
>>> an unintentional jibe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dick Walker
>>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>>> 740 Olive Ave.
>>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>>> 619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
>>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Lachance,
>>> Michael B
>>> (ISD, IT)
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:51 AM
>>> To: C320-List
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>>
>>> A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less
than
>>> 10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off
going
>>> wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e.
running
>>> angles ??
>>> Mike
>>> Seychelle, #141
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Message: 84
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:12:02 -0700
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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My link worked.........
Cheers,
Dick Walker
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Holt
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:51 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
I did that and I only got the article.
Well anyways thanks for the link.
Chris
#447 Wine Down
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Waltuck" <benw at sun.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
> If you type "polar" in the search field at the top of the main page,
> you'll get the link:
>
> http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/album49
>
>
>
>
> Chris Holt wrote:
>
>> Alright Dick,
>>
>> You had to have seen this coming.
>> Where is the POLAR chart on the 320 site. I couldn't find anything but
>> an article that has this quote:
>>
>> <Begin Quote>
>> "I've never seen a POLAR chart on a C320, that basically shows you what's
>> the boat's performance on all angles of the wind"
>> <End Quote>
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard A. Walker"
>> <dickwalker at att.net>
>> To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>
>>
>>> I find sailing at 165 relative much better than 180 to the wind. The
>>> POLAR
>>> chart on the web site confirms that.
>>>
>>> My furling main with a lose footed main that allows me to let out the
>>> foot
>>> of the sail helps in a down wind situation. I also do not have the
>>> worry of
>>> an unintentional jibe.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dick Walker
>>> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
>>> 740 Olive Ave.
>>> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
>>> 619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
>>> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
>>> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Lachance,
>>> Michael B
>>> (ISD, IT)
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:51 AM
>>> To: C320-List
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
>>>
>>> A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less than
>>> 10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off going
>>> wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e. running
>>> angles ??
>>> Mike
>>> Seychelle, #141
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>
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Message: 85
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:02:49 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <001501c685b6$5d13ab30$6701a8c0 at Altech>
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I usually head off ~20 degrees either side of dead down wind if I don't feel
like focusing on the helm intensely. Especially if the wind isn't steady.
Without a pole keeping the genoa full wing&wing is a chore unless the
*apparent* wind is over 8-10kts.
When going wing&wing, I sail *slightly* by the lee with the main way out to
keep the genoa filled and pulling, which adds to the accidental jibe risk,
but keeps the genoa from flopping around.
I seem to needs flat seas (or the apparent > 10kts) also to keep the genoa
from bouncing around. My autopilot doesn't do a good enough job at holding
an arrow straight course required to pull off wing&wing.
But then, I only have a 135 genoa.
-Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard A. Walker [mailto:dickwalker at att.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:00 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
I find sailing at 165 relative much better than 180 to the wind. The POLAR
chart on the web site confirms that.
My furling main with a lose footed main that allows me to let out the foot
of the sail helps in a down wind situation. I also do not have the worry of
an unintentional jibe.
Cheers,
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Lachance, Michael B
(ISD, IT)
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:51 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
A question for the racers out there: Down wind in light air (less than
10kts) on a 320 with a pole but no spinnaker, are you better off going
wing & wing straight to mark or broad reaching & jibing, i.e. running
angles ??
Mike
Seychelle, #141
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Message: 86
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:09:12 -0400
From: <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Has anyone ordered the tuffted thing and what do you think?
Adam
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Message: 87
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:13:01 -0400
From: <esquirecatering at rcn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] down wind in light air
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <388408d1.c1b889ba.8246900 at ms07.lnh.mail.rcn.net>
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Orlando has one polar chart, I have another. That makes us bi-
polar.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Adam
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Message: 88
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:13:24 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Hare" <catalina at thehares.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Polar Charts
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <001901c685b7$d79f2b80$6701a8c0 at Altech>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
Sorry, The photo album's search mechanism isn't hooked into the main search
box anymore. It used to, but after I closed some security holes recently, I
needed to update the search mechanism, and I haven't yet.
http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/C320Polars
To search the photo albums, you click on the "Photo Gallery" camera icon in
the upper right corner, then you'll see that a new search bar appear for
the photo gallery below the camera icon an inch or so...
-Jeff
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Message: 89
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 16:32:30 -0500
From: "Dave Sparks" <dlsparks at gmail.com>
Subject: [C320-list] anchors
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Message-ID:
<13c0882f0606011432u789e631bs371fe2395b8ba5b1 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
In April there was a discussion about anchors on the list. I gave an
endorsement for the Delta 35 based on my experience with it during Hurricane
Ivan. At that time, I did not have that much experience using it in
non-hurricane conditions. Now, I have more data. At this point in 2006 I
have spent 28 nights at anchor in locations along the northern Gulf coast
(Mobile Bay to Apalachicola Bay). The Delta 35 has set the first time each
time I anchored and (knock on wood) remained set in wind conditions ranging
from calm to 35 knots. I have 15 ft of 5/16 chain attached. Bottom
conditions were almost always "good" mud or sand. To be honest, I should add
that I have avoided two anchorages that I know have soft mud, locations
where I have had other anchors (Danforth, Fortress) drag.
To summarize, I am very pleased with the D35 as an everyday anchor.
David Sparks
En Passant - #933
--
David Sparks
dlsparks at gmail.com
www.dbsparks.com
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Message: 90
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 18:14:55 -0500
From: "Larry Barr" <larry142 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <FNEHJNHLBDBKOMLIIGEEGECBCJAA.larry142 at cox.net>
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Using the polar chart is the wind speed in knots referring to true or
apparent wind?
Larry
Great Scot # 924
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Hare
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:13 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Polar Charts
Hi,
Sorry, The photo album's search mechanism isn't hooked into the main search
box anymore. It used to, but after I closed some security holes recently, I
needed to update the search mechanism, and I haven't yet.
http://www.catalina320.com/gallery/C320Polars
To search the photo albums, you click on the "Photo Gallery" camera icon in
the upper right corner, then you'll see that a new search bar appear for
the photo gallery below the camera icon an inch or so...
-Jeff
------------------------------
Message: 91
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:06:37 -0700
From: Jean-Pierre Salzmann <jps1031 at pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <edcd3d5e1d510e88b3b624b89c1a9275 at pacbell.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
On Jun 1, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Larry Barr wrote:
> Using the polar chart is the wind speed in knots referring to true or
> apparent wind?
Apparent -- like almost anything i sailing
JP Salzmann
OM
C320 #880
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Message: 92
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:23:55 -0700
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID: <005901c685da$d6380c80$5eb3fea9 at D53ZJN31>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
apparent
Cheers,
Dick Walker
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre Salzmann
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 5:07 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
On Jun 1, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Larry Barr wrote:
> Using the polar chart is the wind speed in knots referring to true or
> apparent wind?
Apparent -- like almost anything i sailing
JP Salzmann
OM
C320 #880
------------------------------
Message: 93
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 21:21:34 -0400
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Message-ID:
<2FD81947FC224C409139F4ACBCA2027D0105845E at AD1HFDEXC309.ad1.prod>
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No way guys, it's got be true wind speed. Btw, I was taught to use
apparent upwind and true downwind
Mike
Seychelle, #141
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre
Salzmann
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:07 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
On Jun 1, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Larry Barr wrote:
> Using the polar chart is the wind speed in knots referring to true or
> apparent wind?
Apparent -- like almost anything i sailing
JP Salzmann
OM
C320 #880
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Message: 94
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 18:44:43 -0700
From: <crashley at gte.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
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I agree only apparent wind makes sense.
CRA
Rosebus #882
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
No way guys, it's got be true wind speed. Btw, I was taught to use
apparent upwind and true downwind
Mike
Seychelle, #141
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre
Salzmann
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:07 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
On Jun 1, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Larry Barr wrote:
> Using the polar chart is the wind speed in knots referring to true or
> apparent wind?
Apparent -- like almost anything i sailing
JP Salzmann
OM
C320 #880
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Message: 95
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 21:53:24 -0400
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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In everything I've read (see NorthU Trim, 6th Edition page 197 for
example) polars are based on TRUE wind.
Let me re-phrase the original question: Does anyone have a table that
shows for a given wind speed, what is the true and apparent wind angles
for optimum downwind and upwind VMG? (No, the polar does not contain
this information)
Mike
Seychelle, #141
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of crashley at gte.net
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:45 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
I agree only apparent wind makes sense.
CRA
Rosebus #882
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
No way guys, it's got be true wind speed. Btw, I was taught to use
apparent upwind and true downwind
Mike
Seychelle, #141
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre
Salzmann
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:07 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
On Jun 1, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Larry Barr wrote:
> Using the polar chart is the wind speed in knots referring to true or
> apparent wind?
Apparent -- like almost anything i sailing
JP Salzmann
OM
C320 #880
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Message: 96
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 19:02:07 -0700
From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
To: "Catalina 320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Michael,
You are correct....
cuba libre 2
--------------------------
Regards,
OD
Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
----- Original Message -----
From: C320-List-bounces
Sent: 06/01/2006 06:53 PM
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
In everything I've read (see NorthU Trim, 6th Edition page 197 for
example) polars are based on TRUE wind.
Let me re-phrase the original question: Does anyone have a table that
shows for a given wind speed, what is the true and apparent wind angles
for optimum downwind and upwind VMG? (No, the polar does not contain
this information)
Mike
Seychelle, #141
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of crashley at gte.net
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:45 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
I agree only apparent wind makes sense.
CRA
Rosebus #882
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
No way guys, it's got be true wind speed. Btw, I was taught to use
apparent upwind and true downwind
Mike
Seychelle, #141
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre
Salzmann
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:07 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
On Jun 1, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Larry Barr wrote:
> Using the polar chart is the wind speed in knots referring to true or
> apparent wind?
Apparent -- like almost anything i sailing
JP Salzmann
OM
C320 #880
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Message: 97
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:16:12 +1000
From: "MICHAEL COLE" <miodio at bigpond.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
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Quentin-----it may be that you have some leakage through the emergency tiller access in the cockpit floor. If any of the screws are lloose in the large hanging cover on the "ceiling" of the aft cabin it then leaks thru onto the bedding below---it happened to me
Mike Cole------"Mio Dio" #421
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Message: 98
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 22:15:42 -0500
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
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FYI
Despite the fact that it didn't generate much response, I'll answer my own question so the info is archived.
According to a couple of reliable sources, the Waeco/Alder Barbour Cold Machine compressor is fairly bullet proof. On the other hand, the older electronic control units are very prone to failure. Mine was dated 1997. After running through several fuses in rapid succession, I took the controller apart and found a portion of the foil on the PC board was burnt and looked to have been shorted to one of the fan terminals. I ordered a new controller for $200 dollars. The local Catalina dealer said that up until 4 years ago he was replacing controllers at a rate of 2 to 3 a year.
JeffC
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From: Jeff Church
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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Alder Barbour Cold Machine
My refrigerator stopped working! The compressor is silent and the fan doesn't run. I'm getting 12 volts at the electronic control module on the compressor and the thermostat checks out, so I suspect the module is bad. One last hope would be that there is a blown fuse on the module. The diagram of the module in my copy of the instructions is a blurry, useless mess, but I did find a gray rectangular piece on the bottom of the module that could be covering a fuse. It didn't come off easily and I don't want to force it without knowing what it is. If someone knows what it is or can check their copy of the instructions I would appreciate the help before I pry (break) off the gray piece.
Thanks in advance.
JeffC
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Message: 99
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 05:55:56 -0400
From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] (no subject)
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Jon - I had the same problem on Sea Shadow with the hot water heater. I
finally replaced the temperature-pressure valve (about $20 from Seaward) and
problem solved. But you raise a good point for David - when he does the
taste test to see if the water is fresh or salty, he also should do a
temperature check.
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
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David,
Two places to look if you haven't already are the hot water heater(regulator
valve) and your water tanks (inspection ports)...I plumbed a plastic tube to
my heater's regulator which feeds to a plastic soda bottle and get about a
1/3 liter a week when the heater is on or we are motoring for extended
periods....This will drain into the bilge from where the reefer hose drains
(on certain hull #'s)....Good luck..
Regards,
Jon Vez
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From: David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com>
> Got out (finally!) for the first time this season over the weekend.
>
> When I left, all sections of the bilge under the main salon were bone
> dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor section bilge covers
> off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin hatch that keeps the
> bilge dry.
>
> After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we anchored and I
> checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all sections under
> the main salon. I noticed while we were at anchor that the float
> switch was activated at least once and moved some water out.
>
> When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and emptied 5 buckets
> of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be seeping in from the aft-
> most opening, around (but not through) the tube which I believe
> drains the reefer.
>
> I've checked all through-hulls and inspected everywhere I could think
> of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or below the engine or
> the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored around for about half
> an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of wetness coming in
> around that aft hole.
>
> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where water could be
> coming from that would drain into the bilge from that opening?
>
> BTW, This will be our second full season with the boat. We love it.
> And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail Creek, on the
> Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river north of
> Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott Thompson (Surprise
> #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House #4
> (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
>
>
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Message: 100
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:10:22 -0700
From: <crashley at gte.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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I have another theory on this. I always had standing water in the three
lowermost sections of the bilge (where the keel bolts are) which I
attributed to the old style packing glad that I know was dripping a little
fast but I didn't want to mess with the corroded nuts. Last week I put in a
PYI dripless seal which stopped all water coming in thru at the prop shaft,
then I pumped and dried out all three sections and they stayed that way for
several days. After I came back from a rather exhilarating sail last weekend
(went thru some high heeling angles) I noticed a little water in the first
2 foremost bilge sections. I thought "crap" but afterward I realized that
maybe this was some standing water in the bilge line that goes all the way
to the back of the boat and (I assume) must be still filled with water and
maybe the boat movement and heeling caused it dump back into the bilge. I
will test this theory at some point by emptying the bilge line.
CRA
Rosebud #882
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From: "Charles Greenwell" <CGreenwell at sparusa.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry
bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a lot of
water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it out.
The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a hose I shot
water into the line to prime the pump and behold?. It was now working. I
pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in it,
just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I hit the
manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This
time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also dry. I
removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured they
were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft areas
that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both completely dry,
from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I checked the sides
of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the
keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first time it
had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no evidence of
any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was
launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after
launching.
Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts
ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching
the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
Randy
Le Bijou ? Hull 719
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Message: 101
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 09:49:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Karl Mielenhausen _/) " <kmielen at iwon.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Jibe Preventer
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Has anyone rigged a preventer on the boom to minimize the effects of an an accidental jibe?
I was thinking simply of a line from the end of the boom that would be clipped to a cleat on the forward end of the jib sheet track.
Suggestions?
Karl Mielenhausen
2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
New Bern, NC
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Message: 102
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 08:56:31 -0500
From: "Davis, Stanley D. (SHB)" <SDDAVIS at shb.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Jibe Preventer
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I've run a line from the end of the boom to the bow cleat (I don't have a cleat on the track)and it seemed to work fine.
Stan
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Has anyone rigged a preventer on the boom to minimize the effects of an an accidental jibe?
I was thinking simply of a line from the end of the boom that would be clipped to a cleat on the forward end of the jib sheet track.
Suggestions?
Karl Mielenhausen
2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
New Bern, NC
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Message: 103
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 10:35:24 -0500
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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After chasing all the usual sources ('fringe drain, water tanks, air
conditioner, various water heater sources, area under the galley drawers,
packing gland, stern shower hose, emergency tiller access) I discovered that
the stringers are hollow (sometimes they are filled with foam) and can hold
a fair amount of water. Water that has accumulated in the bilge enters or
leaves the ends of the stringers as the boat heels under sail. Water can
also weep into or out of the stringers in the bilge area through small
pin-holes where the stringer is tabbed to the hull. The solution was to
drill a 1/4" hole through the top of the stringers and down through the
foam, and manage to avoid drilling through the hull. Do this to the 2
stringers on either side of the sump that contains the float switch. Then
use an OilBoy pump to remove the water. Now I pump them out every spring
after I finish commissioning the boat and the bilge stays bone dry.
JeffC
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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
I have another theory on this. I always had standing water in the three
lowermost sections of the bilge (where the keel bolts are) which I
attributed to the old style packing glad that I know was dripping a little
fast but I didn't want to mess with the corroded nuts. Last week I put in a
PYI dripless seal which stopped all water coming in thru at the prop shaft,
then I pumped and dried out all three sections and they stayed that way for
several days. After I came back from a rather exhilarating sail last weekend
(went thru some high heeling angles) I noticed a little water in the first
2 foremost bilge sections. I thought "crap" but afterward I realized that
maybe this was some standing water in the bilge line that goes all the way
to the back of the boat and (I assume) must be still filled with water and
maybe the boat movement and heeling caused it dump back into the bilge. I
will test this theory at some point by emptying the bilge line.
CRA
Rosebud #882
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Message: 104
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:57:55 +0000
From: cyrace at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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Jeff, help me out. What are stringers? I believe you're in Waukegan harbor, right? We're neighbors, I'm in North Point.
Cy
Hull #948
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From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
> After chasing all the usual sources ('fringe drain, water tanks, air
> conditioner, various water heater sources, area under the galley drawers,
> packing gland, stern shower hose, emergency tiller access) I discovered that
> the stringers are hollow (sometimes they are filled with foam) and can hold
> a fair amount of water. Water that has accumulated in the bilge enters or
> leaves the ends of the stringers as the boat heels under sail. Water can
> also weep into or out of the stringers in the bilge area through small
> pin-holes where the stringer is tabbed to the hull. The solution was to
> drill a 1/4" hole through the top of the stringers and down through the
> foam, and manage to avoid drilling through the hull. Do this to the 2
> stringers on either side of the sump that contains the float switch. Then
> use an OilBoy pump to remove the water. Now I pump them out every spring
> after I finish commissioning the boat and the bilge stays bone dry.
>
> JeffC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To: "C320-List"
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
>
>
> I have another theory on this. I always had standing water in the three
> lowermost sections of the bilge (where the keel bolts are) which I
> attributed to the old style packing glad that I know was dripping a little
> fast but I didn't want to mess with the corroded nuts. Last week I put in a
> PYI dripless seal which stopped all water coming in thru at the prop shaft,
> then I pumped and dried out all three sections and they stayed that way for
> several days. After I came back from a rather exhilarating sail last weekend
> (went thru some high heeling angles) I noticed a little water in the first
> 2 foremost bilge sections. I thought "crap" but afterward I realized that
> maybe this was some standing water in the bilge line that goes all the way
> to the back of the boat and (I assume) must be still filled with water and
> maybe the boat movement and heeling caused it dump back into the bilge. I
> will test this theory at some point by emptying the bilge line.
>
> CRA
> Rosebud #882
>
>
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Message: 105
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:19:47 -0400
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
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Thanks Orlando
Maybe a little more explanation is in order:
I'm looking VMG targets for optimum upwind and downwind sailing. Here's
an example for a Farr40:
http://www.farr40.org/boatinfo/farr40vpp.pdf
I understand if you supply US Sailing $250 and your boat/sail
measurements they can put a 'performance package' together that includes
similar charts, but I gotta think with over a 1,000 hulls out there
someone should have this info already.
Mike
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:02 PM
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Michael,
You are correct....
cuba libre 2
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OD
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Sent: 06/01/2006 06:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
In everything I've read (see NorthU Trim, 6th Edition page 197 for
example) polars are based on TRUE wind.
Let me re-phrase the original question: Does anyone have a table that
shows for a given wind speed, what is the true and apparent wind angles
for optimum downwind and upwind VMG? (No, the polar does not contain
this information) Mike Seychelle, #141
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I agree only apparent wind makes sense.
CRA
Rosebus #882
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
No way guys, it's got be true wind speed. Btw, I was taught to use
apparent upwind and true downwind Mike Seychelle, #141
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Pierre
Salzmann
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:07 PM
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On Jun 1, 2006, at 4:14 PM, Larry Barr wrote:
> Using the polar chart is the wind speed in knots referring to true or
> apparent wind?
Apparent -- like almost anything i sailing
JP Salzmann
OM
C320 #880
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Message: 106
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:31:27 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
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I finally replaced my Alder Barbour unit with a newer more efficient
system. It draws less current (3.5 vs 5.0 Amps as I recall) and makes
more ice all on a smaller footprint than the Cold Machine. I bought it
from a local commercial refrigeration company that specializes in marine
applications. They do a lot of work with the local commercial fishing
fleets.
My point is that there are much better units out there than the Alder
Barbour unit.
Anyway with my new starting battery and new fridge, I can stay on the
hook for days, making lots of cold beer and still no worries about
starting the engine when its time to move.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
FYI
Despite the fact that it didn't generate much response, I'll answer my
own question so the info is archived.
According to a couple of reliable sources, the Waeco/Alder Barbour Cold
Machine compressor is fairly bullet proof. On the other hand, the older
electronic control units are very prone to failure. Mine was dated 1997.
After running through several fuses in rapid succession, I took the
controller apart and found a portion of the foil on the PC board was
burnt and looked to have been shorted to one of the fan terminals. I
ordered a new controller for $200 dollars. The local Catalina dealer
said that up until 4 years ago he was replacing controllers at a rate of
2 to 3 a year.
JeffC
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From: Jeff Church
To: C320
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Alder Barbour Cold Machine
My refrigerator stopped working! The compressor is silent and the fan
doesn't run. I'm getting 12 volts at the electronic control module on
the compressor and the thermostat checks out, so I suspect the module is
bad. One last hope would be that there is a blown fuse on the module.
The diagram of the module in my copy of the instructions is a blurry,
useless mess, but I did find a gray rectangular piece on the bottom of
the module that could be covering a fuse. It didn't come off easily and
I don't want to force it without knowing what it is. If someone knows
what it is or can check their copy of the instructions I would
appreciate the help before I pry (break) off the gray piece.
Thanks in advance.
JeffC
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Message: 107
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:41:42 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
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I drilled a couple of weeping holes in the aft bulkhead along the bottom
edge of the steering cover, at a angle to ensure any water collecting
there would drain through the bulkhead and into the aft locker. Water
getting into the hanging cover in aft cabin comes from the pedestal
area. A leak around the base of the pedestal for example would end up in
the cover.
The emergency steering access cover can leak, but the water runs
directly into the aft locker through a drain hole. Remove the cover and
pour in some water and watch where it goes.
Both have happened to me but they are easy fixes.
Kirk McCullough
Boomerang #124
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:16 PM
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Subject: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
Quentin-----it may be that you have some leakage through the emergency
tiller access in the cockpit floor. If any of the screws are loose in
the large hanging cover on the "ceiling" of the aft cabin it then leaks
thru onto the bedding below---it happened to me
Mike Cole------"Mio Dio" #421
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Message: 108
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:44:54 -0500
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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Cy,
Yep, we are neighbors. I visit Northpoint a couple times a year when we go
out for a daysail and stop at the restaurant at Skipper Buds.
When you lift the piece of cabin sole that covers the bilge, you're looking
at the hull and the stringers. They are the transverse portion of the hollow
floor timber grid that support the hull and the cabin sole.
JeffC
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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
> Jeff, help me out. What are stringers? I believe you're in Waukegan
> harbor, right? We're neighbors, I'm in North Point.
>
> Cy
> Hull #948
>
> --
> Cy Race
> cyrace at comcast.net
> 847/731-1172
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
>
>> After chasing all the usual sources ('fringe drain, water tanks, air
>> conditioner, various water heater sources, area under the galley drawers,
>> packing gland, stern shower hose, emergency tiller access) I discovered
>> that
>> the stringers are hollow (sometimes they are filled with foam) and can
>> hold
>> a fair amount of water. Water that has accumulated in the bilge enters or
>> leaves the ends of the stringers as the boat heels under sail. Water can
>> also weep into or out of the stringers in the bilge area through small
>> pin-holes where the stringer is tabbed to the hull. The solution was to
>> drill a 1/4" hole through the top of the stringers and down through the
>> foam, and manage to avoid drilling through the hull. Do this to the 2
>> stringers on either side of the sump that contains the float switch. Then
>> use an OilBoy pump to remove the water. Now I pump them out every spring
>> after I finish commissioning the boat and the bilge stays bone dry.
>>
>> JeffC
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> To: "C320-List"
>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
>>
>>
>> I have another theory on this. I always had standing water in the three
>> lowermost sections of the bilge (where the keel bolts are) which I
>> attributed to the old style packing glad that I know was dripping a
>> little
>> fast but I didn't want to mess with the corroded nuts. Last week I put in
>> a
>> PYI dripless seal which stopped all water coming in thru at the prop
>> shaft,
>> then I pumped and dried out all three sections and they stayed that way
>> for
>> several days. After I came back from a rather exhilarating sail last
>> weekend
>> (went thru some high heeling angles) I noticed a little water in the
>> first
>> 2 foremost bilge sections. I thought "crap" but afterward I realized that
>> maybe this was some standing water in the bilge line that goes all the
>> way
>> to the back of the boat and (I assume) must be still filled with water
>> and
>> maybe the boat movement and heeling caused it dump back into the bilge. I
>> will test this theory at some point by emptying the bilge line.
>>
>> CRA
>> Rosebud #882
>>
>>
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Message: 109
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 12:46:04 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Jibe Preventer
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I've done it like Stan did. Taking the line forward rather than straight
down to the jib track works a little better.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Davis, Stanley
D. (SHB)
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 6:57 AM
To: kmielen at iwon.com; C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Jibe Preventer
I've run a line from the end of the boom to the bow cleat (I don't have
a cleat on the track)and it seemed to work fine.
Stan
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Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:49 AM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Jibe Preventer
Has anyone rigged a preventer on the boom to minimize the effects of an
an accidental jibe?
I was thinking simply of a line from the end of the boom that would be
clipped to a cleat on the forward end of the jib sheet track.
Suggestions?
Karl Mielenhausen
2000 C320 Hull#690 "Silver Lining"
New Bern, NC
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Message: 110
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:52:19 -0500
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
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Kirk,
How much did it cost?
Jeff
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To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
I finally replaced my Alder Barbour unit with a newer more efficient
system. It draws less current (3.5 vs 5.0 Amps as I recall) and makes
more ice all on a smaller footprint than the Cold Machine. I bought it
from a local commercial refrigeration company that specializes in marine
applications. They do a lot of work with the local commercial fishing
fleets.
My point is that there are much better units out there than the Alder
Barbour unit.
Anyway with my new starting battery and new fridge, I can stay on the
hook for days, making lots of cold beer and still no worries about
starting the engine when its time to move.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:16 PM
To: C320
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
FYI
Despite the fact that it didn't generate much response, I'll answer my
own question so the info is archived.
According to a couple of reliable sources, the Waeco/Alder Barbour Cold
Machine compressor is fairly bullet proof. On the other hand, the older
electronic control units are very prone to failure. Mine was dated 1997.
After running through several fuses in rapid succession, I took the
controller apart and found a portion of the foil on the PC board was
burnt and looked to have been shorted to one of the fan terminals. I
ordered a new controller for $200 dollars. The local Catalina dealer
said that up until 4 years ago he was replacing controllers at a rate of
2 to 3 a year.
JeffC
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Church
To: C320
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Alder Barbour Cold Machine
My refrigerator stopped working! The compressor is silent and the fan
doesn't run. I'm getting 12 volts at the electronic control module on
the compressor and the thermostat checks out, so I suspect the module is
bad. One last hope would be that there is a blown fuse on the module.
The diagram of the module in my copy of the instructions is a blurry,
useless mess, but I did find a gray rectangular piece on the bottom of
the module that could be covering a fuse. It didn't come off easily and
I don't want to force it without knowing what it is. If someone knows
what it is or can check their copy of the instructions I would
appreciate the help before I pry (break) off the gray piece.
Thanks in advance.
JeffC
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Message: 111
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 13:56:19 -0400
From: "Quentin Murphy" <qmurphy at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Thanks for all the feedback! The drilling of the holes makes sense, as
sooner or later, the pedestal base will leak. In any case, the ceiling
cover in the aft cabin under the pedestal is completely dry. Yesterday, the
bottom of the main cockpit locker was very wet, so I washed it and
completely dried it. I also repaired my engine anti-siphon loop which was
indeed leaking and probably the cause of the wet cockpit locker floor. An
hour later after completely drying the port end of the bed area (the
mattress is removed), there was another sizable puddle (maybe ? cup). It
was leaking down from the teak trim rail close to the back of the fridge.
There could still be water clinging to the underside of this cockpit locker
floor that previously leaked through the cockpit floor at the anti-siphon
hose holes. I'm hoping by this afternoon, it has dried out and this will be
the end of the leaking problems. Could there be a condensate leak from the
charged lines as they enter the fridge enclosure on its way to the
evaporator coil? Can't see that producing that amount of water? Anyway,
I'll know more this evening when I attempt to set up the bed again. Looking
forward to a dry weekend, at least inside the boat!
Quentin
Celtic Knot #667
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of McCullough, Kirk
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:42 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
I drilled a couple of weeping holes in the aft bulkhead along the bottom
edge of the steering cover, at a angle to ensure any water collecting
there would drain through the bulkhead and into the aft locker. Water
getting into the hanging cover in aft cabin comes from the pedestal
area. A leak around the base of the pedestal for example would end up in
the cover.
The emergency steering access cover can leak, but the water runs
directly into the aft locker through a drain hole. Remove the cover and
pour in some water and watch where it goes.
Both have happened to me but they are easy fixes.
Kirk McCullough
Boomerang #124
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL COLE
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:16 PM
To: C320
Subject: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
Quentin-----it may be that you have some leakage through the emergency
tiller access in the cockpit floor. If any of the screws are loose in
the large hanging cover on the "ceiling" of the aft cabin it then leaks
thru onto the bedding below---it happened to me
Mike Cole------"Mio Dio" #421
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Message: 112
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:19:28 -0400
From: "David Cardoza" <dave at avaloncon.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
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Congratulations on finding the leak I'd expect that you still have about 1/2
gal or so sloshing around in there. When it happened to me I took off the
strip and sponged out quit a bit more water. Then got one last good amount
of water in the rear cabin after healing during a sail.
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Quentin Murphy
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 1:56 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
Thanks for all the feedback! The drilling of the holes makes sense, as
sooner or later, the pedestal base will leak. In any case, the ceiling
cover in the aft cabin under the pedestal is completely dry. Yesterday, the
bottom of the main cockpit locker was very wet, so I washed it and
completely dried it. I also repaired my engine anti-siphon loop which was
indeed leaking and probably the cause of the wet cockpit locker floor. An
hour later after completely drying the port end of the bed area (the
mattress is removed), there was another sizable puddle (maybe ? cup). It
was leaking down from the teak trim rail close to the back of the fridge.
There could still be water clinging to the underside of this cockpit locker
floor that previously leaked through the cockpit floor at the anti-siphon
hose holes. I'm hoping by this afternoon, it has dried out and this will be
the end of the leaking problems. Could there be a condensate leak from the
charged lines as they enter the fridge enclosure on its way to the
evaporator coil? Can't see that producing that amount of water? Anyway,
I'll know more this evening when I attempt to set up the bed again. Looking
forward to a dry weekend, at least inside the boat!
Quentin
Celtic Knot #667
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com]On Behalf Of McCullough, Kirk
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:42 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
I drilled a couple of weeping holes in the aft bulkhead along the bottom
edge of the steering cover, at a angle to ensure any water collecting
there would drain through the bulkhead and into the aft locker. Water
getting into the hanging cover in aft cabin comes from the pedestal
area. A leak around the base of the pedestal for example would end up in
the cover.
The emergency steering access cover can leak, but the water runs
directly into the aft locker through a drain hole. Remove the cover and
pour in some water and watch where it goes.
Both have happened to me but they are easy fixes.
Kirk McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of MICHAEL COLE
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:16 PM
To: C320
Subject: [C320-list] Water in bilge and keel bolts
Quentin-----it may be that you have some leakage through the emergency
tiller access in the cockpit floor. If any of the screws are loose in
the large hanging cover on the "ceiling" of the aft cabin it then leaks
thru onto the bedding below---it happened to me
Mike Cole------"Mio Dio" #421
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Message: 113
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:50:49 -0400
From: "Tony Kalish" <mapmanMD at Verizon.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Leaking Galley faucet
To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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When I turn on the fresh water pump, I get a slow, steady leak from the cold
water faucet in the galley sink. This faucet is made by "Grohe" and I've
tried West Marine and Fawcetts in Annapolis for parts. No one has been able
to help. It's a strange arrangement. I can't figure out how to remove the
stem. Anyone had a similar problem and a fix?
Thanks.
Tony
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Message: 114
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 16:53:43 -0400
From: Scott Thompson <sthompson at toad.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] (no subject)
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Hi Dave:
Engine raw water hose did this to me last year. That pump can fill the
bilges FAST! Of course if it's really bad then the engine overheats at
the same time.
Scott
Chris Burti wrote:
> First guess would be your hot water heater pressure
> relief valve. Assumming you have one and assuming the
> heat exchanger is hooked to your engine.
>
> Second guess, one of your engine raw water hoses.
>
> --- David Nolte <dcnolte at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> Got out (finally!) for the first time this season
>> over the weekend.
>>
>> When I left, all sections of the bilge under the
>> main salon were bone
>> dry. When I'm not on the boat I leave the floor
>> section bilge covers
>> off and I have a solar fan in the main cabin hatch
>> that keeps the
>> bilge dry.
>>
>> After sailing and then motoring for about 2 hours we
>> anchored and I
>> checked the bilge and found 1" - 3" of water in all
>> sections under
>> the main salon. I noticed while we were at anchor
>> that the float
>> switch was activated at least once and moved some
>> water out.
>>
>> When I retuned home the next day, I hand pumped and
>> emptied 5 buckets
>> of water out of the bilge. Water seemed to be
>> seeping in from the aft-
>> most opening, around (but not through) the tube
>> which I believe
>> drains the reefer.
>>
>> I've checked all through-hulls and inspected
>> everywhere I could think
>> of. Everywhere is bone dry. No moisture around or
>> below the engine or
>> the shaft. I just took the boat out and motored
>> around for about half
>> an hour. A couple times I noticed a tiny bit of
>> wetness coming in
>> around that aft hole.
>>
>> Does this sound familiar to anyone? Any ideas where
>> water could be
>> coming from that would drain into the bilge from
>> that opening?
>>
>> BTW, This will be our second full season with the
>> boat. We love it.
>> And this list is great. We keep the boat in Cattail
>> Creek, on the
>> Magothy River, which is on the Chesapeake, one river
>> north of
>> Annapolis. We're in the same community as Scott
>> Thompson (Surprise
>> #653), whose boat is about 100 yards from us.
>>
>> David Nolte
>> Beach House #4
>> (the oldest boat I've seen on this list!)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Chris Burti
> "Commitment"
> Catalina 320, #867,
> Farmville, NC
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Message: 115
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:26:06 -0700
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Leaking Galley faucet
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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You might want to call: http://www.groheamerica.com
GROHE AMERICA, INC.
241 Covington Drive
Bloomingdale, IL 60108
U.S.A.
Phone: 630-582-7711
FAX: 630-582-7722
I ordered 2 replacement dispensing heads at the end of the neck. The
original was getting filled with lime and fiberglass.
Cheers,
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
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From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Tony Kalish
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 1:51 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Leaking Galley faucet
When I turn on the fresh water pump, I get a slow, steady leak from the cold
water faucet in the galley sink. This faucet is made by "Grohe" and I've
tried West Marine and Fawcetts in Annapolis for parts. No one has been able
to help. It's a strange arrangement. I can't figure out how to remove the
stem. Anyone had a similar problem and a fix?
Thanks.
Tony
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Message: 116
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:26:13 -0400
From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Lamp for deck light
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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This is what I have for the deck light: Perko Cat. No. 68-12V-20W
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of David Cardoza
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:22 AM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: [C320-list] Lamp for deck light
Over the winter someone must have needed the lamp for the deck light on my
stored mast more than I did. Not having the original does anyone know what
the replacement bulb is that goes there?
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Steve Magennis
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:48 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
Just got my sheets back from the Tufted Topper people and they seem to
be very acceptable (we only put them on the boat last weekend and used
them (at least the bottom sheet) for one night).
All-in-all, The Admiral and I are very happy with the Tufted Topper
(that we bought two years ago) and the fitted sheets from Tufted Topper
that we use in the after berth on the Alchemist
Steve
Alchemist #909
--- Jeffrey Hare <catalina at thehares.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For those who have ordered the Tufted Topper
> (www.tuftedtopper.com), you
> can send them a pair of new unwashed king sized flat sheets, and
> they'll sew
> them into a custom fitted bottom sheet and a pocketed top sheet for
> you.
> They charge somewhere around $75 per sheet set to modify.
>
> -Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Fahrer [mailto:bfahrer at lisurveyor.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:28 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
>
> We are able to use a fitted queen size sheet on the mattress in the
> aft
> cabin.
> BARRY --... ...--
> TRANSIT C-320 #-126
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> To: "C320 List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:25 AM
> Subject: [C320-list] Bedding
>
>
> > Can anyone tell me what type of bedding best fits (full, queen,
> etc) the
> > fore and aft berths? If not, any suggestions of website to order
> bedding.
> > Thanks !!
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Message: 117
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:26:27 -0400
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
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Jeff
It was approximately $500 - 600 installed, as I recall. I had it done
along with other work such as a gearbox rebuild, new batteries, a new
dodger etc. so the price was a single line item on a much bigger bill.
Yikes!
Part of the reason for replacing it was the fact that the base it was
mounted on was getting badly corroded, from water collecting on it, I
believe from a very small leak around the propane locker lid. It was
also not working very well, barely made ice anymore. The new unit is
mounted on a stainless steel base, not painted mild steel like cold
machine. It will never rust!
It does work very well and was worth every penny.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
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From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:52 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
Kirk,
How much did it cost?
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
I finally replaced my Alder Barbour unit with a newer more efficient
system. It draws less current (3.5 vs 5.0 Amps as I recall) and makes
more ice all on a smaller footprint than the Cold Machine. I bought it
from a local commercial refrigeration company that specializes in marine
applications. They do a lot of work with the local commercial fishing
fleets.
My point is that there are much better units out there than the Alder
Barbour unit.
Anyway with my new starting battery and new fridge, I can stay on the
hook for days, making lots of cold beer and still no worries about
starting the engine when its time to move.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:16 PM
To: C320
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
FYI
Despite the fact that it didn't generate much response, I'll answer my
own question so the info is archived.
According to a couple of reliable sources, the Waeco/Alder Barbour Cold
Machine compressor is fairly bullet proof. On the other hand, the older
electronic control units are very prone to failure. Mine was dated 1997.
After running through several fuses in rapid succession, I took the
controller apart and found a portion of the foil on the PC board was
burnt and looked to have been shorted to one of the fan terminals. I
ordered a new controller for $200 dollars. The local Catalina dealer
said that up until 4 years ago he was replacing controllers at a rate of
2 to 3 a year.
JeffC
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Church
To: C320
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Alder Barbour Cold Machine
My refrigerator stopped working! The compressor is silent and the fan
doesn't run. I'm getting 12 volts at the electronic control module on
the compressor and the thermostat checks out, so I suspect the module is
bad. One last hope would be that there is a blown fuse on the module.
The diagram of the module in my copy of the instructions is a blurry,
useless mess, but I did find a gray rectangular piece on the bottom of
the module that could be covering a fuse. It didn't come off easily and
I don't want to force it without knowing what it is. If someone knows
what it is or can check their copy of the instructions I would
appreciate the help before I pry (break) off the gray piece.
Thanks in advance.
JeffC
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Message: 118
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 17:47:00 -0400
From: "Tony Kalish" <mapmanMD at Verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Leaking Galley faucet
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Hi Dick:
I called Catalina and they no longer use this manufacturer--surprise!
Googled them and I think my version (probably a 98 or 99) is obsolete.
Nothing quite like them in the catalog. I found a local distributor, open
tomorrow, so I'm going to hope I can find a part.
Thanks.
Tony
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Richard A. Walker
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:26 PM
To: 'C320-List'
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Leaking Galley faucet
You might want to call: http://www.groheamerica.com
GROHE AMERICA, INC.
241 Covington Drive
Bloomingdale, IL 60108
U.S.A.
Phone: 630-582-7711
FAX: 630-582-7722
I ordered 2 replacement dispensing heads at the end of the neck. The
original was getting filled with lime and fiberglass.
Cheers,
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Tony Kalish
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 1:51 PM
To: C320-List at catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Leaking Galley faucet
When I turn on the fresh water pump, I get a slow, steady leak from the cold
water faucet in the galley sink. This faucet is made by "Grohe" and I've
tried West Marine and Fawcetts in Annapolis for parts. No one has been able
to help. It's a strange arrangement. I can't figure out how to remove the
stem. Anyone had a similar problem and a fix?
Thanks.
Tony
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Message: 119
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:53:14 -0400
From: "Allan Field" <Allan.Field at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Costs
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Irv - Under separate cover, I have sent you a copy of the parts list for
installing a Forespar LC 12-22 pole on the mast.
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irv Grunes
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:46 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Costs
Does anyone has any good info as to the cost of a whisker pole for a 135
Genoa.
Want to put it into a long term budget.
Also looking to get an idea as to the total cost for installation of a track
on the mast for storage and adjustment of height on the inboard end.
What pole length have people purchased?
Any estimated pricing and/or parts list would be appreciated.
Irv Grunes
Isle of Wight #851
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Message: 120
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 18:11:52 -0400
From: amshd2 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Costs
To: Allan.Field at comcast.net, C320-List at catalina320.com
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Allen
Could I get a copy. I am looking at doing the same thing.
Tony
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To: 'C320-List' <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 17:53:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Costs
Irv - Under separate cover, I have sent you a copy of the parts list for
installing a Forespar LC 12-22 pole on the mast.
Allan S. Field
Sea Shadow - #808
Columbia, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Irv Grunes
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 7:46 PM
To: C320-List
Subject: [C320-list] Whisker Pole Costs
Does anyone has any good info as to the cost of a whisker pole for a 135
Genoa.
Want to put it into a long term budget.
Also looking to get an idea as to the total cost for installation of a track
on the mast for storage and adjustment of height on the inboard end.
What pole length have people purchased?
Any estimated pricing and/or parts list would be appreciated.
Irv Grunes
Isle of Wight #851
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Message: 121
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:30:14 -0700
From: "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net>
Subject: [C320-list] Dingy Davits
To: "'C320-List'" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I have ordered the Garhauer Davits. I will pass along how they are and the
installation process.
Cheers,
Dick Walker
C-320 (687) WindWalker II
740 Olive Ave.
Coronado, CA 92118-2136
619.435.8986
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Message: 122
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:27:30 -0500
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Kirk,
Thanks for the info. I think the Cold Machines are around $800, so it sounds
like you got a good deal all around.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
Jeff
It was approximately $500 - 600 installed, as I recall. I had it done
along with other work such as a gearbox rebuild, new batteries, a new
dodger etc. so the price was a single line item on a much bigger bill.
Yikes!
Part of the reason for replacing it was the fact that the base it was
mounted on was getting badly corroded, from water collecting on it, I
believe from a very small leak around the propane locker lid. It was
also not working very well, barely made ice anymore. The new unit is
mounted on a stainless steel base, not painted mild steel like cold
machine. It will never rust!
It does work very well and was worth every penny.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:52 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
Kirk,
How much did it cost?
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
I finally replaced my Alder Barbour unit with a newer more efficient
system. It draws less current (3.5 vs 5.0 Amps as I recall) and makes
more ice all on a smaller footprint than the Cold Machine. I bought it
from a local commercial refrigeration company that specializes in marine
applications. They do a lot of work with the local commercial fishing
fleets.
My point is that there are much better units out there than the Alder
Barbour unit.
Anyway with my new starting battery and new fridge, I can stay on the
hook for days, making lots of cold beer and still no worries about
starting the engine when its time to move.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:16 PM
To: C320
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
FYI
Despite the fact that it didn't generate much response, I'll answer my
own question so the info is archived.
According to a couple of reliable sources, the Waeco/Alder Barbour Cold
Machine compressor is fairly bullet proof. On the other hand, the older
electronic control units are very prone to failure. Mine was dated 1997.
After running through several fuses in rapid succession, I took the
controller apart and found a portion of the foil on the PC board was
burnt and looked to have been shorted to one of the fan terminals. I
ordered a new controller for $200 dollars. The local Catalina dealer
said that up until 4 years ago he was replacing controllers at a rate of
2 to 3 a year.
JeffC
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Church
To: C320
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Alder Barbour Cold Machine
My refrigerator stopped working! The compressor is silent and the fan
doesn't run. I'm getting 12 volts at the electronic control module on
the compressor and the thermostat checks out, so I suspect the module is
bad. One last hope would be that there is a blown fuse on the module.
The diagram of the module in my copy of the instructions is a blurry,
useless mess, but I did find a gray rectangular piece on the bottom of
the module that could be covering a fuse. It didn't come off easily and
I don't want to force it without knowing what it is. If someone knows
what it is or can check their copy of the instructions I would
appreciate the help before I pry (break) off the gray piece.
Thanks in advance.
JeffC
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Message: 123
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:46:16 EDT
From: PbyrdC320 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Bedding
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have had the Tufted Topper for 2 years and am thrilled with it. Highly
recommend!
Phil Byrd
Wind Dancer # 93
North Point Marina, Il
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Message: 124
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 20:17:06 -0400
From: "Peter Clancy" <SAILORPETE at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Have had good experience with my 1995 Adler-Barbour cold machine. It runs 24 hrs a day whether at the dock or on the water. Our temps are quite hot in the summertime. The base is fairly well corroded but it just keeps on cooling!
Peter Clancy
AROBAN C320 #222
Miami, FL
----- Original Message -----
From: McCullough, Kirk<mailto:kirk.mccullough at btg.com>
To: C320-List<mailto:C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
Jeff
It was approximately $500 - 600 installed, as I recall. I had it done
along with other work such as a gearbox rebuild, new batteries, a new
dodger etc. so the price was a single line item on a much bigger bill.
Yikes!
Part of the reason for replacing it was the fact that the base it was
mounted on was getting badly corroded, from water collecting on it, I
believe from a very small leak around the propane locker lid. It was
also not working very well, barely made ice anymore. The new unit is
mounted on a stainless steel base, not painted mild steel like cold
machine. It will never rust!
It does work very well and was worth every penny.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.org>
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:52 AM
To: C320-List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
Kirk,
How much did it cost?
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCullough, Kirk" <kirk.mccullough at btg.com<mailto:kirk.mccullough at btg.com>>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com<mailto:C320-List at catalina320.com>>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
I finally replaced my Alder Barbour unit with a newer more efficient
system. It draws less current (3.5 vs 5.0 Amps as I recall) and makes
more ice all on a smaller footprint than the Cold Machine. I bought it
from a local commercial refrigeration company that specializes in marine
applications. They do a lot of work with the local commercial fishing
fleets.
My point is that there are much better units out there than the Alder
Barbour unit.
Anyway with my new starting battery and new fridge, I can stay on the
hook for days, making lots of cold beer and still no worries about
starting the engine when its time to move.
Kirk L. McCullough
Boomerang #124
-----Original Message-----
From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com<mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.org>
[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Church
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:16 PM
To: C320
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Alder Barbour Cold Machine
FYI
Despite the fact that it didn't generate much response, I'll answer my
own question so the info is archived.
According to a couple of reliable sources, the Waeco/Alder Barbour Cold
Machine compressor is fairly bullet proof. On the other hand, the older
electronic control units are very prone to failure. Mine was dated 1997.
After running through several fuses in rapid succession, I took the
controller apart and found a portion of the foil on the PC board was
burnt and looked to have been shorted to one of the fan terminals. I
ordered a new controller for $200 dollars. The local Catalina dealer
said that up until 4 years ago he was replacing controllers at a rate of
2 to 3 a year.
JeffC
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Church
To: C320
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 10:08 PM
Subject: Alder Barbour Cold Machine
My refrigerator stopped working! The compressor is silent and the fan
doesn't run. I'm getting 12 volts at the electronic control module on
the compressor and the thermostat checks out, so I suspect the module is
bad. One last hope would be that there is a blown fuse on the module.
The diagram of the module in my copy of the instructions is a blurry,
useless mess, but I did find a gray rectangular piece on the bottom of
the module that could be covering a fuse. It didn't come off easily and
I don't want to force it without knowing what it is. If someone knows
what it is or can check their copy of the instructions I would
appreciate the help before I pry (break) off the gray piece.
Thanks in advance.
JeffC
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Message: 125
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 20:41:19 -0400
From: "Lachance, Michael B (ISD, IT)" <MLaChance at thehartford.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
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New question: does anyone have IMS measurements for a Catalina 320? After some prolonged surfing I found a free velocity prediction program that will calculate polars and VMG speeds but it need IMS measurements which are far more involved than what's on a PHRF certificate. Anybody have an IMS certificate out there?
------Original Message------
From: Michael LaChance
To: C320-List
ReplyTo: C320-List
Sent: Jun 2, 2006 12:19
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
Thanks Orlando
Maybe a little more explanation is in order:
I'm looking VMG targets for optimum upwind and downwind sailing. Here's
an example for a Farr40:
http://www.farr40.org/boatinfo/farr40vpp.pdf
I understand if you supply US Sailing $250 and your boat/sail
measurements they can put a 'performance package' together that includes
similar charts, but I gotta think with over a 1,000 hulls out there
someone should have this info already.
Mike
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[mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 10:02 PM
To: Catalina 320 List
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Polar Charts
Michael,
You are correct....
cuba libre 2
--------------------------
Regards,
OD
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In everything I've read (see NorthU Trim, 6th Edition page 197 for
example) polars are based on TRUE wind.
Let me re-phrase the original question: Does anyone have a table that
shows for a given wind speed, what is the true and apparent wind angles
for optimum downwind and upwind VMG? (No, the polar does not contain
this information) Mike Seychelle, #141
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Message: 126
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 20:03:22 -0500
From: "Dave Sparks" <dlsparks at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] anchors
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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In April there was a discussion about anchors on the list. I gave an
endorsement for the Delta 35 based on my experience with it during Hurricane
Ivan. At that time, I did not have that much experience using it in
non-hurricane conditions. Now, I have more data. At this point in 2006 I
have spent 28 nights at anchor in locations along the northern Gulf coast
(Mobile Bay to Apalachicola Bay). The Delta 35 has set the first time each
time I anchored and (knock on wood) remained set in wind conditions ranging
from calm to 35 knots. I have 15 ft of 5/16 chain attached. Bottom
conditions were almost always "good" mud or sand. To be honest, I should add
that I have avoided two anchorages that I know have soft mud, locations
where I have had other anchors (Danforth, Fortress) drag. To summarize, I
am very pleased with the D35 as an everyday anchor.
David Sparks
En Passant - #933
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Message: 127
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2006 19:03:23 -0700
From: <crashley at gte.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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I think a layman's term for stringers would be "ribs", if that helps.
CRA
Rosebud #882
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
> Cy,
>
> Yep, we are neighbors. I visit Northpoint a couple times a year when we go
> out for a daysail and stop at the restaurant at Skipper Buds.
>
> When you lift the piece of cabin sole that covers the bilge, you're
> looking at the hull and the stringers. They are the transverse portion of
> the hollow floor timber grid that support the hull and the cabin sole.
>
> JeffC
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <cyrace at comcast.net>
> To: "C320-List" <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
>
>
>> Jeff, help me out. What are stringers? I believe you're in Waukegan
>> harbor, right? We're neighbors, I'm in North Point.
>>
>> Cy
>> Hull #948
>>
>> --
>> Cy Race
>> cyrace at comcast.net
>> 847/731-1172
>>
>> -------------- Original message --------------
>> From: "Jeff Church" <jjemail at comcast.net>
>>
>>> After chasing all the usual sources ('fringe drain, water tanks, air
>>> conditioner, various water heater sources, area under the galley
>>> drawers,
>>> packing gland, stern shower hose, emergency tiller access) I discovered
>>> that
>>> the stringers are hollow (sometimes they are filled with foam) and can
>>> hold
>>> a fair amount of water. Water that has accumulated in the bilge enters
>>> or
>>> leaves the ends of the stringers as the boat heels under sail. Water can
>>> also weep into or out of the stringers in the bilge area through small
>>> pin-holes where the stringer is tabbed to the hull. The solution was to
>>> drill a 1/4" hole through the top of the stringers and down through the
>>> foam, and manage to avoid drilling through the hull. Do this to the 2
>>> stringers on either side of the sump that contains the float switch.
>>> Then
>>> use an OilBoy pump to remove the water. Now I pump them out every spring
>>> after I finish commissioning the boat and the bilge stays bone dry.
>>>
>>> JeffC
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From:
>>> To: "C320-List"
>>> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:10 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
>>>
>>>
>>> I have another theory on this. I always had standing water in the three
>>> lowermost sections of the bilge (where the keel bolts are) which I
>>> attributed to the old style packing glad that I know was dripping a
>>> little
>>> fast but I didn't want to mess with the corroded nuts. Last week I put
>>> in a
>>> PYI dripless seal which stopped all water coming in thru at the prop
>>> shaft,
>>> then I pumped and dried out all three sections and they stayed that way
>>> for
>>> several days. After I came back from a rather exhilarating sail last
>>> weekend
>>> (went thru some high heeling angles) I noticed a little water in the
>>> first
>>> 2 foremost bilge sections. I thought "crap" but afterward I realized
>>> that
>>> maybe this was some standing water in the bilge line that goes all the
>>> way
>>> to the back of the boat and (I assume) must be still filled with water
>>> and
>>> maybe the boat movement and heeling caused it dump back into the bilge.
>>> I
>>> will test this theory at some point by emptying the bilge line.
>>>
>>> CRA
>>> Rosebud #882
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
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Message: 128
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:11:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Van Vessem <jvanvessem at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] mast
To: C320-List <C320-List at catalina320.com>
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Thanks Scott, for a very thorough explaination, it makes sense to me now.
Scott Thompson <sthompson at toad.net> wrote: First, steel wire does stretch. Read any good book on rigging design
and it will provide you with specs for how much. But it doesn't stretch
much, and when you tension the backstay the main effect on the forestay
is to remove sag, which can dramatically affect the shape of the genoa
by flattening it and moving the draft forward. You can see this by
sighting up the forestay while close hauled. The forestay sags quite a
bit, but the amount is adjustable with backstay tension.
Yes this also increases compression on the mast, which is already
significant when sailing upwind because of tension on the windward
shrouds. That's why 320s have that compression post in the middle of
the main cabin.
I'm fairly confident that the effect on genoa shape from adding backstay
tension is much more important than any effects on mainsail shape on a
320. You can bend a 320 mast, as others have pointed out, but not
nearly to the extent that you can with a true fractional rig and a keel
stepped mast.
John Van Vessem wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I never understood how you can move or bend the top of the mast since the head stay and back stay counter each other. To bend the mast you would have to stretch the head stay. Although there is a certain amount of stretch in steel cable, I think what you are really doing is pushing the mast down.
>
> John (Sojourn 645)
>
> Steve Magennis wrote:
> While that's true (the tapered top IS slightly lighter than an
> untapered top), the taper also allows us to SLIGHTLY bend (not rake)
> the top of the mast with a backstay adjuster (if the forward lowers are
> tight) and SLIGHTLY depower the main (the bend sucks a little cloth out
> of the belly of the main).
>
> I don't think either reason is significant.
>
> Steve
> Alchemist #909
>
> --- David Gleason wrote:
>
>> I
>> believe the reason the top of the mast istaperedd is to reduce the
>> weight aloft.
>>
>> Dave Gleason
>> Proud Mary, #150
>> On Mon, 22 May 2006 11:35:48 EDT JBrown5093 at aol.com writes:
>>> Thanks for the information. This list is always helpful. Jim Brown
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Message: 129
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Van Vessem <jvanvessem at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Water in Bilge and Keel Bolts
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Randy,
The first thing I would do is taste the water, is it salt or fresh. If it's fresh you know where to start looking. I get water in my bilge every time I fill up the fresh water tanks. Just a thought.
John(Sojourn645)
Charles Greenwell <CGreenwell at sparusa.com> wrote:
I have a 2000 model. For years I pride myself for always having a dry bilge. I went for a sail this weekend and upon returning noticed a lot of water in the bilge (about 8 inches). The bilge pump was no pumping it out. The pump would run but it was not pumping the water so, using a hose I shot water into the line to prime the pump and behold?. It was now working. I pumped all the water out and dried out the bilge.
The next day I looked in the bilge and it had about 3 inches of water in it, just shy of the point where the float would turn the pump on. I hit the manual switch pump switch and pumped it out and dried it out again. This time a made sure all of the sides flowing in to the bilge were also dry. I removed the sole plates forward and aft of the bilge and also ensured they were dry. This way I could find out where the water is coming from.
Today, I have more water in the bilge. I checked the forward and aft areas that feed it to see were it was coming from. They are both completely dry, from the speedo aft and the engine compartment forward.. I checked the sides of the bilge under the sole and they too were dry.
This means that the only way water could get into the bilge is from the keel. The boat was on the hard for the winter. This was the first time it had been out of the water for that long of a period. I saw no evidence of any cracks or other problems around the keel or bottom before it was launched. The bilge stayed dry for the 2 weeks it was in the water after launching.
Is it possible that the keel is leaking around the bolts? Do these bolts ever need to be tightened? Should I have checked them prior to launching the boat? Am I over looking another source of water?
Randy
Le Bijou ? Hull 719
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Message: 130
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2006 07:12:48 -0400
From: Dave <dbrabin at optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head valves-- OK leave open?
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I wonder if a loud bilge alarm would have helped, sooner? I know (from
uh, experience) it's tough to hear the bilge pump running when underway,
and/or on deck. I just installed a bilge alarm for that reason....
dave
"Wind Chill"
John Van Vessem wrote:
> Hi Richard,
>
> It is not the location of the thru hull fitting that matters it is the level of the other end of the pipe, in this case the toilet bowl. If the toilet bowl is above the water line there is no phisical way that water can over flow, valve or no valve. However, I have read a story where a boat owner had a party on board, if I remember corectly he had 25 or 30 people on board which drastically lowered the water line and unbeknownst the owner, water was flowing into the boat from the toilet bowl. The water was coming in pretty fast so the bildge pump could not keep up. The extra weight of the water coming in added to the raising of the water line (or the sinking of the boat.) Fortunately the owner discovered the problem before a disaster.
>
> I firmly believe that all thru hull fittings should be shut when not in use, but in actuallity, for me, it is just to impractical. I believe the risk water comming in from the galley sink, or the engine muffler, or the toilet bowl is low enough that i don't have to worry about it. I should also say, that I sail every week all year round, I do not leave my boat for extended periods, which I'm sure has a lot to do with my confidence. If I were to leave my boat for 4 or 5 weeks, I might also shut those valves. By the way I do exercise the valves 3 or 4 times a year.
>
> John (Sojourn 645)
>
> "Richard A. Walker" <dickwalker at att.net> wrote:
> John that is
> s bad advice. The thru-hull fitting is below the water line. The C-320
> manual and a placard on the boat has a warning to close the head thru-hull
> except when using it. The reason is that there is a small plastic flapper
> valve that has been know to break and that is all that is keeping you boat
> from sinking.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dick Walker
> C-320 (687) WindWalker II
> 740 Olive Ave.
> Coronado, CA 92118-2136
> 619.435.8986-----Original Message-----
> From: C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com
> [mailto:C320-List-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of John Van Vessem
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 6:11 AM
> To: C320-List
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Head valves-- OK leave open?
>
> Len,
>
> I leave the valves open, have not had a problem in the 5 years I've owned
> the boat. However I have found that if the bowl is empty when I leave, it
> will fill up when I return the next week. So what I do now is fill the
> bowl up with fresh water before leaving. I believe the top of the bowl is
> above the water line so water can not overflow past that. Unless of course
> you have other problems that would cause the water line to raise.
>
> John (Sojourn 645)
>
> belairlk at aim.com wrote:
> Catalina recommends closing the head seawater intake valve and head
> discharge to sea valves when leaving boat. Some owners say it's OK to just
> leave them open, as boat won't flood. Any comments or experience to indicate
> they should be closed?
>
> Len Krane
> Aqua5 #1070
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