[C320-list] Comments on older C320 "floors"
amshd2 at aol.com
amshd2 at aol.com
Wed Jan 3 20:07:22 PST 2007
Jon
This is the time of year to do it. If you can take it home to do the work it really makes the a lot easier. It was not hard it just took time.
The stuff really does work great. I took a section that only had 2 coats on to a High End lumber and wood working shop so I could order a piece of maple to match the sole. They could not believe how great it looked and wanted to know what I used. Oh yeah by the way some of the early models have a teak and maple sole.
Tony
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From: jonvez at comcast.net
To: c320-list at catalina320.com
Sent: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Comments on older C320 "floors"
Thanks for the info. Tony. I've been babying my sole in order to delay the
inevitable--but it sounds like this Ultimate Sole system is the way to go.....
Regards,
Jon
-------------- Original message --------------
From: amshd2 at aol.com
> Jon
>
> I have hull#30. I refinished the sole last winter. My table base came off with
> out any effort.
>
> I took the whole sole home and first stripped it using Dads stripper and a
> plastic scraper Dads is the best chemical stripper I have ever used stuff
worked
> great. This really helped to make the job go much faster and left a great
> surface to work with. I used the cleaner that comes from Ultimate Sole to
clean
> the sole before and after sanding. I also used wood bleach to get out most of
> the black stain around the screw holes. And yes be careful not to send to
hard.
>
> I used the Ultimate Sole product. It came out great easy to put on with little
> to no sanding between coats. The stuff also dry's fast. I could not believe
how
> great it came out. The stuff has a anti slip agent in it and it does work.
> The guys at Ultimate Sole were great to work with I called them a couple of
> times and got some great pointers.
>
> Now 2-3 people in my marina are going to use the stuff.
>
> I highly recommend the stuff.
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jonvez at comcast.net
> To: c320-list at catalina320.com
> Sent: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 7:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Comments on older C320 "floors"
>
>
> Thanks Bill...greatly appreciate it! Didn't know what was on the other side of
> those bolts....
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Bill Culbertson
>
> > Jon,
> >
> > Just remove the six largeish screws encircling the conical base of the table
> and
> > lift the whole thing out. I sent you 3 photos offline from when did this two
> > years ago. I took all the floor pieces home so that Kathy could refinish
them.
>
> >
> > -bill
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "jonvez at comcast.net"
> > To: C320-List
> > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 7:48:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Comments on older C320 "floors"
> >
> >
> > For those who have removed the base of the table, are there any tips or
> tricks?
> > I want to pull of my floor boards but have avoided this area as I haven't
been
>
> > able to determine the best way to get the base off...Thanks in advance...
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jon Vez
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Warren Updike"
> >
> > > In this context, I use the word "floor" to mean that area under the sole
> while
> > > the wood surface that is walked on is, well, the cabin sole. I learned
this
> > > somewhre, I forget where. Anyway, last winter I removed the entire sole to
> > > refinish it at home. This gave an excellent opportunity to check all the
> bilge
> > > spaces in the "floor."
> > >
> > > As our #62 is among the oldest C320s, I can't say when the floor/sole
design
>
> > > changed; but, change it did. I used the diagram obtained from the document
> on
> > > our website, and marked all the places where there is a drain from one
space
>
> > to
> > > another, and each of the rubber plugs in the stringers.
> > >
> > > For those who have the new floor/sole, On "Warr De Mar," after removing
the
> > > wood sole, there are a number of bilge spaces created by the stringers
that
> > run
> > > athwart-ship. Some are enclosed by fore-aft plates epoxied between the
> > > stringers. Some of these "bilges" or chambers have a tube or limber hole
to
> > > drain into the next bilge space. Some do not. The plugs in the stringers
are
>
> > > after-market mods to allow any water to be drained from within the
> stringers.
> > >
> > > The speedo on these olders hulls is directly under the 2-drawer cabinet in
> the
> > > V-berth. To remove it, I pull the cabinet to get close to reasonable
access
> to
> > > the speedo. Even so, it is so unwieldy working in this space that fully
one
> or
> > > two cups of water invariably enter the boat. So, before I undertake to
> remove
> > > the speedo, I first plug and tape the drain tube to the next bilge space
> then
> > > remove the accumulated water when I'm done. If any moves past the taped
> plug,
> > > it goes into the space under the sole in the V-berth and then into the
space
>
> > > immediately aft of the bulkhead. That space has no drain pipe. I find it
> > > necessary to pull that part of the sole to check.
> > >
> > > Under the table in the salon, behind the mast, there are two bilge spaces
> that
> > > have no drain and no plug in the stringer. Before I refinished the sole,
> there
> > > was water in there forever that contributed to the buildup of mildew under
> the
> > > sole. The mildew had migrated into the wood of the sole and runined the
> finish
> > > hence the refinishing of the sole. But, that's anothe story. Now, we check
> > > this space twice a year by pulling the table out with the base on and
> viewing
> > in
> > > the bilge space. This fall, we found about a cup of water between the two
> > space
> > > with no clue to it's source.
> > >
> > > Between the bilge space with the pump immediately fwd of the galley deck
on
> > > centerline, there is a plug in the fwd-aft place separating this space and
> the
> > > one to port that is between the galley space and the pump space. The way
> this
> > > hole was drilled through the fillets, it opened access to the space
between
> > the
> > > stringers. No matter how I try, I don't seem to be able to make this
> > > water-tight with the rubber plug. Next spring I plan to tape it with
outdoor
>
> > > duct tape. I intend to keep bilge water in the bilge. If anyone has a
> similar
> > > experience and can offer a better solution, I surely would appreciate
> hearing
> > > it.
> > >
> > > Now, if I can get a few consecutive days of stay-at-home weather, I'll
post
> my
> > > sole refinish story on the 320 website along with the Hurth Shop Manual
that
>
> > > covers all of the Hurth gears.
> > >
> > > Warren & Pattie Updike
> > > C320, #62, 1994, "Warr De Mar"
> > > Frog Mortar Creek, Middle River
> > > Chesapeake Bay
> >
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