[C320-list] Fw: packing gland & listing to port

Jerry Clayton jsea at prodigy.net
Mon Oct 22 14:37:09 PDT 2007 

Mike,

Before you take everything apart try putting in the transducer plug and 
putting the transducer with the wheel in a cup with enough white vinegar to 
completely cover the wheel.  Allow to set overnight and clean with a small 
brush.
This was suggested to me and worked fine on my ST60 transducer.
It's worth a try and best of all no disassembly is needed.

Regards,

Jerry
#988
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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port


> Kirk,?
>
> My spedo transducer got some growth on it a few months ago.? Now the wheel 
> no longer turns freely.? Do you or does anyone else know whether you can 
> knock out the pin and remove the wheel without ruining these parts or 
> worse yet ruining the whole transducer?? I have the ST50 instruments.
>
> Mike#171
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net>
> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 3:26 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port
>
>
> I usually apply slightly thinned out paint, and I'm sure to rotate it 
> after i paint it so I'm sure its ok. Once the paint dries I test it again. 
> Give it a good spin to be sure it spins freely. It has always worked after 
> splashing the boat.?
> ?
> Kirk?
> #124?
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Burti" <clburti at gmail.com>?
> To: "C320-List" <c320-list at catalina320.com>?
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 7:45 AM?
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port?
> ?
>> How do yo keep the paint from gumming up the paddlewheel??
>>?
>> On 10/20/07, Kirk McCullough <kirk.mccullough at telus.net> wrote:?
>>> I paint my speed transducer with bottom paint, and never pull it when 
>>> the?
>>> boat is in the water. I just clean it and paint it on the annual 
>>> haulout.?
>>> Before I started doing that I got barnacles in a month or so.?
>>>?
>>> Kirk?
>>> #124?
>>> -----Original Message-----?
>>> From: c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com?
>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Chris Burti?
>>> Sent: 20 October 2007 10:26?
>>> To: C320-List?
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port?
>>>?
>>> Won't work around here after being left in after just a few weeks.?
>>>?
>>> On 10/20/07, Robert Seastream <robert.seastream at comcast.net> wrote:?
>>> > "pull my speed transducer after?
>>> > each sail to avoid barnacles."?
>>> >?
>>> > Simple, clean it annually haulout! Spend more time sailing and less?
>>> > time dithering.?
>>> >?
>>> > Bob?
>>> > Intuition # 906?
>>> > On Oct 20, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Chris Burti wrote:?
>>> >?
>>> > > Yes... I really am considering adding ballast. It just kills me that 
>>> > >  >> > > I?
>>> > > can't point the same on both tacks. As we haven't loaded Commitment?
>>> > > down with junk, she shows a couple inches of bottom paint below the?
>>> > > design waterline and I can afford the weight if I stick it 
>>> > > midships.?
>>> > >?
>>> > > But, I am intrigued by Jeff's assertion that the mast is not 
>>> > > centered?
>>> > > if the shrouds are equal in length. Since most mastheads are?
>>> > > symmetrical this is how you plumb the mast after verifying that the?
>>> > > base is centered. Now, if the base of a deck stepped mast is not?
>>> > > centered (something you should check because, surprisingly, it >> > 
>>> > >  > appears?
>>> > > to occur often enough) then you do have to make an adjustment as 
>>> > > Jeff?
>>> > > suggested, I have measured the base and it is centered, I have >> > 
>>> > >  > plumbed?
>>> > > my mast in the traditional way and I still have a list. Now, if 
>>> > > there?
>>> > > is something funky about the masthead...inquiring minds want to 
>>> > > know.?
>>> > >?
>>> > > Oh, add me to the GFX packing group also...three years and loving 
>>> > > it.?
>>> > >?
>>> > > Got a couple of comments on the mechanical dripless seal 
>>> > > concept...I?
>>> > > know it is debating religion, but it is Saturday and I am obviously?
>>> > > not sailing. I am of the school that thinks it it imprudent to 
>>> > > trust?
>>> > > rubber for birth control or keeping your boat afloat. I already 
>>> > > have?
>>> > > some down there (intake hoses, shaft log, etc.) and don't care to 
>>> > > add?
>>> > > more.?
>>> > >?
>>> > > If the bellows fails, your boat will sink unless you can get your 
>>> > > rag?
>>> > > and bucket working fairly quickly. The assertion that there has 
>>> > > never?
>>> > > been a documented "catastrophic" failure may be true but, is also?
>>> > > unprovable BS. All that it means to me is that the owners got the >> 
>>> > >  > > leak?
>>> > > stopped in time or they haven't had one sink at the dock or where >> 
>>> > >  > > they?
>>> > > could recover the hull and blame it on a burst bellows.?
>>> > >?
>>> > > My belief is that the most likely time one of these things would 
>>> > > fail?
>>> > > is while the engine is in operation and shaft is turning. Given the?
>>> > > the high quality of the components, the most likely cause would 
>>> > > seem?
>>> > > be some improperly stored something tangling the shaft in heavy 
>>> > > seas?
>>> > > and damaging the bellows (of course from 'statistical' viewpoint 
>>> > > that?
>>> > > sinking wouldn't be 'caused' by the seal, it would be 'caused' by 
>>> > > the?
>>> > > skipper's 'negligence', heheheh).Too many boats go down taking 
>>> > > water?
>>> > > for "unknown reasons" off shore in just these conditions and the >> 
>>> > >  > > hulls?
>>> > > are never recovered. Some of those must have had dripless seals. It?
>>> > > used to be that a selling point was the fact the Coasites used >> > 
>>> > >  > them...?
>>> > > News Flash..they are now going to GFX as well.?
>>> > >?
>>> > > Note that these seals are a proven product and I doubt that if I?
>>> > > bought a boat with one installed that I would be very concerned 
>>> > > about?
>>> > > removing it, but I can't see me spending the money installing one?
>>> > > where $10 worth of GFX (in my case it was free...better yet) 
>>> > > provides?
>>> > > the same results and no concerns.?
>>> > >?
>>> > > I have a dry bilge generally but haven't figured out how to keep 
>>> > > from?
>>> > > adding about a quart of water when I pull my speed transducer after?
>>> > > each sail to avoid barnacles.?
>>> > >?
>>> > > On 10/19/07, Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com?
>>> > > <Orlando.Duran at averydennison.com> wrote:?
>>> > >> Please tell me you're kidding about putting in 300lbs of stainless?
>>> > >> steel to level out the boat!!?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >> A good place to store a 1-2gal gas container is in the anchor >> > 
>>> > >>  >> locker,?
>>> > >> it has an 'exhaust' hole..?
>>> > >> ----------------------------------?
>>> > >> Regards,?
>>> > >> OD?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >> ----- Original Message -----?
>>> > >> From: "Chris Burti" [clburti at gmail.com]?
>>> > >> Sent: 10/19/2007 12:54 PM?
>>> > >> To: C320-List <c320-list at catalina320.com>?
>>> > >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] packing gland & listing to port?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >> Yes...the [port list is 'normal'. On my "to do" list is scrounging?
>>> > >> about 300 pounds of stainless scrap to level it out.?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >> Don't leave the gasoline on the boat as a precaution. I only carry 
>>> > >>  >> > >> it?
>>> > >> aboard when I leave on a cruise intending to take the dinghy. Not 
>>> > >>  >> > >> only?
>>> > >> is it a bit safer, it is always fresh. I recommend the anchor >> > 
>>> > >>  >> locker,?
>>> > >> it is vented better top and bottom.?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >> On 10/19/07, Moondancer5 at comcast.net <Moondancer5 at comcast.net> >> > 
>>> > >>  >> wrote:?
>>> > >>> Hi all,?
>>> > >>>?
>>> > >>> Now that I've had the boat back for a bit, and the weather has 
>>> > >>> been?
>>> > >>> highly cooperative, I have a couple of questions on what's 
>>> > >>> normal.?
>>> > >>> Thanks in advance for all advice!?
>>> > >>>?
>>> > >>> Not having had a cruiser before, we did not realize the amount of?
>>> > >>> leaking from the packing gland was abnormal, until we were 
>>> > >>> splashed?
>>> > >>> this spring and the bilge pump wasn't working... after our marina?
>>> > >>> adjusted it, we had our little incident with the powerboat wake 
>>> > >>> and?
>>> > >>> the whole engine had to be reset on the mounts and the shaft?
>>> > >>> re-aligned, and at the dealer the bilge was dry. After the boat 
>>> > >>> was?
>>> > >>> delivered back to us there was quite a bit of water in the bilge?
>>> > >>> (and the auto pump hadn't been left on). Now we see that after >> 
>>> > >>>  > >>> every?
>>> > >>> afternoon of sailing, the shaft still drips after the engine has?
>>> > >>> been shut off. I don't imagine that adjusting the d**n thing 
>>> > >>> after?
>>> > >>> each sail is normal, I had heard it should do is shed a drop of?
>>> > >>> water every minute while the engine is running, and none after 
>>> > >>> it's?
>>> > >>> shut off. What's normal??
>>> > >>>?
>>> > >>> And, I notice (and noticed before the accident) a slight (but?
>>> > >>> distinct) list to port. Is THAT normal??
>>> > >>>?
>>> > >>> One more while I'm here: Where do you store your gasoline tank 
>>> > >>> for?
>>> > >>> the dinghy when it's not in use? When at our marina in the slip, 
>>> > >>> we?
>>> > >>> put the Zodiac on a rack and the outboard on the rail (which has?
>>> > >>> totally messed up the nice little slot there where we had the?
>>> > >>> Lifesling mounted, now it won't fit in there with the outboard on?
>>> > >>> the bracket). We are putting the gas tank in the starboard stern?
>>> > >>> locker, I believe the a/c compressor is in that area too. is that?
>>> > >>> safe??
>>> > >>>?
>>> > >>> Thanks!?
>>> > >>>?
>>> > >>> Susan?
>>> > >>>?
>>> > >>>?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >>?
>>> > >> --?
>>> > >> Chris Burti?
>>> > >> Farmville, NC?
>>> > >>?
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