[C320-list] 4 D Battery Replacement

Tue Apr 15 23:30:07 PDT 2008

For what it's worth, I replaced my flooded 4Ds with AGMs from WM last 
November. They were 5+ years old and one of them had lost a cell . It 
certainly wasn't the cheapest way to go, but I wanted to eliminate the 
maintenance (i.e., remember to add water periodically). I paralleled the two 
200 AHr 4Ds for the house battery (#1) and added an AGM group 27 (92 AHr) as 
a starting battery wired as battery #2. I'm going to install a Balmar 120 A 
alternator and a Xantrex Freedom 20 charger/inverter next. I already have 
the units but am procrastinating on installing them.

CRA
Rosebud #882

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David Nolte" <dcnolte at mac.com>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] 4 D Battery Replacement

> Tony,
>
> I just replaced my 4Ds. Our boats are of the same vintage, I'm hull #4.
>
> I've had my boat for 4 years and I know the batteries were already a 
> couple years old when I bought the boat. Sounds similar to your 
> situation.
>
> I could really tell last season on overnighters that they were  running 
> down faster than before. We did a load test and made the call.
>
> I got my new ones at Battery Warehouse. They were the identical  batteries 
> to the ones I replaced, and were EACH $40 cheaper than West  Marine's 
> price.
>
> See you at the regatta,
>
> David Nolte
> Beach House #4
>
>
> On Apr 15, 2008, at 8:41 AM, amshd2 at aol.com wrote:
>
>> I know this question has been on the site before. But what is the 
>> average life expectancy for a 4 D Battery.? I?know mine are at  least 5 
>> years old maybe closer to 6-7 the PO replaced them.??
>>
>> I am also looking for a? good source for?them other than West  Marine. I 
>> keep her?in Annapolis, MD.
>>
>> I have kept them filled with distilled water, charged up all year  round 
>> except for one season (on the hard) and I have a Freedom 20  (Xentrax 
>> charger).
>>
>> They seem to be in good shape now but I feel that I am living? borrowed 
>> time.
>>
>> I am also looking forward to meeting you all in Aug been on this  site 
>> for 5 years now and?it has been great.??Just wanted to?add I? hope OD 
>> does not wear that thong or what ever it is I am not sure  Annapolis is 
>> ready for that.........??
>>
>> Thanks ???
>>
>> Tony #30
>> ?????
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Orlando.Duran at AveryDennison.com
>> To: C320-List <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 9:29 pm
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>
>>
>>
>> Here you go:
>> gerard at catalinayachts.com
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> Regards,
>> OD
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Allan S. Field" [allan.field at comcast.net]
>> Sent: 04/14/2008 06:27 PM
>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>
>> Karl - Do you still have Gerry's e-mail re: keel bolt torque 
>> specifications?
>> When I bought a new computer in December, I lost what he sent to us.
>> Perhaps if you still have it you can post it here for Jeff. - Allan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of Jeff 
>> Church
>> Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:33 PM
>> To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>
>> Allan
>>
>> Gerry usually monitors these mail lists so if he disagreed with you I
>> suspect we'd have heard from him. I'm going to email him about  checking 
>> the
>> torque on my 387 as part of the initial commissioning, so I'll ask  about 
>> the
>> 320 again just to make sure.
>>
>> Jeff
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Allan S. Field
>>   To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>   Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 6:25 AM
>>   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>
>>
>>   Jeff - My source for the keel bolt torque setting is none other  than 
>> Gerry
>>   Douglas.  At the factory tour a few years ago, he misspoke when  he 
>> said
>>   something else.  Karl questioned him later and then I followed up  with
>> him,
>>   reminding him that he had said something else at the tour.  He 
>> clarified
>>   that he was speaking about a different boat.  One of our members  has 
>> used
>>   the 235 setting and while a challenge, was able to get it torqued  to 
>> 235.
>> -
>>   Allan
>>
>>   -----Original Message-----
>>   From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>   [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of  Jeff 
>> Church
>>   Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:54 PM
>>   To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>   Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>
>>   Allan,
>>
>>   Just off the top, I thought the proper torque was something like  105 
>> foot
>>   pounds. If that is the case, 235 pounds might tear the bolts  right out 
>> of
>>   the keel. You might want to check your source.
>>
>>   JeffC
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     From: Allan S. Field
>>     To: C320-List at Catalina320.com
>>     Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 7:26 PM
>>     Subject: Re: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>
>>
>>     Warren - The proper torque for the keel bolts is 235 foot  pounds. 
>> The
>>   boat
>>     must be out of the water with at least 70% of its weight  supported 
>> by
>> the
>>     keel.  The Association has the torque wrench, socket and  extension 
>> bars
>> as
>>     part of the loaner program.
>>
>>     Allan S. Field
>>     Sea Shadow - #808
>>     Columbia, MD
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>     [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of  Warren
>>   Updike
>>     Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:54 AM
>>     To: c320-list at lists.catalina320.com
>>     Subject: [C320-list] Keel Bolts Torque
>>
>>     What is the proper torque for the keel bolts?
>>     Thanks,
>>     Warren & Pattie Updike
>>     C320, #62, 1994, "Warr De Mar"
>>     Frog Mortar Creek, Middle River
>>     Chesapeake Bay
>>
>>
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