[C320-list] Gate Plate
Robert E. Sloat
resloat at comcast.net
Mon Sep 22 20:02:52 PDT 2008
Jack-I had some minor troubles with the slugs catching on the gate plate
when my 2002 was first commissioned. It has the Charleston mast. I ended
up bending and filing the gate plate just a little and have had no problems
the last 6 seasons. Take a look at where the slugs touch the plate going up
and down and adjust accordingly.
I clean the sail track and lubricate the slugs and track before spring
launch and once every month squirt a little Harken lube on the slugs. The
only trip to the mast is to attach the halyard. Hand raising to the top is
done in the cockpit and luff tension is done using the secondary winch.
Bob Sloat
Savannah 894
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack McDonough" <mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
> Irv:
>
> Thank you. The procedure you describe is exactly what I do now. (The gate
> plate does exist and is in place.) I'm just annoyed that the system
> doesn't work as it should -- that is, I should be able to raise the main
> without leaving the cockpit. When the water is choppy and the boat is
> rolling, I don't like the idea of wrestling with the sail while trying to
> maintain my balance.
>
> jack
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Irving Grunes" <igrunes at gmail.com>
> To: <C320-List at catalina320.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>
>
>> If you have crew, we find it much easier to have some one at the mast
>> raise
>> the sail, and someone in the cockpit take up the halyard slack. Then
>> winch
>> the last few inches of halyard. Sometimes its called "jumping" or
>> "Humping"
>> the halyard.
>> This presupposes that the gate plate Dennis describes is in place and
>> adjusted properly.
>>
>> Irv Grunes
>> 2001 Isle of Wight #851
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Dennis Harris
>> <dharris02 at embarqmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Jack,
>>>
>>> It sounds as if your "sail gate" is missing. On most boats with the
>>> Charleston Spar mast, the opening where you insert the sail slugs is
>>> covered
>>> by a small stainless steel plate, held in place with two thumb screws.
>>> With
>>> these in place, there is no way that the sail slugs can fall out. This
>>> part
>>> is on the starboard side of the mast. Once you get it adjusted, your
>>> sail
>>> slugs will slide past this point satisfactorily. I always head into the
>>> wind when hoisting the mainsail, and make sure that the boat is headed
>>> such
>>> that the boom and sail want to pull out to the port side just a little,
>>> so
>>> that there is no pressure against the opening and the "sail gate". This
>>> plus occasionally spraying the sail slugs (slides) with McLube "Sail
>>> Kote"
>>> should make raising the mainsail work well. The parts that you need are
>>> Charleston Spar sail gate #34201157009 and 2 tumb screws #28607604015.
>>> The
>>> above relates to the standard factory setup. You used the term "sail
>>> cars"
>>> which suggests that your boat might have been modified with a different
>>> sail
>>> slug/slide arrangement, and if so, then the above might not apply to
>>> your
>>> particular boat. Charleston Spar has a web site:
>>> www.charlestonspar.comThere phone number is 704 597 1502. I have a 2000
>>> model and have never had
>>> the problems that you described. Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> Dennis Harris
>>> C320 #694
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack McDonough" <
>>> mcdonough5 at verizon.net>
>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 10:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>
>>>
>>> We're in Tewksbury, Mass., but we sail out of the Jubilee Yacht Club in
>>>> Beverly Harbor. We bought a 2003 Catalina 320 new after having a Cape
>>>> Dory
>>>> 30 for a number of years. A fellow club member has a 2007 model that
>>>> has
>>>> many improvements over ours, including a different mast. We've had
>>>> nothing
>>>> but trouble trying to raise and lower our main. The sail cars either
>>>> jam in
>>>> the gate or fall out, negating the ability to raise the sail from the
>>>> cockpit.
>>>>
>>>> Jack McDonough
>>>> Sure Bet #947
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Seastream" <
>>>> robert.seastream at comcast.net>
>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 5:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We're on one of four moorings off Hilton Park (just downriver of the
>>>>> bridge over Dover Point) belonging to Great Bay Marine.
>>>>> That way we don't have to wait for low tide, which is the only time we
>>>>> can squeak under that bridge.
>>>>> The run out to Portsmouth Harbor takes about an hour or less. We
>>>>> still
>>>>> try going with a fair tide.
>>>>> You grew up in Dover? Where are you these days?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Seastream
>>>>> Intuition # 906
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 20, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Jack McDonough wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If you come down through Portsmouth Harbor, you must start in Great
>>>>> Bay
>>>>>> at Dover Point. (I grew up in Dover.) That's a long way in and out,
>>>>>> isn't
>>>>>> it? And Great Bay looks to have some swirly currents. And the
>>>>>> current under
>>>>>> those bridges in Portsmouth are swift, with a capital S.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Seastream" <
>>>>>> robert.seastream at comcast.net
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> To: <C320-List at Catalina320.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:12 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have about an hour run to get downriver and out of Portsmouth
>>>>>> harbor
>>>>>>> to offshore. We run at 2400 for fuel economy, 3000 if we have to
>>>>>>> hustle to
>>>>>>> make the bridge openings. 3200 is the continuous max rating for
>>>>>>> our Yanmar
>>>>>>> 3GM30F. Once or twice a year, I run WOT (3600 rpm; coincides with
>>>>>>> the one
>>>>>>> hour engine rating) for about 15 minutes. Never had 'smoke' issues,
>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>> our engine only has about 300 hours on it. Engine temps range from
>>>>>>> 160 to
>>>>>>> 180 degrees farenheit under those respective conditions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Seastream
>>>>>>> Intuition # 906
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 19, 2008, at 6:04 PM, Allan S. Field wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We make sure that every time we run the engine, we run at 3,000
>>>>>>> rpm
>>>>>>>> for at
>>>>>>>> least 5 minutes. 600 hours and no smoke although we intend to
>>>>>>>> pull
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> clean the elbow prophylactically this winter regardless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Allan S. Field
>>>>>>>> Sea Shadow - #808
>>>>>>>> Columbia, MD
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:c320-list-bounces at lists.catalina320.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> Crosby
>>>>>>>> Roper
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 5:42 PM
>>>>>>>> To: c320-list at catalina320.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [C320-list] exhaust mixing elbow
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thought I'd pass this along for general lesson learned file. In
>>>>>>>> july
>>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>>> way back from Catalina island to San Diego, I noticed that when I
>>>>>>>> ran
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> RPM's up to 3200, I got a bit of black/brown smoke from exhaust.
>>>>>>>> Since
>>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>>> tanks were full and there was a bunch of stuff on board, I figured
>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>> just overloading the engine was the problem. On my next trip to
>>>>>>>> catalina on
>>>>>>>> Labor day, I noted smoke at 3000 RPM. To make a long story short,
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> problem progressed rap[idly over the next 30 hrs of engine use to
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>> where even at 2000 RPM i was seeing smoke. We limped back to the
>>>>>>>> slip
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> called mechanic ( to whom I had spoken while in Catalina and who
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> advised
>>>>>>>> me that problem was likely a clogged exhaust mixing elbow and OK
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>> engine at low RPM as long as it was not producing smoke.) He came
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> Monday and problem was indeed exhaust mixing elbow. The engine is
>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>> years
>>>>>>>> old and has about 220 hrs on it. He admonished me for not using
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>> enough (in front of my wife, which should work out well for future
>>>>>>>> sailing
>>>>>>>> schedule) and for babying the engine. So, for anyone else who
>>>>>>>> tends
>>>>>>>> to baby
>>>>>>>> their diesel, run it frequently and run it hard. But we already
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> that!Crosby Roper, VMD
>>>>>>>> Tethys # 1054
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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